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[Bowser]

Hopefully Ziggler vs Bryan for the World Title is the plan after ER...

 

[McNei1y]

Ziggler vs Dbry?

shut up and take my money

 

[Kaladin]

 

[Perspicacity]

Couldn't the cameraman have pulled back a bit so that you could see D Bryan in the middle?

 

[somedevil]

WWE's roster, counting developmental, is actually excellent, one of the best in the world. That they can't get a SINGLE division/title on the card to be used competently, is a little embarrassing.

John Pollock says someone in WWE watches Impact wrestling and then tells them anything interesting. So someone should watch New Japan on how to book and then tell WWE creative how it works.

 

[Kaladin]

John Pollock says someone in WWE watches Impact wrestling and then tells them anything interesting. So someone should watch New Japan on how to book and then tell WWE creative how it works.

I pity the poor intern who has to watch Impact and type up those reports.

 

[jmdajr]

John Pollock says someone in WWE watches Impact wrestling and then tells them anything interesting. So someone should watch New Japan on how to book and then tell WWE creative how it works.

So the guy gets paid to be a mute.

 

[somedevil]

So they guy gets paid to be a mute.

Well the person watching got them to do those previous on Raw thing because Impact was doing that first. Also, TNA thought they stole the Claire Lynch story from them with the whole AJ and Cena storyline.

Also, pollock thought the Ryback promo was based on that Bull Ray explaining his aces and eights plan.

 

[jmdajr]

Well the person watching got them to do those previous on Raw thing because Impact was doing that first. Also, TNA thought they stole the Claire Lynch story from them with the whole AJ and Cena storyline.

Also, pollock thought the Ryback promo was based on that Bull Ray explaining his aces and eights plan.

Hmm. I was just being funny really, but all well taken. They sure are not taking any influence from the women's division. From casual viewing at least that was for one of the stronger points compared to WWE. (Like duh.)

 

[Plywood]

I pity the poor intern who has to watch Impact and type up those reports.

TNA Watcher: "The Knockouts did some things with their butts"
Vince: "Perhaps our diva's should do some things with their butts"

then:

 

[jmdajr]

Ryback

Watching the pain on Cena's face was worth standing back for. Funny the 2 things he says I lack his ex wife seems to love. #RybackRules

oh

 

[British Monsoon]

I just watched the International Space Station fly over my house. Science, fuck yeah!

Anyways, I also got a 'best of' set of Stan Hansen & Carlos Colon's feud in WWC - it's not all that great and seeing Hansen sell so big for the home-town hero Colon is a bit jarring, but the crowds are rabid and the matches are mindless, bloody fun. Here, have a video of Hansen attacking Colon backstage;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1erFuoO8OWg

 

[strobogo]

The balls on TNA office to say WWE rips off their angles. So many lolz to be had.

 

[KissVibes]

Why is Ryback slanted?

That promo is awesome. Ryback needs to take Ryder and teach him how to beat up Cena.

 

[somedevil]

Raw Viewership Ratings:

8pm: 4.19
9pm: 4.24
10pm: 4.03

Avg: 4.15

Back to normal. Also, wonder how much the boston attack affected people watching the show.

The balls on TNA office to say WWE rips off their angles. So many lolz to be had.

AJ Styles actually brought that up in a promo. Saying is isn't the only AJ having problems.

 

[Toki767]

The crowd started chanting boring during Cena's promo last night and Cena tried to blame that on Ryback? How is that just not sabotaging someone.

 

[jmdajr]

Raw Viewership Ratings:

8pm: 4.19
9pm: 4.24
10pm: 4.03

Avg: 4.15

Back to normal. Also, wonder how much the boston attack affected people watching the show.



AJ Styles actually brought that up in a promo. Saying is isn't the only AJ having problems.

I think that probably affected it a lot.

 

[funkystudent]

Reading about RAW and its amazing how much of a downer most of the show seems after the highs of last week.

I dont know why the bookers seem to hate Cesaro. He basically has everything Vince normally likes. He is tall and he can lift heavy things. He can also wrestle and he has a decent gimmick. Is it just another case of "lol indy star" from people backstage?

Also I hope Punk doesnt return as a face.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

oh shit

 

[UberTag]

Ziggler vs Dbry?

shut up and take my money

They'll need some way to keep the smarts invested in their product like bait on a hook.
This is certainly the best way to keep them saying "one more week then I'll turn it off" wash, rinse, repeat.

The crowd started chanting boring during Cena's promo last night and Cena tried to blame that on Ryback? How is that just not sabotaging someone.

Smart crowd needs to turn that back around on Cena by chanting "Cena's boring" or "Go away" or "We're not saying boo-urns, we're saying BOO CENA".

 

[Kaladin]

Is anyone else thinking of watching the Barbed Wire City iPPV screening this weekend?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=Smx783HFSaA

Barbed Wire City: The Unauthorized Story of Extreme Championship Wrestling and Highspots.com have partnered up to live stream the unique premiere screening event to the world on Saturday April 20th via Internet Pay-Per-View.

“There’s nothing like being there live in person for this, but we realized not everyone can get to Philadelphia on April 20th,” John Philapavage, co-director of the documentary, commented. “I have friends and family who live all over the place—there are fans all over the world who told me they wish they could be there live—and now they’ll be able to share this night with us in real time. Highspots provides a great service. We liked the reliability of their live streams, and I like that they continue to support documentaries about pro wrestling. I’m proud to be working with them.”

Highspots and BWC plan pre and post-screening coverage for the broadcast. The documentary airs LIVE at 7pm, at the same time the audience is viewing it in South Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (tickets still available at barbedwirecity.com store). At roughly 9pm the feed will switch back to the Asylum Arena (Formerly the ECW Arena) for the live Question and Answer session. For more information on ordering the live iPPV and DVD, visit Highspots.com.

Barbed Wire City is an unauthorized documentary film studying the subculture and story of defunct pro wrestling promotion Extreme Championship Wrestling. The promotion rose to prominence from humble beginnings in 1992, had a massive effect on the wrestling boom of the late 90s, and went bankrupt in early 2001.

Highspots.com is an official retailer of Barbed Wire City.

http://highspots.tv/ippv-barbed-wire-city-premiere-04-20-2013/

$20. You can also get it on DVD at the same price, but I usually just watch it once anyway. Might as well get the iPPV with the bonus Q&A at the end.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

$20 for that? Hmm, I dunno. I'm interested but I'm not sure I'm $20 interested.

 

[Alucard]

Guy with the "Raw is Generico" sign got kicked out of his seat last night:

WWE Raw TV taping report
April 15, 2013
Greenville, S.C.

Report by Michael, PWTorch reader


I'm from Australia and attended last night's Raw with my English friend, Dan. I had a "Raw is Generico" sign, which you may have noticed. A lot of people on Twitter loved it, but not WWE. Here's what happened:

Thank you, WWE, for ending my USA trip on such a low note. Last night was the final night of my trip and Dan and I were ending it with a bang. We had third row seats directly opposite the camera, ideal for a couple of guys who love a bit of TV time.

At one point in the night Dan had a couple of his signs confiscated. The explanation was vague, but I assumed it was because he was holding them up too regularly.

We moved on, until WWE decided to flex their muscles. I was watching the Dolph Ziggler vs. Jack Swagger match and before I knew it Dan was being escorted by security. I was dumbfounded, because from what I can recall the most serious crime he might’ve committed at the time was holding up a sign promoting his Twitter handle, which includes the acronym “ROH."

Fans around me were telling me, “Your buddy’s been taken over there near the National Guard people." All I could say was “Why?!” No one had an answer. I could see him begging security for answers.

A segment or two later and it’s time for C.M. Punk’s promo. This was when I was going to hold up the only sign I brought with me – the one which said “Raw is Generico." I held it up 2-3 times within the space of a couple of minutes, and all of a sudden I’ve got a security guard next to me saying “come with me.”

I said, “Why?”

All he said was, “Just do it.”

So, I picked up my stuff and did the walk of shame, being escorted past everyone from the TV-side to the non-TV side. While walking I pleaded for an explanation of what I had done wrong, but the security guard wasn’t saying a word.

I said, “Are you going to speak?”

He replied, “It’s the show. The show doesn’t want you there.”

They took me to an empty seat in a level 100 section of the non-TV side, even though I’d paid over face value for a floor seat directly opposite the camera. I said something like: "Before I sit down, is someone going to tell me what I did wrong?"

One of the security guards said, "It was your sign."

I asked why they couldn't just confiscate it and let me stay in my seat, but he wasn't able to give me an answer. When I got to my seat I had a different security guard tell me: "You're out. They want you out of the building," until he was corrected by one of his colleagues.

There was about half-an-hour remaining in the show and I barely remember a second of it. I basically just sat there staring blankly into the distance or at the big screen waiting for the show to end.

I spent thousands of dollars on this trip, with much of it going into WWE's coffers. I now have no motivation whatsoever to pour another cent into a company that would treat me that way. It was humiliating. It saddens me that I am highly unlikely to be in New Orleans next near - not because I'll miss WrestleMania, but because I'll miss everything else about that weekend, including the people I've been fortunate enough to meet.

New Orleans was meant to be the next opportunity to catch up with these people and others, but I can't see how I can possibly support WWE after last night. We're now planning to organize our own wrestling trip outside of WrestleMania week where we'll try to fit in ROH and TNA.

People mock me for my passion for TNA, but at least I know they won't treat me like I was treated at last night's Raw. My trip started with TNA Lockdown, and I felt like such a part of that whole weekend. It was the highest of highs, but, sadly, my trip has now ended with the lowest of lows. For that, I once again say thank you, WWE.

Stuff like this just doesn't make sense to me. Why not just tell the guy to drop the sign and let him keep his seat?

 

[Kaladin]

$20 for that? Hmm, I dunno. I'm interested but I'm not sure I'm $20 interested.

Here is the info on the film, which I meant to find.

Own the new independent documentary film "BARBED WIRE CITY... THE UNAUTHORIZED ECW DOCUMENTARY". Please note: This DVD is not supported, nor owned by the W.W.E.

"Barbed Wire City... The Unauthorized ECW Documentary" is a film that studies the history of, and people who made, Extreme Championship Wrestling a cult sensation in the 1990s. We took an intimate look at the subculture of a subculture, and found a very human story about athletes who see themselves as entertainers, and were willing to take massive amounts of punishment for little money based on the promise of something more within their industry. This is a film about culture and human beings—who just happen to use tables and chairs and violent acts as part of their performance art. This documentary is not owned or supported by the WWE.

What Is The Documentary About: We like to call this the study of a subculture’s subculture. Pro Wrestling is a world that is an odd island to most people. In the 1990s, Extreme Championship Wrestling was the bizarre underground of that subculture. We wanted to bring the fascinating behind-the-scenes story of this promotion to the mainstream, its ups and its downs, from its beginning in the early 90s all the way into 2012. We’ve shot 50 hours of footage and conducted over 60 interviews to give context and accuracy to this oral history. This has been a labor of love, as the project began when both filmmakers were 19, in March of 2000.

Philapavage was a wrestling fan growing up, particularly captivated by Extreme Championship Wrestling as a teen. Kiernan, never a fan, brought a fresh perspective to the project. Much of the film was shot in 2001, before the film was put on hold the first time in 2002. Several times production of the film was resumed, but it was never completed, due to lack of funding. In January of this year the project was resurrected again with new eyes. 15 additional hours were shot, including three days at Extreme Reunion, a wrestling show in Philadelphia, where ECW alumni came together to reunite in front of roughly 2000 fans.

This film aims to take an honest, critical look at the history, legacy, and impact of ECW on the professional wrestling industry, as well as tell the stories of the men and women who helped build this small mom and pop promotion into a national force. We examine the violence and bloodshed, marketing and fan involvement, as well as the decisions of those in charge, through the company’s triumphs, glory years, controversies, and demise.

It also seeks to shed light on a group of people that came together with the goal of turning their industry on its head. The sacrifices they made trying to achieve it were often physically brutal, as they were chasing the dream of trying to create something innovative in professional wrestling. They succeeded by playing an often unheralded role in the creation of the cultural phenomenon that was the wrestling boom of the late 90’s, but failed to fully realize their dream of getting to the top of that swell of popular acceptance that they helped create. We want to tell their story.

Who Is In Our Film: We conducted over 60 different interviews, some with the same subjects twice, over a decade apart. Our approach to telling the story of Extreme Championship Wrestling and giving you proper context has been holistic in nature. We’ve interviewed journalists, wrestlers, referees, ring announcers, security staff, company staff and production, all the way to fans and fan organizers.

The wrestlers range from mainstays like Sandman, Raven, Shane Douglas, Balls Mahoney, Axl Rotten, New Jack, Mikey Whipwreck, The Blue Meanie, Stevie Richards, Nova, Ted Petty, and Johnny Grunge, to wrestlers from later years like Jerry Lynn, Angel and Devito of Da Baldies, Chris Chetti and Danny Doring, and Steve Corino.

We spoke with personalities like Joel Gertner, Sign Guy Dudley (Lou E.), and referee John Finagan. We interviewed the founder of Extreme Championship Wrestling, Tod Gordon, as well as early staff like Larry Winters, Bob Artese, Ed Zohn, Kathy Fitzpatrick, and longtime office workers like Gabe Sapolsky and Damien Farren, as well as later Extreme Championship Wrestling staffers like Dan Kowal. We also sat down with TV production man, Charlie Bruzzese. We sought out involved fans, like ECW Arena front row fan, John “Straw Hat Guy” Baily, and supporter/fan organizer, Tony Lewis. We have the head of Atlas Security, Ronnie Lang, as well as one of his trusted lieutenants, Joe Wilchak.

Finally, we have a wide array of context and analysis, as well as diverse opinions, from the journalists who covered Extreme Championship Wresting. Dave Meltzer from the Wrestling Observer, Wade Keller and Bruce Mitchell from the Pro Wrestling Torch, Jason Powell of Prowrestling.Net, as well as wrestling photographer and historian, Bill Apter. Rounding out this list are Mike Johnson and Dave Scherer of PWInsider.com, who have the unique distinction of being early fans who became journalists, and also worked for the companies official website. We also spoke with Michael “Mad Dog” Tearson (a local Philadelphia journalist), Rob Feinstein of RF (ECW’s video tape partner), and Frank Talent of the Pennsylvania State Athletic Commission.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Guy with the "Raw is Generico" sign got kicked out of his seat last night:



Stuff like this just doesn't make sense to me. Why not just tell the guy to drop the sign and let him keep his seat?

Why do wrestling fans always turn a simple story into a 5,000 word essay?

 

[strobogo]

Considering TNA has spent the past 11 years doing nothing but do knock off WCW/ECW/WWE angles, often with the same wrestlers who were involved with the original angles, they shouldn't be allowed to complain even if WWE renamed Smackdown to Impactful Wrestling.

Right now, they're ripping off their own angles. A8 is a pretty direct redo of Immortal, which itself was another nWo rip off (and also featured the actual nWo doing a trademark friendly nWo reunion at the same time). Taryn Terell going from the KO ref to wrestler just like Traci Brooks (and Jaqueline in WWE). Jeff Hardy's redemption which was his story in his first TNA run, his second WWE run, and TWICE in this latest TNA run. Or CM Punk bitching about not getting any respect as champion and then suddenly, A Double turns heel because he's not getting any respect as champion. Robbie E coming 2 years after Zack Ryder. Everything about Abyss being such a rip off of Kane/Mankind for the first 3-4 years.

TNA is the KING of knock offs. They can't get mad at anyone ripping anything off from them. The only kind of original thing they've done in years is Abyss/Joe Park stuff.





The fuck, ANOTHER ECW documentary?

 

[Toki767]

Why do wrestling fans always turn a simple story into a 5,000 word essay?

They have to overcompensate for WWE turning long storylines into 1 month stories.

Sucks for the guy though.

 

[UberTag]

Stuff like this just doesn't make sense to me. Why not just tell the guy to drop the sign and let him keep his seat?

They didn't want what that fan represented in the arena.
They don't want fans of ROH or Generico or fans that appreciate the indies or anything that happens outside of the WWE Universe.
If they did, they would have just taken his sign.
But instead Security replied, “It’s the show. The show doesn’t want you there.”

The WWE doesn't want WrassleGAF there, either... you guys know that, right?
They would have sent that entire New Jersey crowd packing from the stands if they weren't outnumbered.
So they turned it around and pretended they appreciated the fans shitting on their product and then were totally clueless when "sanctioned" Fandangoing wasn't responded to well.

 

[Alucard]

They didn't want what that fan represented in the arena.
They don't want fans of ROH or Generico or fans that appreciate the indies or anything that happens outside of the WWE Universe.
If they did, they would have just taken his sign.
But instead Security replied, “It’s the show. The show doesn’t want you there.”

The WWE doesn't want WrassleGAF there, either... you guys know that, right?
They would have sent that entire New Jersey crowd packing from the stands if they weren't outnumbered.
So they turned it around and pretended they appreciated the fans shitting on their product and then were totally clueless when "sanctioned" Fandangoing wasn't responded to well.

If only they just did shows in proper wrestling markets. The fans would force them to change. Crowds like the mild one last night just let the WWE believe they can keep churning out garbage and people will lap it up with minimal pushback.

 

[Kaladin]

We've all heard of them taking signs, but I don't know if I've ever heard of them moving someone from their seat before.

And especially not being removed from the arena for that.

 

[Cagey]

oh shit

It's a god damn shame they needed to have Ryback and Henry feud, rather than having them tag team try and demolish Cena, given where they went with Ryback the night after.

Think of all the odds just aching to be overcome.

 

[dream]

Stuff like this just doesn't make sense to me. Why not just tell the guy to drop the sign and let him keep his seat?

They probably did. I suspect Michael From Australia Who Spent Thousands of Dollars On His Trip is probably lying.

When your buddy has "a couple of signs confiscated," he isn't just a nuisance--he's a disruption. I bet Michael From Australia Who Has Passion for TNA Because They Made Him Feel Like a Part of Lockdown Weekend had more than just that one sign and was every bit as disruptive as his friend was.

 

[UberTag]

If only they just did shows in proper wrestling markets. The fans would force them to change. Crowds like the mild one last night just let the WWE believe they can keep churning out garbage and people will lap it up with minimal pushback.

That's why Vince stays out of proper wrestling markets as much as he humanly can.
He would book every TV taping in Greenville, South Carolina (Population = 61,674) if he had his way.

When your buddy has "a couple of signs confiscated," he isn't just a nuisance--he's a disruption. I bet Michael From Australia Who Has Passion for TNA Because They Made Him Feel Like a Part of Lockdown Weekend had more than just that one sign and was every bit as disruptive as his friend was.

You're probably right. I'm just latching onto something that is clearly a one-sided recounting of events to suit my agenda. Still fun, though.

It's a god damn shame they needed to have Ryback and Henry feud, rather than having them tag team try and demolish Cena, given where they went with Ryback the night after.

Think of all the odds just aching to be overcome.

Cena would find a way to "Attitude Adjust" Ryback and Mark Henry simultaneously.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Aiii, how can you get excited for a WWE event?

After the way she got pinned yesterday, I'm looking forward to her next match....

 

[British Monsoon]

2CW are running their very first iPPV this Saturday at 8PM Eastern and are giving it away for FREE!

http://livesportsvideo.com/golive/goliveevents.asp?q=SquaredCircleWrestling

. Kevin Steen (c) vs John Morrison - 2CW Heavyweight Championship
. Matt Hardy vs Sami Callihan
. Isys Ephex vs 'Juggernaut' Jason Axe - Stairway to Hell Match
. Spike Dudley vs MASADA - No Holds Barred
. Colt 'Boom Boom' Cabana vs 'Slyck' Wagner Brown
. Colin Delaney & Rachel Summerlyn vs Pepper Parks & Cherry Bomb
. Plus more, including Terry Funk responding to Kevin Steen's challenge.

Card looks a bit random, but I won't turn down a free wrestling show.

 

[Alucard]

They probably did. I suspect Michael From Australia Who Spent Thousands of Dollars On His Trip is probably lying.

When your buddy has "a couple of signs confiscated," he isn't just a nuisance--he's a disruption. I bet Michael From Australia Who Has Passion for TNA Because They Made Him Feel Like a Part of Lockdown Weekend had more than just that one sign and was every bit as disruptive as his friend was.

Point taken. I questioned the validity of his story too. Still, I doubt casual fans actually pay attention to signs and wonder "who is this Generico guy? I should find out asap and abandon WWE forever!" If anything, they'd see he's IN WWE at present. Or they might just think it's a play on Raw is Jericho and that the fan is calling Raw boring. Still...don't like it. Let the fans bring whatever signs they want as long as they're not hateful.

 

[strobogo]

Idk, I saw security guards screaming at kids behind Cole and King who weren't even doing anything. There were just standing up. Not being distracting or even having signs. Just standing up when King and Cole were on camera. It was weird. It happened all night long. I also saw security yelling at and grabbing people in the front rows for being too animated, and people along the ramp for trying to slap hands with guys. Someone getting tossed out for a sign wouldn't surprise me when they have security guards screaming at kids for being excited to be on TV at a wrestling show.


That being said, during the live segment where Justin Roberts does commentary on signs being shown on screen, they zoomed in on a TNA sign with a hand drawn TNA Championship with the major TNA stars written all over it.

 

[Kaladin]

2CW are running their very first iPPV this Saturday at 8PM Eastern and are giving it away for FREE!

http://livesportsvideo.com/golive/goliveevents.asp?q=SquaredCircleWrestling

. Kevin Steen (c) vs John Morrison - 2CW Heavyweight Championship
. Matt Hardy vs Sami Callihan
. Isys Ephex vs 'Juggernaut' Jason Axe - Stairway to Hell Match
. Spike Dudley vs MASADA - No Holds Barred
. Colt 'Boom Boom' Cabana vs 'Slyck' Wagner Brown
. Colin Delaney & Rachel Summerlyn vs Pepper Parks & Cherry Bomb
. Plus more, including Terry Funk responding to Kevin Steen's challenge.

Card looks a bit random, but I won't turn down a free wrestling show.

That actually looks interesting.

 

[dream]

I would probably be more inclined to believe Michael From Australia Who Sat There Staring Blankly Into The Distance Waiting For The Show To End if he didn't admit that he and his buddy craved TV time. As it is, I picture two Beavis and Butthead-looking jackasses sitting there, going "heh heh heh we're promoting Ring of Honor on Monday Night Raw Supershow. We're just like CM Punk. Pipebomb!!"

 

[FallingEdge]

oh shit

damn.

 

[Alucard]

Yeah...is Ryback actually dating Cena's ex, or is this all kayfabe angle stuff? If it's an angle, Ryback's using social media correctly to get it over.

 

[mechashiva]

Idk, I saw security guards screaming at kids behind Cole and King who weren't even doing anything. There were just standing up. Not being distracting or even having signs. Just standing up when King and Cole were on camera. It was weird. It happened all night long. I also saw security yelling at and grabbing people in the front rows for being too animated, and people along the ramp for trying to slap hands with guys. Someone getting tossed out for a sign wouldn't surprise me when they have security guards screaming at kids for being excited to be on TV at a wrestling show.


That being said, during the live segment where Justin Roberts does commentary on signs being shown on screen, they zoomed in on a TNA sign with a hand drawn TNA Championship with the major TNA stars written all over it.

This. I had a couple experiences like that. I was yelling during a promo and told to sit down and be quiet. Security said production told them to tell me that.

They try to control it all too damn much.

 

[slightconfuse]

IRS collecting PTPs millions of dollars is amazing.

These guys deserve a push

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=m-ch-fea&v=FYHIUVELLUg

 

[somedevil]

Punks first two tweets since losing his smile is one of Colt telling fans not to buy the ROH dvd of him they are putting out and one telling his fans to buy the new live by the code and Paramore cd.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Punks first two tweets since losing his smile is one of Colt telling fans not to buy the ROH dvd of him they are putting out and one telling his fans to buy the new live by the code and Paramore cd.

 

[British Monsoon]

I really don't get Colt's butt-hurt reactions to the ROH DVD - it's their footage, they can do what they want with it. If he'd taken the contract Sinclair offered him (which, presumably, was for less than a top star of the company would make and why he turned it down) he'd most likely be getting royalties on this set like other contracted ROH talent, but he isn't. When ROH was finished with Colt (because he wouldn't sign a contract), Cornette had the book and the line Colt was given of "funny don't equal money" sounds like a proper Cornette-ism if I've ever heard one. The guys in the Sinclair office might very well agree with that assessment, but with Delirious now in charge of the booking you'd think that, if the DVD set sold well, they might be convinced to bring him back. But perhaps he doesn't want to come back and, presumably, if he did, he wouldn't want it to be in the role he had previously.

One thing I think the ROH DVD does expose is how largely forgettable Colt's ROH work was - I never saw him as a classic match sort of guy. He was a comedy character first and foremost, one you could root for and who drew good reactions from the crowd, but not necessarily one you wanted to see pushed at the top of the roster. His best ROH stuff isn't even on the set, because it's the Second City Saint tag matches with CM Punk and some of the matches in his second run when he returned from WWE. The fact that the set stops after the disappointing Homicide feud leaves out a lot of good matches against the likes of Jimmy Jacobs & Doug Williams, too, while Cabana's early ROH work wasn't much to write home about.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

oh shit

hahahaaa

 

[Kaladin]

One thing I think the ROH DVD does expose is how largely forgettable Colt's ROH work was - I never saw him as a classic match sort of guy. He was a comedy character first and foremost, one you could root for and who drew good reactions from the crowd, but not necessarily one you wanted to see pushed at the top of the roster. His best ROH stuff isn't even on the set, because it's the Second City Saint tag matches with CM Punk and some of the matches in his second run when he returned from WWE. The fact that the set stops after the disappointing Homicide feud leaves out a lot of good matches against the likes of Jimmy Jacobs & Doug Williams, too, while Cabana's early ROH work wasn't much to write home about.

That Homicide match the set ends with is part of what sold me on Ring of Honor since that was the first event I watched from the promotion. It reminded me of something from ECW that it seemed like TNA and WWE were lacking at the time.

That match and the Dragon vs Storm match sold me.

 

[FallingEdge]

I really don't get Colt's butt-hurt reactions to the ROH DVD - it's their footage, they can do what they want with it. If he'd taken the contract Sinclair offered him (which, presumably, was for less than a top star of the company would make and why he turned it down) he'd most likely be getting royalties on this set like other contracted ROH talent, but he isn't. When ROH was finished with Colt (because he wouldn't sign a contract), Cornette had the book and the line Colt was given of "funny don't equal money" sounds like a proper Cornette-ism if I've ever heard one. The guys in the Sinclair office might very well agree with that assessment, but with Delirious now in charge of the booking you'd think that, if the DVD set sold well, they might be convinced to bring him back. But perhaps he doesn't want to come back and, presumably, if he did, he wouldn't want it to be in the role he had previously.

One thing I think the ROH DVD does expose is how largely forgettable Colt's ROH work was - I never saw him as a classic match sort of guy. He was a comedy character first and foremost, one you could root for and who drew good reactions from the crowd, but not necessarily one you wanted to see pushed at the top of the roster. His best ROH stuff isn't even on the set, because it's the Second City Saint tag matches with CM Punk and some of the matches in his second run when he returned from WWE. The fact that the set stops after the disappointing Homicide feud leaves out a lot of good matches against the likes of Jimmy Jacobs & Doug Williams, too, while Cabana's early ROH work wasn't much to write home about.

What I remember of Cabana in ROH is the Homicide feud and the Jacobs feud w/Lacey. Other than that, he was booked as a comedy wrestler and I really never saw him as anything more.

 

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I remember Colt for being in the most bloody matches in ROH somehow. Seriously, if you make a top 10, he's in their 4 times somehow or at least there the most with Whitmer.

But more importantly, I remember Colt for being one of the nicest persons at any indy show. Dude is so nice.