Mr. Luchador
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Raven had the US Title?!
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FallingEdge
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I would love to just to go wrestling school to just go to it. I'm sure it would be a pain in the ass but fun at the same time.
Mr. Enigma
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Poor RavenHe had a few decent months in TNA from what I remember, I think it was around the time Cornette came in. Then he became terrible.
Raven realized he made his money and didn't have to do anything anymore. I did a show with him a few months ago and he didn't do anything in the tag match he was booked in. He stood on the apron the entire match until the hot tag and immediately DDT'd one of the heels for the win. Also, this was a family show and everyone was instructed not to use bad language. So naturally, Raven grabs the mic and tries to start a "Pussy" chant against the heels. He also hit on my girlfriend and pretended like he cared about the book she was reading.
Heh.
Transitional champ between DDP and Goldberg.
Mr. Enigma
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For 24 hours. He beat DDP for it at Spring Stampede '98 and Goldberg steamrolled him to win it on Nitro the next night.
British Monsoon
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Punk out till Summerslam or beyond?
"WWE has removed CM Punk from all of their event listings through Summerslam. As we've noted in the Elite section of PWInsider.com, creative sources indicated there was no clear plan as to when and how Punk would return to WWE storylines."
A lot of it was to do with the time period - he had a cool gimmick, sported a popular counter-culture look, was generally a much more edgy character in the right place at the right time, etc. It also helped that he could, as I said, structure his matches so even a brawl with an inebriated Sandman wasn't half bad, plus, his promo style was pretty unique. Although, I thought he owed a lot to Terry Funk in that regard. Everyone always remembers Terry ranting and raving, not the calm, soft-voiced, yet slightly menacing Terry that, imo, Raven took some of his cues from.
"WWE has removed CM Punk from all of their event listings through Summerslam. As we've noted in the Elite section of PWInsider.com, creative sources indicated there was no clear plan as to when and how Punk would return to WWE storylines."
Mr. Luchador said:
A lot of it was to do with the time period - he had a cool gimmick, sported a popular counter-culture look, was generally a much more edgy character in the right place at the right time, etc. It also helped that he could, as I said, structure his matches so even a brawl with an inebriated Sandman wasn't half bad, plus, his promo style was pretty unique. Although, I thought he owed a lot to Terry Funk in that regard. Everyone always remembers Terry ranting and raving, not the calm, soft-voiced, yet slightly menacing Terry that, imo, Raven took some of his cues from.
sf2fanatic
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Contract issues?
Mr. Luchador
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Man, I don't even remember that. I wonder if Raven does.
Aye, he did look cool.
slightconfuse
Banned
More UFC events and red carpets for punk!!!
Raven TALKS like he's a wrestling mastermind. When you hear his shoots, he understands and explains how things work so well. But he doesn't do any of that when he wrestles (even in his prime). Johnny Polo and WCW Raven were the best Ravens. I don't really think any of his ECW holds up now. The first year and a half of WCW stuff does. His WWF run was useless. The first year or so of his TNA run was good. ROH stuff holds up about as well as the ECW stuff, which makes sense since it was trying to be a rehash anyway.
Looking back, ALL of Raven is just annoying, pseudo intellectual, whiny bullshit that doesn't even make sense. Johnny Polo was at least supposed to be an annoying, whiny asshole. Raven was supposed to be this cool, emotionally deep and dark character. No, he was just as whiny and bitchy as Johnny Polo, except without the self awareness.
Looking back, ALL of Raven is just annoying, pseudo intellectual, whiny bullshit that doesn't even make sense. Johnny Polo was at least supposed to be an annoying, whiny asshole. Raven was supposed to be this cool, emotionally deep and dark character. No, he was just as whiny and bitchy as Johnny Polo, except without the self awareness.
Mr. Enigma
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This is exactly correct. At the show I mentioned earlier, he spent a countless amount of time talking to guys about their matches and how to make their work better. He is incredibly knowledgeable. But when he went out to do his match, he literally did one move in a tag match and that was it.
Mr. Luchador
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I liked Raven being exposed as a rich mommy's boy in WCW!
British Monsoon
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So, who's been the more worthless over the past 5 years?
Raven or RVD?
Yes! Great example, love that promo, wish we saw more stuff like it, although crazy, heel-mode Terry was a ton of fun, too;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOHt4JEBaY
Raven or RVD?
tm24 said:
Yes! Great example, love that promo, wish we saw more stuff like it, although crazy, heel-mode Terry was a ton of fun, too;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOHt4JEBaY
Mr. Luchador
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I guess Raven - as I can't really recall what he's done over the last 5 years. At least RVD had that good run in WWE with Sabu oh wait no, that was 2006...
Well, the last good thing I can think of that Raven did was the Dog Collar match and feuds with CM Punk, but that was over five years ago.
When I think about RVD, I think about how Abyss killed RVD with Janice and that's all I remember of him in the past five years.
However, when RVD wrestled in TNA, he always had the same match and went over himself more than he put other wrestlers over.
It's a hard choice.
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Deleted member 47027
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Grew some balls, asked for a raise, got it. Sort of. Feelin good.
Basically said "I would really like to make more money, and I want to know if I'm on the right track to make more money" and got nothing but positive things. Fuckkkk yes.
Basically said "I would really like to make more money, and I want to know if I'm on the right track to make more money" and got nothing but positive things. Fuckkkk yes.
Mr. Luchador
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Did you flex your pecs at all?
Good for you Sun! I'm very fortunate in that my boss always comes to me with raises, in six years I have yet to ask for one myself and I make roughly 500 euro p/m more than average in my field for my age.
It would suck to have to go "begging" for it, too much stress involved.
It would suck to have to go "begging" for it, too much stress involved.
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Deleted member 47027
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Professor Beef
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You've made the Cenation proud with your #hustle today.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
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Deleted member 47027
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I have shown loyalty to my company by telling the truth and saying I've accepted this as my career. Which I didn't want to, but I guess when you work at something and are good at it, you might as well do it forever.
Professor Beef
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Hustle. Loyalty. And with that post, you've earned (more of) my #respect.
*raises your hand in the air*
It's better than nothing. I'd get it if it was my only choice.
hugs surround sound system*
Nice! Congrats!
I was supposed to get a nice raise on April 1st, but I got dicked over and got a really tiny(1,500/year) raise instead. I like the work I do, but I hate the job. I really want to get an offer from somewhere else so I can say "This is what they'll pay me. Match it, assholes." I fear that would rock the boat too much and I'd end up not enjoying different work.
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That's a dangerous game to play, never underestimate a pissed CEO that's like "well fuck it, let them pay him that much I don't need it"
My issue is that I work in a very specialized department, so they KNOW there's no competition.
Yeah I live in a population centre of about 15,000 people and theres a severe lack of jobs in my field here. That also means theres a severe lack of people that can do my job here. My manager knows I deserve to make more money, but the owner is a dick. He gave out jars of honey as our Christmas "bonus", and I got food poisoning from our Christmas party meal.
I don't think it's any secret that the IWC would love for Cena to be out for a while....even if it's only a few months, the product would be better for it.
That being said, I don't wish an injury on anyone, but if that is what it takes to make Cena give a sad face interview and say he's going to be out for a while before handing over the belt, I'm all for it....and will mark out during the entire interview (till Ryback comes out and Cena turns heel on the IWC and AA's Ryback and announces he's fighting at ER anyway, then I'll get pissed again).
That being said, I don't wish an injury on anyone, but if that is what it takes to make Cena give a sad face interview and say he's going to be out for a while before handing over the belt, I'm all for it....and will mark out during the entire interview (till Ryback comes out and Cena turns heel on the IWC and AA's Ryback and announces he's fighting at ER anyway, then I'll get pissed again).
I hope Undertaker doesn't show up so we can finally get the belts off Hell No! I'm afraid of what might happen to The Shield when they become champs, but its time for Bryan and Kane to switch it up a bit.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
At least they would take some risks. I mean, you would have no choice really.
Mr. Enigma
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How about Ziggler and AJ. How about Jericho, Christian and Punk? Sheamus would work. Randy is a terrible face. Miz is horrible.
Daniel Bryan makes a fun face, there's also Del Rio still with Rodriguez.
And hey, if they're really desperate, call up Joe Hennig as Joe Hennig.
Fine by me, at least Ryback is a fresh face.
If this happened first the WWE would call Punk immediately to come back and stop going to baseball games and UFC shows. Then next the Undertaker will be on tv alot more. Then work from there.
Also Cena has a strained achilles he got last week. He can work tag matches but no one knows if he can do a single match.
Punk would say fuck off. He's that kind of guy. And really, if he did, what could they do about it?
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Deleted member 47027
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I don't know if he's the type of dude I'd like to follow.
Sue him for breach of contract