I don't think it's just about a great performance though. Taker is the last true "spectacle" at Mania. The first Mania without Taker is going to be weird IMO.
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I don't think it's just about a great performance though. Taker is the last true "spectacle" at Mania. The first Mania without Taker is going to be weird IMO.
Yeah, that's something I'm trying to avoid thinking about. Once Undertaker's gone, WrestleMania's going to lose a ton of its luster. Taker's really the last really theatrical "characters" left anymore as well, especially since Kane is just another big man now.
They're not going to give anyone the chance. They'll probably rely on part time stars like The Rock, Jericho and Brock Lesnar after Undertaker is gone to give Wrestlemania that special event feeling.
UberTag
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I won't have a special event feeling about WrestleMania until the first one after Vince is gone.
I'll be devastated when Taker retires for good. I know some folk bitch about him, but not getting WM matches like Taker/Punk ever again will be just sad. He's the most deserving "super face" there ever was.
Get Money in the Bank back to WM. That's a good yearly spectacle. With one briefcase for either title.
Jeff Hardy
Alternatively, this could mean WrestleMania can be about current stars, current feuds and actually get some build again, instead of putting over part timers just because they're famous or legends.
polyh3dron
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I hope today's crowd is non stop booing for everything.
WWE deserves it.
WWE deserves it.
With Taker specifically, he's still putting on better matches than the active talent though.
or got it back?
He is and I hope he has a few more, but him being there and winning these matches, in the end it does nothing at all for the talent, the rest of the product or the buyrate (I think).
That avatar could make anyone lose their smile.
cartoon_soldier
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Better than Rock...assuming already posted. Taker comes back, gives us the MOTN at WM, he is good to be there at WM. He isn't going after titles unlike Rock, so it doesn't really matter if he puts talent over or not.
Well for a good while now he's mostly been going up against people who are already super well established, and/or are legends along side him. The people he's been going up against don't gain anything but they aren't exactly losing anything either. Taker isn't holding anybody back, if anything he's showing them how it's done.
People are still going to cheer CM Punk like he's wrestling Jesus and they'll still be able to say that he has the longest modern title reign.
Taker isn't the problem. The problem is the other two matches booked behind him consisted of three wrestlers who had a combined 5 or 6 matches in the last year and the 72 time World Champion.
funkystudent
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They totally fucked themselves then. They should've booked some of these newer guys into great matches a few years ago. It would've been an effective way to showcase their ability while we still had matches that included The Rock, Edge, Undertaker and so on. It will be weird once Undertaker is gone but that's totally Vince and co.'s own fault because they failed to give these newer guys a chance. I would've liked Dbry, Cesaro, Sandow, Barrett, Ziggler, Punk, Sheamus (etc) booked in matches against each other with a great storyline. Or I would've liked to see them challenge one of The Rock, Jericho, Undertaker, Brock, and/or HHH so they can at least be put over. These horrible old timer matches are boring. It was cool back then but none of this crap means anything now since half of them are only on Raw three times a year.
cartoon_soldier
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polyh3dron
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good on rock for bailing the fuck out of that shitshow.
Don't worry, they have been building someone up.
THE MIZ
He's like 4-0 at WrestleMania right? The next great streak.
Buckethead
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The Rock v The Zombie!
Pillman is looking rough
Taker just gave Punk his most memorable and historical match he'll ever have.
cartoon_soldier
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Like, that he had to lose to Cena?
It's still a shitty thing to do.
I can see Rock telling someone they need to use this opportunity to turn Cena.
Nope. This is not above his MitB match with Cena, so no. If Austin vs Punk happens next year, it will be third.
UberTag
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Ironically, Flair is going to find a way to still be wrestling by the time his record is broken.
cartoon_soldier
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HHH since is career is NOT OVER
Cena-Punk at MitB was terrible in terms of performance between the two. Only thing better was the Chicago crowd in that arena compared to the NY/NJ stadium.
How much could The Rock get away with? Screwimg over Vince isn't smart for anyone, but how hard does Vince think he needs Rock at WM next year?
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UberTag
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He's probably lobbying with USA to get all of the ads for G.I. Joe and Pain & Gain pulled from tonight's broadcast.
I hope he's throwing a big 'ole tantrum like only Vince can do at 67 years of age.
"How dare he walk out on me?
I made him!
I'm Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
I'm bigger than everyone here.
I own you."
We were talking historical and memorabel right, because neither two matches were his best technical matches.
i wonder what AJ is doing.
UberTag
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Bret Hart is always right.
Heh, Bret will have enjoyed that for sure.
Being cynical and bitter all the time about wrasslin' would lead you to being right pretty much all the time.