ESPN relies on people just wanting to work for ESPN rather than paying all that much. I guess we're about to see how passionate Renee is about wrasslin.
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April Wrasslin' |OT| The Spirit of the Ultimate Warrior Will Run Forever!
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ESPN relies on people just wanting to work for ESPN rather than paying all that much. I guess we're about to see how passionate Renee is about wrasslin.
bean breath
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Did they? Was it just a graphic at the start of the show?
HerbertFish
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serenewarfare
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ESPN pays like shit, guys. They rely on people just wanting to work for them because they are ESPN. And she really does love wrestling. I'm not saying she won't go, but this isn't a Coach/Grisham situation.
Yeah, I can't imagine her enjoying her job more with ESPN. She's getting to do tons of cool stuff with the WWE, and she's probably well taken care of.
serenewarfare
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I don't know, I didn't watch. I remember reading something about a graphic of some sort.
ESPN can lead to GMA. Renee can spend 3-5 years on ESPN and then transition to GMA. If they are going after her they will pay her. Liking wrestling doesn't mean she should be dumb and hurt herself.
'Hurt herself?' Why do people think WWE pays her peanuts?
Serpentine
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nah dude, it's worth it. admittedly, the scenes with those two are the ones that stretch suspension of disbelief at most because you wonder why they aren't being fuckin' swarmed by guys while they're fighting, but at the same time,
they're in like two scenes
serenewarfare
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Yeah, I don't understand why working for WWE is "hurting herself". Not everyone wants to work for GMA.
slightconfuse
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Coach has his own radio show and host sportcenter.
todd grisham does boxing coverage i beleive
Is GMA the ultimate goal of everyone in broadcasting? Honest question because it's not exactly a business I pay much attention to and I have no idea what Renee's goals are.
That sounds reasonable.
That sounds reasonable.
serenewarfare
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Maybe she likes the spot she is in and is compensated well enough to stay? Not everyone is about being at the top.
Professor Beef
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MMA friends, who would win in a shoot fight: Kevin James' character from "Here Comes The Boom," or CM Punk?
cr_blah_blah
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Man, Heyman is just so smart about his philosophy of staying relevant. How not to be the old man yelling at a cloud and evolving instead with society. Part 2 of his interview with Stone Cold is even better than the first.
Net_Wrecker
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I consider myself an honorary member of MMA Friends®, and I'll speak for them by telling you without a doubt that Kevin James would stomp out CM Punk and break him and make him humble.
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I'm surprised, amazed, and slightly baffled.
Not in any particular order either.
NOOOOOO.
SHHH....don't spoil them on my debut!
bean breath
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Remember how I used to say that Shawn Michaels and CM Punk had the same physique?
I was wrong. Michaels is in better shape.
I was wrong. Michaels is in better shape.
Professor Beef
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Net_Wrecker
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serenewarfare
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You mean like this?
I have no context on this and still think it's great.
lovely ladies
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I have to agree with this, also the fact that Renee Young has a bit of a personality probably makes her more attractive because she could be used outside just strictly sideline reporting duties like Michelle Beadle (even though ESPN brought back Beadle recently).
FallingEdge
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You mean like this?
This was of the greatest moments in the history of our sport.
serenewarfare
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Tomorrow's NXT is the last from that taping, right? I'm ready for new faces and a re-energized crowd.
lovely ladies
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Would it? I'm not sure, I would think they'll just wish her luck and bring up the interviewer from NXT.
It's called being 43 and spending much of the last 10 years semi-active.
I wonder how TNA will pay tribute to the Ultimate Warrior during tomorrow's Impact?
A ripoff char called Recreant that looks a lot like Renegade from WCW. Maybe they'll sign Ryback to play the part.
Dr Duncan Steel
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Devin? She's a damn toolbox compared to Queen Renee. They straight up should make her the Divas commentator for RAW just so we can decrease the garbage that is King, Cole, and I hate to say this, JBL.
serenewarfare
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Catching up on WM Rewind. Reminds me how much I loved Michaels and Jericho's feud from 2008. Probably my favorite feud ever.
lovely ladies
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Lol, let's hope Devin doesn't lurk on GAF. I usually skip her segments so she might very well be a toolbox, I don't know.
They needed more limos that night.
Also, they had live feeds of Hogan's limo on the way to Impact Zone. Then he gets there, heads to the ring and the first words out of his mouth are "I've been in the back all night watching and...."
Professor Beef
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Didn't he get out of a limo just to get into another one?
Serpentine
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she's just kinda boring and uncharismatic, while not being outright bad
serenewarfare
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So many things went bad on that first Monday Impact. It all started downhill when it took Homicide 5 minutes to climb out of that godforsaken domed cage.
Renee is hit or miss on comentary, she sometimes has this horrible Michael Cole thing of talking about anything and everything that is not the match they are watching in front of them, but it's not that often and I chalk it up to inexperience. Michael Cole, on the other hand, has no excuse to distract us from the match and bring it down.
I don't know, she's ok as an analyst and she is very much in touch with the storylines, I don't think she can do play by play.
Kicking Jerry Lawler out and giving his spot to her would actually be very good from a lot of point of views. But then again, kicking Jerry Lawler out and giving his spot to the great Khali might be an improvement, too.
I tried watching ironically one time and couldn't. It's fun to talk about what they did incredibly wrong in the past, but it's just a drag to see those sad people stuck in this carnival of stupid. It actually bummed me out.
I don't know, she's ok as an analyst and she is very much in touch with the storylines, I don't think she can do play by play.
Kicking Jerry Lawler out and giving his spot to her would actually be very good from a lot of point of views. But then again, kicking Jerry Lawler out and giving his spot to the great Khali might be an improvement, too.
I tried watching ironically one time and couldn't. It's fun to talk about what they did incredibly wrong in the past, but it's just a drag to see those sad people stuck in this carnival of stupid. It actually bummed me out.
HOMEBOY OVER HERE
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I can't believe tna actually has fans
ahhhhh I just went to the tna website MY EYES lol
ahhhhh I just went to the tna website MY EYES lol
QueenOfThorns
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As the new Mean Gene she's terrific. Great interviewer, but I just don't feel her on commentary. I would like to see a woman take over the play by play role but I don't think it'll be her. I do want to see the current commentary team launched into the sun though. Maybe keep JBL if the person they have doing play by play can keep him in line, because with soulless robot Cole there's just zero emotion and it hurts my enjoyment of matches, even really good ones. Get Tony Schiavone.
I'm not really feeling the NXT commentary either. The commentary in NXT Arrival was really good, everyone was on point. But then it's back to the usual blandness.
Serpentine
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Yeah, true. Occasionally this can be great, like when there's a 4 man booth during a Mason Ryan match or whatever and they go off the rails completely because who reallllllllllly cares about a Mason Ryan match
serenewarfare
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He only shows up on rare occasion, but what a treat it is when he does. He is so good.
serenewarfare
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I will say that I don't think Cole is a bad announcer, I just think the announcers today are deliberately produced to talk less about the matches and more about stories and ancillary stuff. Cole's work on Smackdown before he became the lead guy was good. Not great, but good. Now they are all so heavily produced that I don't think you can really blame them for much.
Pristine_Condition
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Just catching up with this thread as today was basically dedicated to UFC.
Only have one thing to say: You guys talking about Pudz in any fashion doing anything in the WWE are fucking hilarious.
Let's give you guys everything you want... Let's imagine a dream world where he can pass a drug test. Let's just imagine a dream world where the WWE throws away their current policy and decides to give this 37 year old dude a shot. Let's continue living in a dream world and say he's a super-athletic guy and super smart and picks up the business as fast as a 1-in-1,000,000 guy like Kurt Angle. What...even at that breakneck pace, he's at least 39 when he gets out of training? OK. That makes sense. So how many guys does his green ass hurt? So, how long does this guy last on the brutal WWE road schedule? After all, if he's this monster draw, you need him hitting all the towns and making all the appearances. How long does he keep even looking like that, at 40, while living out of a suitcase?
Honestly, I'd give him 3 months tops before he has both quads and a biceps tear and is out for 8 months. Making his return at 41 years old.
The WWE would have to calculate that, along with the money lost from probably two or three top guys he'd likely hurt in the ring coming off their injuries as well. And they would have to be top guys, make no mistake, because you can't do squashes for very long at his age. You don't have time to build him at 40. That's right out the window. And if you guys are saying he'd be this major force and revelation to the fans and all that, well he'd have to be hot-shotted and put right in the upper-tier mix. The clock is ticking fast on this "talent."
So yeah. It's your top guys in there with this guy.
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Now consider the alternative: Smaller, fitter, more natural, more durable, more skilled guys that don't hurt people bad in the ring who can make all the dates on the road and pass drug tests and still sell 600+K subscriptions and an additional 400K domestic Mania buys. Good, solid, sustainable business.
No congressional investigations into Eastern European PED smuggling either. I'm pretty sure the last thing the WWE and their shareholders and mainstream toy vendors want to hear is "Mr and Ms Mcmahon or Mr Leveque...could you please tell this committee why someone placed an order for a dozen bottles of synthesized bear testosterone from a vendor in Poland and had it delivered to your arena?"
You guys really need to get your heads out of the Weider mags and think about THIS BUSINESS. Here's a hint: It changed already, and that change is working just fine and will be completely sustainable as long as you muscle-marks don't fuck it up and send the business back to the days when Buff Bagwell was actually a guy with a roll in the industry.
Only have one thing to say: You guys talking about Pudz in any fashion doing anything in the WWE are fucking hilarious.
Let's give you guys everything you want... Let's imagine a dream world where he can pass a drug test. Let's just imagine a dream world where the WWE throws away their current policy and decides to give this 37 year old dude a shot. Let's continue living in a dream world and say he's a super-athletic guy and super smart and picks up the business as fast as a 1-in-1,000,000 guy like Kurt Angle. What...even at that breakneck pace, he's at least 39 when he gets out of training? OK. That makes sense. So how many guys does his green ass hurt? So, how long does this guy last on the brutal WWE road schedule? After all, if he's this monster draw, you need him hitting all the towns and making all the appearances. How long does he keep even looking like that, at 40, while living out of a suitcase?
Honestly, I'd give him 3 months tops before he has both quads and a biceps tear and is out for 8 months. Making his return at 41 years old.
The WWE would have to calculate that, along with the money lost from probably two or three top guys he'd likely hurt in the ring coming off their injuries as well. And they would have to be top guys, make no mistake, because you can't do squashes for very long at his age. You don't have time to build him at 40. That's right out the window. And if you guys are saying he'd be this major force and revelation to the fans and all that, well he'd have to be hot-shotted and put right in the upper-tier mix. The clock is ticking fast on this "talent."
So yeah. It's your top guys in there with this guy.
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Now consider the alternative: Smaller, fitter, more natural, more durable, more skilled guys that don't hurt people bad in the ring who can make all the dates on the road and pass drug tests and still sell 600+K subscriptions and an additional 400K domestic Mania buys. Good, solid, sustainable business.
No congressional investigations into Eastern European PED smuggling either. I'm pretty sure the last thing the WWE and their shareholders and mainstream toy vendors want to hear is "Mr and Ms Mcmahon or Mr Leveque...could you please tell this committee why someone placed an order for a dozen bottles of synthesized bear testosterone from a vendor in Poland and had it delivered to your arena?"
You guys really need to get your heads out of the Weider mags and think about THIS BUSINESS. Here's a hint: It changed already, and that change is working just fine and will be completely sustainable as long as you muscle-marks don't fuck it up and send the business back to the days when Buff Bagwell was actually a guy with a roll in the industry.
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