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April Wrasslin |OT| WrassleMania Sucked
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Basileus777
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dream said:
That's precisely why it needs to be broken. It would be stupid to throw 20 years of booking down the drain to no one's benefit.
spindashing
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A little late to the part but lol @ the title change.
I just want to reiterate that Miz' intro with the Hate Me Now was done really well. It made me a fan.
I just want to reiterate that Miz' intro with the Hate Me Now was done really well. It made me a fan.
Conrad Link
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Kusagari said:
"Yaaaaaaaaaaa, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh, Del Rio, haaaaaaaaaaaaaagh."
Rafa=FedKilla
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So Miz v. orton again? yes please.
Basileus777 said:
Turn Cena heel, make the usual super Cena into the most dominating heel champion ever during a year, then have a heel super Cena that loses to no one go against the Taker for a last title reign so he can retire as Champion with a 20-0 after beating the biggest guy in the company.
Barack Lesnar
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Yeah a caller said that, a great description.Conrad Link said:
Rafa=FedKilla
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Sheamus vs. daniel bryan will be the first match on raw tomorrow.
-Pyromaniac-
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Ending the streak is the dumbest idea ever. He'll keep it and retire with it, as he should.
Ninja Scooter
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-Pyromaniac- said:
at this point who could do it? HBK is a legend and he couldn't do it twice. His good buddy and fellow legend HHH couldn't do it. The way HBK was telling him "You can't win" gave the streak so much power. There is now something almost mystical about it.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Nah brah orton is aboot to go there and dominate the brand.Kusagari said:
Khrno said:
Sorry but Super Edge is perfectly valid given how Edge is:
- Immune to finishers/slams. During his feud with Kane, he was only chokeslammed once out of 30 attempts. Show me where he doesn't get out of any kind of slam attempt. Must be in his contract or something lol
- Has held the title since last year. He is on a winning streak here.
Super Edge is what he will be called until he loses
Mailenstein
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Not done really well. It was excellent.spindashing said:
Conrad Link
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Edge's running hug is the only unstoppable finisher left in the company.
-Pyromaniac-
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I agree. It's one of those things that will go down in WWE history as an unimaginable feat that no one will ever reach. And no one ever will!Ninja Scooter said:
Ninja Scooter said:
Sting is the only guy that really makes sense as an opposing threat anymore when it comes right down to it. Sting could even say he wants to humiliate Taker and the WWE by beating the Immortal 19-0 Undertaker at the biggest show of them all.
But yeah it has zero chance of happening.
Kyoufu said:Sorry but Super Edge is perfectly valid given how Edge is:
- Immune to finishers/slams. During his feud with Kane, he was only chokeslammed once out of 30 attempts. Show me where he doesn't get out of any kind of slam attempt. Must be in his contract or something lol
- Has held the title since last year. He is on a winning streak here.
Super Edge is what he will be called until he loses
Well, I would agree that his face character has been in the super side, because if we go back to 2009, he lost against Punk, twice if I remember correctly, when he was still the champion, he got dominated by Taker on both WM and SS, and a few more times during that year. Hardy, Batista, Jericho, etc, everyone has had the upperhand on him, but he was just the ultimate opportunist and got the titles somehow, that was his main feature as a heel, but he was far from super.
But ok, I will agree with you that the current Edge is more super than Cena.
Kyoufu said:Sorry but Super Edge is perfectly valid given how Edge is:
- Immune to finishers/slams. During his feud with Kane, he was only chokeslammed once out of 30 attempts. Show me where he doesn't get out of any kind of slam attempt. Must be in his contract or something lol
- Has held the title since last year. He is on a winning streak here.
Super Edge is what he will be called until he loses
Since last year you mean Dec, and technically he "lost" it in Feb to Ziggler, and won it back the same night.
Hell, Miz has been champion longer than Edge...
Wait, is this the first Mania since the brand split in which neither title changed hands?
Was there really only 2 title matches on this show?
Basileus777
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-Pyromaniac- said:
What a wasted opportunity that would be. What's the point of a fake streak if it's never used to put someone over?
dream
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Its all over twitter that Undertaker has been taken to the hospital for really low blood pressure and weak pulse.
Edit: Wtf?
http://twitter.com/#!/FranzGarcia
Gotta be some crazy rumors.
Edit: Wtf?
http://twitter.com/#!/FranzGarcia
Gotta be some crazy rumors.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Corre v.s Santino. Kofi. Big Slow Kane is the match that made me want to be a pro wrestler.
Rafa=FedKilla
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No shit, tha's what happens when you are a dead.Coins said:
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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lol what?Basileus777 said:
Putting someone over isn't a personal thing you do to make someone else better. It's a method to making someone else a reason to watch. Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak and his streak of great matches while defending it is the biggest reason to watch. Putting anyone over with it doesn't help the company or the person getting put over.
What would have been Undertaker's Mania matches and feuds and the best things on the card for the last three years if he had went 15-1?
I disagree. Some legends are perfectly fine to be left standing on their own.Basileus777 said:
The streak wasn't really a big deal until 7 or 8 years ago, and it has only been in the last 3-5 manias (Particularly since Mr. Wrestlemania set his sights on it) where it has become legendary and taken on a life of its own Outside of maybe his matches against mysterio, edge, HBK, and this year's match with HHH, the matches that compose the streak are mostly forgettable. However, the streak is now being used as the bookend for the careers of all the old talent remaining from the pre-attitude era, some of the greatest legends the business has ever seen, from its greatest era.
Outside of the whole of the wrestlemania careers of Shawn Michaels (and MAYBE Bret Hart), there is no greater legacy in all of wrestlemania than the streak, in my opinion. And if you have someone end the streak, well, then it's no longer the streak. You've killed that legacy.
It's bigger than any one person's career now, in my opinion. It's taker's career, and the bookends of the careers of HHH and Mr Wrestlemania himself.
Maybe it's because I wasn't expecting much, or maybe it's cause I haven't sat down and watched a whole WWE PPV in a long time, but I actually thought it was pretty good. Edge/Del Rio was good, despite going on way early and pretty much giving away that Edge would retain. Rhodes/Rey was surprising for me. I don't follow Smackdown, so I was impressed how far Cody has come. Orton/Punk was a little disappointing but still really good. I was hoping it wouldn't be a typical Orton flash RKO finish, but at least they altered it a little bit. Punk's face after the dodged bullet was great, and coming off the top rope was a good spot. Cole/King could have gone shorter, but at least the filler matches came and went pretty quick. I was happy that all the singles matches got a good amount of time.
Taker/HHH was good, but I didn't love it. I think it was too obvious that they were cashing in on their reputations with all the finisher kick outs, and the meat wasn't there that was in the HBK matches. But still it told a good story. Miz/Cena I can't comment on cause my lamp was crapping out during most of it, but the booking could definitely have been better. Why did Rock restart the match only to immediate have it end with the same result?
Taker/HHH was good, but I didn't love it. I think it was too obvious that they were cashing in on their reputations with all the finisher kick outs, and the meat wasn't there that was in the HBK matches. But still it told a good story. Miz/Cena I can't comment on cause my lamp was crapping out during most of it, but the booking could definitely have been better. Why did Rock restart the match only to immediate have it end with the same result?
Net_Wrecker
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Although I had a good time watching with friends, looking back and thinking about it now, that was a pretty mehhhhh Wrestlemania. Short matches, tons of wasted time with the Cole/Lawler match, short as hell opening title match, REALLY BAD very boring main event until The Rock brought something to it., etc. etc.
- Taker/HHH was fun, but didn't come anywhere near HBK/Taker I or II
- Del Rio/Edge was WAY too short
- CM Punk has some of the best in-ring mannerisms of any current wrestler. He works the crowd into it so well, and mocks his opponent perfectly.
- The Rock squashing the Champ to end the show? Yeaaaahhhhh...
- The Miz/John Cena was so bad. Nothing special at all.
- 2 minute 8 man tag was embarrassing
- No Daniel Bryan/Sheamus which could've probably been the BEST match of the night.
- 6 person mixed tag was garbage
- Lawler/Cole was super boring
- Rhodes/Mysterio was solid
- Taker/HHH was fun, but didn't come anywhere near HBK/Taker I or II
- Del Rio/Edge was WAY too short
- CM Punk has some of the best in-ring mannerisms of any current wrestler. He works the crowd into it so well, and mocks his opponent perfectly.
- The Rock squashing the Champ to end the show? Yeaaaahhhhh...
- The Miz/John Cena was so bad. Nothing special at all.
- 2 minute 8 man tag was embarrassing
- No Daniel Bryan/Sheamus which could've probably been the BEST match of the night.
- 6 person mixed tag was garbage
- Lawler/Cole was super boring
- Rhodes/Mysterio was solid
The streak is now at a point where it's unfeasible for anyone who has ever competed in WWE to have any shot at breaking it. He's beaten all the best the WWE has to offer him. Thus, the only way 20-0 will mean anything is if he beats the best wrestler outside the WWE. He needs to get 20-0 by beating Sting.
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