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April Wrasslin |OT| WrassleMania Sucked
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Cole vs. Lawler was an overbooked pile of garbage. No need for him to walk down the ramp doing a self promo. We get it. Cole is a douche. Cole has no business being in the ring so what do you guys have him doing ... working on Lawler's legs. I get that he was "trained" by Swagger but he was so out of place in the ring. As a result, the crowd started the "boring" chants. Match started out fun with fight in the "Cole Mine" but the minute they went in the ring, it went downhill. Should have made it a street fight with max involvement from Swagger. Closing would then be in the ring. Booker coming into the ring was stupid. Why, what reason did he have in coming to the ring? I can see JR, but why Booker? Like I said, overbooked garbage. Lawler deserved better for his one and probably ONLY Wrestlemania match.
Nocturnowl
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Cena really seemed to be half assing that main event. Usually I would praise Cena with his ability to deliver in big match ups regardless of how much I may dislike the end result but DAMN did he disappoint!
Miz looked like he was trying hard out there even with his so-so wrestling ability, hell he even threw in some new moves (well a side effect) but Cena just went through the motions. A mostly apathetic crowd (for this match at least, no doubt waiting for The Rock) and fake count out finish make it arguably one of the worst WM main events in years. Also I found Cena's entrance plain horrible.
As far as Trips and Taker go i'm kind of torn. It was incredibly slow with ridiculous amounts of dead time from selling every damn move like death itself. It did have pretty good content but so very slow and too damn long.
I anticipated both tag matches and Bryan/Sheamus (didn't know it was bumped off the card at the time) so I can't help but feel annoyed at the stupid length of time the match, entrances and even aftermath took up. (see also: King/Cole travesty)
Rhodes and Mysterio put on the match of the night for me, solid match with nice use of the face protector and knee brace.
Like many i'm disappointed with this years WM, I watched with 2 of my friends and we all felt pretty underwhelmed by the event. The kicker for me being that many good mid carders who would have put on some entertaining matches got shafted (Morrison, Ziggler, Kofi, Barrett, Sheamus, Bryan and more!)
Also no highlight reel again!
Miz looked like he was trying hard out there even with his so-so wrestling ability, hell he even threw in some new moves (well a side effect) but Cena just went through the motions. A mostly apathetic crowd (for this match at least, no doubt waiting for The Rock) and fake count out finish make it arguably one of the worst WM main events in years. Also I found Cena's entrance plain horrible.
As far as Trips and Taker go i'm kind of torn. It was incredibly slow with ridiculous amounts of dead time from selling every damn move like death itself. It did have pretty good content but so very slow and too damn long.
I anticipated both tag matches and Bryan/Sheamus (didn't know it was bumped off the card at the time) so I can't help but feel annoyed at the stupid length of time the match, entrances and even aftermath took up. (see also: King/Cole travesty)
Rhodes and Mysterio put on the match of the night for me, solid match with nice use of the face protector and knee brace.
Like many i'm disappointed with this years WM, I watched with 2 of my friends and we all felt pretty underwhelmed by the event. The kicker for me being that many good mid carders who would have put on some entertaining matches got shafted (Morrison, Ziggler, Kofi, Barrett, Sheamus, Bryan and more!)
Also no highlight reel again!
Arrowgigantic
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Anyway, Cody vs. Rey was my match of the night. And the announcers managed to pull it off too, talking about how Cody was focusing a lot of attacks on Rey's face. Cody had a great match, and no Rey botches. The only match with a decent finish, too, except for Taker. I mean, the flying RKO was a good spot and everything, but it's such a brick wall of a finish. Maybe they're setting up a match where the RKO isn't legal.
Point is, whoever is behind the Cody and Rey match should be handling Miz. Miz needs an impetus for a better direction now that his (awesome) video package has come true.
Point is, whoever is behind the Cody and Rey match should be handling Miz. Miz needs an impetus for a better direction now that his (awesome) video package has come true.
Arrowgigantic
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I agree that it all went downhill after the fight in the Cole Mine, which was really funny.
Nocturnowl said:
I saw that too. It all started out with the WM conference. He looked dejected. Just out of it. The reality is, people wanted to see Cena get a Rock Bottom and that's what happened. I didn't like the double count out. I've never liked them. It's fine for a RAW match but not a PPV. As suggested earlier, Rocking coming out to distract Cena made more sense. The last thing we needed was the Rock on the mic again (with all due respect). He had his promo/gethype/igotgoosebumps bit before the opening promo .. plus the 2 backstage segments.
x Power Pad Death Stomp x
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They have to turn Cena heel. The story is all layed out for them. Cena isn't getting he cheers he usually gets, faces the Rock @ Extreme Rules, wins but nearly gets booed out of the building. Turns heel, destroys the Miz for the title. And I mean just wrecks him, leaves him a bloody pulp in the ring. Then Cena goes on a year run as the most hated man in wwe.
Or, he dances around like a goof, overcomes the odds, and Vince pretEnds people aren't booing while counting the $ from the latest t shirt.
Or, he dances around like a goof, overcomes the odds, and Vince pretEnds people aren't booing while counting the $ from the latest t shirt.
Jeff Albertson
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The main problem with the Cena Miz match was everyone knew rock would be involved so why care before that point as the Rocks involvement was all that was hyped.
x Power Pad Death Stomp x said:
Any other wrestler that was getting booed that much for that long would have been turned heel loooong ago. The optimistic side of me says the are waiting to build it up proper and make it an epic turn. The realistic side of me says as long as kids are buying his T-shirts, vince will never ever turn him heel.
cartoon_soldier
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What WWE should have done was simple,
Rock vs Cena instead of the BS we got
Miz vs JoMo. They could have a clean, awesome match.
Agreed, if it's bad for business there is no reason for Vince to turn him heel.
Rock vs Cena instead of the BS we got
Miz vs JoMo. They could have a clean, awesome match.
Agreed, if it's bad for business there is no reason for Vince to turn him heel.
Barack Lesnar
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What's a good site/twitter that has rumors of stuff and is actually right most of the time? Maybe has some connections so you can find out if Taker's really hurt, that type of thing...
Conrad Link
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Re that Cena kid clip:
Aw thats kinda nice their whole family sits around to watch the wrestling.
It would be like having all you guys in my lounge lol'ing at everything.
Aw thats kinda nice their whole family sits around to watch the wrestling.
It would be like having all you guys in my lounge lol'ing at everything.
StealthGoblin
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I wonder if Cena deliberately half-arsed the match. If he did, poor show.
polyh3dron
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Snooki gifs. NAO.
Balya said:
Yeah there are always exceptions. Taker took a "banned" chair shot towards the noggin' last night. I also remember for awhile Taker wasn't even doing tombstones, only last ride and choke slams. Yet...he brought back the tombstone at mania (can't remember which).
I just think there should just be exceptions. Look at Vince. He's taken a beating multiple times.
They should have put Cole through a table or something. A stunner? Something....
People were dying to see him get DESTROYED.
cartoon_soldier
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Galvanise_ said:
Doubt it, it looks like the way it was booked. Commentators even had the script talking about how Cena has lost his "equilibirium"
Whatever one's opinion of the Cena character, he has been a hard worker through the years.
They just need to Fire Cole and bring back JR.
Conrad Link
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Is Snooki gonna be on Raw? I hope she's the anonymous GM.
StealthGoblin
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cartoon_soldier said:
Yeah definitely hard working.
It just seems really odd for him to come out and look lackluster. Maybe we'll find out tonight, who knows?
I didn't really get the point of restarting the last match, Cena already blew his title shot. It's like it was just to troll people who thought Rock was going to challenge Miz for the belt after the draw while he was walking to the ring. I get the logic of making it a draw and restarting it as No Holds Barred so Rock could fuck Cena up, but seems like there could've been a more exciting way to book it. What Rock did could've been accomplished with a simple ref bump.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
WWE probably blew a huge opportunity last night. The Rock and SCSA being actually involved with the card was huge and probably drew back a ton of fans who had left over the years.
Then they put on a terrible show.
Then they put on a terrible show.
DoctorWho said:
Pretty much, its too much of a trophy piece to get rid of it buts its not the completely awesome rad spinner belt from RAW (sigh)
I hate that spinner belt, to me its a farce of what the heavyweight belt should look like. I wish they would go back to the unified belt and have 1 champ. Why do both shows need 1 champ when ultimately the WHC is like Heavyweight Jr (which makes the Intercontinental and the US what like training belts?)
DoctorWho said:
Things actually looked like it was going to pick up when they went outside. Then the count out happened. In a reverse TNA moment, Rock restarts the match after talking way too long, only to Rock Bottom Cena. It was just awkward and I definitely felt Rock fatigue by the end of the match. GAFers could have written a better ending than that.
Seriously, looking back, that's some awful TNA Nitro booking shit, and it only looked a wee bit better because The Rock (who was kinda terrible all night) was out there. Totally awful thinking back now the next morning. You put this Rock-Cena shit above the champ and title. Man...Kusagari said:
Really, other than Taker-Trips it was a total non-event. And even the good Cody-Rey match as well as the average ADR-Edge/Blady-Punk stuff was all so mild/bland and was generally stuff you could easily see on Raw/Smackdown/even Superstars.
Everything else was either too short (hello eight man tag), too long (Cole-King, easily), not funny (everything fucking celebrity skit they tried) or not relevant (Snooki Match, even if it was arguably among the best things on this card, sadly).
So aside from one match, there was nothing especially WM about this, and with a $50+ asking price, that's just terrible.
Nocturnowl
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It doesn't help that by also shortchanging the midcarders they missed a prime opportunity to get old fans behind the new wrestlers. People who for example have seen next to nothing of Ziggler, Morrison and Kingston aren't likely to have been impressed by their performance at WM, hell their combined amount of moves was probably less than 8.Plinko said:
Arrowgigantic
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How dare you say he was a non-wrestler, Kaufman was the intergender champion.Balya said:
Spiderjericho
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markatisu said:
I think they should unify all of the belts. Only to add significance and meaning to them.
Heavyweight
Intercontinental
United States
Tag Team
Diva
and supplemental titles like MITB, Royal Rumble, King of the Ring, etc.
There could be one main event scene that could play out on both shows, so people can tune into Smackdown too, as the stars can come from both shows.
And to really push people or slow burn have them compete for the intercontinental or united states on each show.
Fourth Storm
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DoctorWho said:
Not sure if you're aware, but the WHC does not have a lineage going back to the NWA titles, despite the fact that the belt looks the same (it does seem a bit smaller and more yellow, but maybe that's just me). All the NWA/WCW history was merged into the WWE title when Chris Jericho became unified champ.
jmdajr said:
Naw, I still think that 9,11,15,2000 are probably worse than this.
Depends on how you feel in the long run about the undercard, I thought Punk/Orton was an awesome, old school type match with the focus on one body part.
And I enjoyed Edge/Del Rio just made it feel so unimportant at the start of the show.
I think Corre vs Show/Kane/Kofi/Santino should have gone on first to get the crowd into the show quickly especially since they had that long Rock promo.
Green Goblin
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Wait, they let that Real World guy become a WWE superstar? LOL
I can't tell if I feel that's awesome or just hilariously bad. Its kinda both at the same time.
mind = blown
I can't tell if I feel that's awesome or just hilariously bad. Its kinda both at the same time.
mind = blown
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Everyone starts somewhere.Green Goblin said:
Green Goblin said:
I don't mind this at all. The guy obviously is passionate about this business. The Miz character has been there since the Real World days. He went the route of Tough Enough and got crapped on for not paying his dues. Slowly but surely he's built enough credibility to win the championship. I like the story.
The Main Event
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Kyoufu said:
Really late answer, but The Rock is one of the main the reasons most people got into the PPV and got their tickets in the first place. Without him, the event not only would've sucked even more (if that's even possible), but the buy rates would've probably been the lowest in Wrestlemania history. No wonder Vince probably begged on his knees in front of him to make an appearance.
I wasn't talking about the booking. The whole event was a downward spiral.
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