B_Rik_Schitthaus
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Lay off the guy, there was 3ft of snow how are you supposed to drive on that while drunk?Hex said:
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April Wrasslin |OT| WrassleMania Sucked
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Lunchbox said:cena's never turning heel
there were legions of kids smaller than that decked out in purple in the house show i went to last month. me and my friend stopped booing and chanting cena sucks/swallows after awhile cause we were getting teary eyed looks from all around us
I can understand not liking Cena, but how immature is it to pick on some kids. Let them be.
Lunchbox said:cena's never turning heel
there were legions of kids smaller than that decked out in purple in the house show i went to last month. me and my friend stopped booing and chanting cena sucks/swallows after awhile cause we were getting teary eyed looks from all around us
Why would those kids stop cheering for him, stop buying his fruity pebble shirts, stop crying over him losing if he went heel?
Hall of Famers all had the same fans during their heel turns. Cena will be no different.
sf2fanatic
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Lunchbox said:cena's never turning heel
there were legions of kids smaller than that decked out in purple in the house show i went to last month. me and my friend stopped booing and chanting cena sucks/swallows after awhile cause we were getting teary eyed looks from all around us
+1 for looking out for the kids...
Im waiting for heel Cena....I have to go back to them Prototype days
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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They might stop buying Cena merch reason enough to keep him face.Kyoufu said:
Arrowgigantic
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Incorrect. Rey lost.worldrunover said:
Spiderjericho
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I think Cena can be stale (it's not really his fault, it's his character). But I just don't see the WWE turning him heel.
Who's going to take his place and be the role model/kid demographic favorite (Rocker Morrison, Bland Daniel Bryan, Boop Boop Boop Kofi Kingston)?
No one on the roster except for Rey Mysterio fills that bill and he seems to be the Smackdown equivalent.
Who's going to take his place and be the role model/kid demographic favorite (Rocker Morrison, Bland Daniel Bryan, Boop Boop Boop Kofi Kingston)?
No one on the roster except for Rey Mysterio fills that bill and he seems to be the Smackdown equivalent.
Pristine_Condition
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Final thoughts on 'Mania Weekend:
+Best Match of Mania was clearly Taker/Trips. With the condition both guys are in, I understand why they got all those crazy spots out of the way in the very beginning, but I felt the match suffered a bit from it. The beginning was a bit of a spotfest. The last half, except for the fact that we saw the pedigree too many times, was more or less pure awesome. That was early 90s Misawa v. Kawada-level selling there.
+If I had to pick a second-best match, I'd have to say it was Cody v. Rey. It surprised me. I've never really noticed Cody much, but he worked really well here, and actually covered for Rey where he seemed a bit off. Good job by both guys telling a compelling story even though nobody cared.
+I had to downgrade Orton v. Punk because Orton is so fucking slow in the ring. Otherwise, it would have been the runner-up Punk sells the hate.
+The Snookie feature was better than it had any right to be, being so short. Trish looked great, got a lot of her shit in, which looked better than it has at any point leading in, and Snookie hit her spots which didn't entirely suck. Fun for what it was.
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-No Seamus v. Bryan sucked balls. Was really looking forward to some wrestling with my 'mania.
-The Dusty Finish in the Lawler match was stupid. You want this "feud" to continue, WWE? Nobody else does. Cole got too much shit in too.
-Double-count-out in the Main Event was even dumber. The Rock not really redeeming the double-count out with a meaningful restart didn't help either.
-All the skits. Horrible. Rock came out stumbling at the intro. Didn't get better. Leading the "I say Yabba" cheer was a point in the man's career I'm sure he'll want to forget.
-The match order sucked balls.
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+Thank GOD for ROH's awesome iPPV this weekend. Two events for $20 was simply ridiculously-awesome, and the best money a wrestling fan could spend. I don't like to shill, but these guys deserve your money, so go and buy the replay if you missed it, especially if you like WORLD-CLASS tag matches. Haas and Benjamin, The Kings of Wrestling, The Briscoes, the All-Night Xpress, and the American Wolves were awesome. I especially appreciated the increadibly-passionate, bloody mess of a match by the Briscoes and the All-Night Xpress. Jay was wearing a crimson mask that must be seen to be believed. The womens' matches were all kinds of fun too. Serena Deeb and Daisy Haze both took SHOCKINGLY DANGEROUS early-90s-level headdrops from the Japanese women like champs. The women on that card did more spectacular stuff than 98% of the Wrestlemania card.
+Best Match of Mania was clearly Taker/Trips. With the condition both guys are in, I understand why they got all those crazy spots out of the way in the very beginning, but I felt the match suffered a bit from it. The beginning was a bit of a spotfest. The last half, except for the fact that we saw the pedigree too many times, was more or less pure awesome. That was early 90s Misawa v. Kawada-level selling there.
+If I had to pick a second-best match, I'd have to say it was Cody v. Rey. It surprised me. I've never really noticed Cody much, but he worked really well here, and actually covered for Rey where he seemed a bit off. Good job by both guys telling a compelling story even though nobody cared.
+I had to downgrade Orton v. Punk because Orton is so fucking slow in the ring. Otherwise, it would have been the runner-up Punk sells the hate.
+The Snookie feature was better than it had any right to be, being so short. Trish looked great, got a lot of her shit in, which looked better than it has at any point leading in, and Snookie hit her spots which didn't entirely suck. Fun for what it was.
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-No Seamus v. Bryan sucked balls. Was really looking forward to some wrestling with my 'mania.
-The Dusty Finish in the Lawler match was stupid. You want this "feud" to continue, WWE? Nobody else does. Cole got too much shit in too.
-Double-count-out in the Main Event was even dumber. The Rock not really redeeming the double-count out with a meaningful restart didn't help either.
-All the skits. Horrible. Rock came out stumbling at the intro. Didn't get better. Leading the "I say Yabba" cheer was a point in the man's career I'm sure he'll want to forget.
-The match order sucked balls.
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+Thank GOD for ROH's awesome iPPV this weekend. Two events for $20 was simply ridiculously-awesome, and the best money a wrestling fan could spend. I don't like to shill, but these guys deserve your money, so go and buy the replay if you missed it, especially if you like WORLD-CLASS tag matches. Haas and Benjamin, The Kings of Wrestling, The Briscoes, the All-Night Xpress, and the American Wolves were awesome. I especially appreciated the increadibly-passionate, bloody mess of a match by the Briscoes and the All-Night Xpress. Jay was wearing a crimson mask that must be seen to be believed. The womens' matches were all kinds of fun too. Serena Deeb and Daisy Haze both took SHOCKINGLY DANGEROUS early-90s-level headdrops from the Japanese women like champs. The women on that card did more spectacular stuff than 98% of the Wrestlemania card.
B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
They won't. Cena's rise to glory all started with his heel character you know.
Besides, even if they didn't buy his merch for a while, he'd gain more popularity from smarks who are like herp derp Cena is stale/boring/fruity pebbles which would result in more shirt sales in the long run! YEAH!
Cena should go heel and become dominant. If they have him lose/get decimated by has-beens like The Rock then that'll hurt him more than simply changing his character.
Battlezone
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Am I the only one who felt like there were the pieces for a really good card, but everything was more jumbled than it needed to be? If you feel Santino has earned his spot on the card, why not pair him with Snooki? If you want to keep Money in the Bank as a separate PPV concept, why not make a ladder match for the US title?
I don't claim to be an expert at all, but it seems like you could have kept the same players and put together a much better card:
Kane/Big Show v. The Corre (Tag Team Championship)
Cody Rhodes v. Rey Mysterio
Randy Orton v. CM Punk
Sheamus v. Daniel Bryan v. Kofi Kingston v. Wade Barrett v. Christian (Ladder Match - United States Championship)
Michael Cole v. Jerry Lawler
Edge v. Alberto Del Rio (World Heavyweight Championship)
Taker v. Triple H
Snooki/Trish Stratus/Santino v. Dolph Ziggler/LayCool
The Miz v. John Cena (WWE Championship)
You could maybe find a sixth for the US Title match, and you'd have to trim some time from Cole/Lawler and EntranceMania, but that's a 4-hour show I'd feel happy spending $65 on.
I don't claim to be an expert at all, but it seems like you could have kept the same players and put together a much better card:
Kane/Big Show v. The Corre (Tag Team Championship)
Cody Rhodes v. Rey Mysterio
Randy Orton v. CM Punk
Sheamus v. Daniel Bryan v. Kofi Kingston v. Wade Barrett v. Christian (Ladder Match - United States Championship)
Michael Cole v. Jerry Lawler
Edge v. Alberto Del Rio (World Heavyweight Championship)
Taker v. Triple H
Snooki/Trish Stratus/Santino v. Dolph Ziggler/LayCool
The Miz v. John Cena (WWE Championship)
You could maybe find a sixth for the US Title match, and you'd have to trim some time from Cole/Lawler and EntranceMania, but that's a 4-hour show I'd feel happy spending $65 on.
Keyser Soze
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Hex said:
That might actually be good, so no.
- Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is teasing an announcement for RAW tonight.
"Team Bring It - I have a very special announcement tonight on Raw," he wrote on his Twitter account. "The People's Champ to The People."
WWE is advertising The Rock to interact with WWE Champion The Miz and John Cena after his role in the finish of their match at WrestleMania 27.
"Team Bring It - I have a very special announcement tonight on Raw," he wrote on his Twitter account. "The People's Champ to The People."
WWE is advertising The Rock to interact with WWE Champion The Miz and John Cena after his role in the finish of their match at WrestleMania 27.
Keyser Soze
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Hex said:
- Via Satellite
- Shut Up With Team Bring It
- I Aint Even There Bro
Rafa=FedKilla
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He's going to bring back kaval!!!Hex said:
StealthGoblin
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ReiGun said:
You don't remember her? She won Tough Enough and was in the WWE and TNA for a while.
British Monsoon
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alstein said:
I don't think powerbombs are banned, but they're definitely used infrequently - I remember Bryan doing one a few months back. Death Valley Driver's are definitely banned though, and no one does the more dangerous looking suplex's or backdrop drivers any more.
Four_Chamber
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dream said:
When GLAAD sensitivity training goes too far.
Man, I'm still losing it at the guy in red who just saw God and the lady going nuts with her tongue on the right.
hahahahahaahah
Professor Beef
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oh oh oh ohLinkhero1 said:
I thought Wrestlemania was a good 6.5 out of 10.
I enjoyed Edge/Del Rio (but the ending was predictable-especially due to the placement of the match on the card), Cody/Rey, and HHH/Taker. Team Snooki vs heels ended up being much better than expected. The Corre/faces filler match was nice and quick as it should be. And I highly enjoyed both the Miz and Cena hype packages and entrances (except for the Miz's inflatable "Awesome'-which was corny). The majority of the time filler skits were corny as hell though and took away from my overall experience.
Another complaint was the Cena/Miz match itself didn't seem main event at Wrestlemania worthy. I kinda feel the whole 'big fight atmosphere' faded within seconds of them two locking up, which was kinda sad b/c everything prior to them locking up was very well done (except for those "Awesome' balloons). This was kinda due to the crowd who didn't really react to anything too much until Rock got involved at the end. I think that the Rock should have just came out as an special enforcer from the start and they could have kept the same ending but just remove the false countout finish-which was unnecessary.
I enjoyed Edge/Del Rio (but the ending was predictable-especially due to the placement of the match on the card), Cody/Rey, and HHH/Taker. Team Snooki vs heels ended up being much better than expected. The Corre/faces filler match was nice and quick as it should be. And I highly enjoyed both the Miz and Cena hype packages and entrances (except for the Miz's inflatable "Awesome'-which was corny). The majority of the time filler skits were corny as hell though and took away from my overall experience.
Another complaint was the Cena/Miz match itself didn't seem main event at Wrestlemania worthy. I kinda feel the whole 'big fight atmosphere' faded within seconds of them two locking up, which was kinda sad b/c everything prior to them locking up was very well done (except for those "Awesome' balloons). This was kinda due to the crowd who didn't really react to anything too much until Rock got involved at the end. I think that the Rock should have just came out as an special enforcer from the start and they could have kept the same ending but just remove the false countout finish-which was unnecessary.
WWE killed themselves with the way Mania was booked.
Everyone, even the mullet wearing unwashed "it's real to me" masses knew that the Rock was going to get involved in the end and that is just piss poor booking.
You do not overshadow your main event on your flagship ppv that blatantly.
They should have had HHH and Taker close the show.
TMZ has Snookie footage which is obviously more important to Vince than good product so he is otherwise oblivious to the suckfest that WM was.
The 8 man could have easily been a darkmatch and in fact could have easily been a lumberjack and turned into a Battle Royal much easier.
Just a poor show all around
Everyone, even the mullet wearing unwashed "it's real to me" masses knew that the Rock was going to get involved in the end and that is just piss poor booking.
You do not overshadow your main event on your flagship ppv that blatantly.
They should have had HHH and Taker close the show.
TMZ has Snookie footage which is obviously more important to Vince than good product so he is otherwise oblivious to the suckfest that WM was.
The 8 man could have easily been a darkmatch and in fact could have easily been a lumberjack and turned into a Battle Royal much easier.
Just a poor show all around
megamerican
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Haven't watched wrestling in years but caught some of WM last night mainly due to Rocky's return. Gotta say that the HHH / Undertaker match was excellent, everything else was pretty bleh. The main event wasn't actively terrible, it was just bland which is actually less entertaining than a terrible match.
I'm still intrigued enough that I might check out Raw tonight.
I'm still intrigued enough that I might check out Raw tonight.
Mr. Enigma
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Kurt Angle is now claiming his Twitter was hacked and he didn't make the comments about people using his finisher. Some people don't believe him, such as CM Punk...
Shadowlink
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CM Punk proves that he is fucking awesome. Poor Angle lolAnEternalEnigma said:
Spiderjericho
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bjork said:
Not sure what you're trying to say. I know they main evented Mania. The main event around that time was mainly Bret/Yokozuna then Shawn got thrown in the mix. It wasn't until years later when they had Austin, Rock, HHH and several other stars who you could consider a main event roster like Angle, Lesnar, etc.
At the moment, the well seems to be drying up, as we mainly get Cena and Orton.
They're trying with Miz, but it's not the same as Michaels/Hart/Yokozuna/Austin after the departure of Hulk Hogan to WCW and the waning of Hulkamania.
I'm not quite sure why they're not investing in their future by as some pointed out developing these newer stars in the mid card
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their farm system, which seems a bit weak versus during the OVW era that produced Tista, Orton, Cena, etc.
They tried to make Dibiase into an entertainer with Marine 2, break away from Legacy, hot fued with Orton and he has just been buried because management doesn't have confidence in him. I'm glad to see Cody starting to break through a bit with the dashing/phantom of the opera gimmick.
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