StealthGoblin
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krae_man said:
They'll probably build it up to Summer Slam, if Rock's schedule is as free as has been reported.
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They'll probably build it up to Summer Slam, if Rock's schedule is as free as has been reported.
Nocturnowl
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I'm hoping for a 15 minute Sheamus Vs Bryan match tonight on raw, as a paying customer for WM I feel they still owe me this.krae_man said:
Don't think his schedule is that free though. He's got Journey 3D he has to start filming soon, and he's also signed on for Snitch in the past couple of weeks. There's also his Fast Five promotional duties. He'll go back to appearing "via satellite" if anything.Galvanise_ said:
Nocturnowl said:
This. I better get a 15 minute match. This is your future Vince. Wrestlemania is over. Get back to building up your new talent. Add a Morrison versus Diggler match while you're at it. In fact, I wouldn't mind a Morrison/Bryan vs. Sheamus/Diggler match .. but for 15 minutes. Let them put on a show!!!
Green Goblin
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Well that's the thing.sajj316 said:
I admire it because I know it was the guy's dream and he made it come true. So that's cool, you have to respect anyone that can live their dream.
However, as purely a wrestling observer, "the miz" on the real world was more of a caricature of a wrestler than an actual persona. Thus seeing it as a REAL character just makes me laugh at it.
Dork Knight
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Nocturnowl said:
Even though I only paid $2 for 'Mania last night, I, too, am a little bummed I didn't get to see that match.
And I would be even MORE bummed if I actually paid $65 dollars and didn't get what was advertised (in addition to 'Mania being a terrible show altogether).
And the WWE wonder why buyrates are down...it's just not worth the money when A) They don't give people what they promise and B) The shows are just not entertaining enough to warrant the huge price tag.
Next year's 'Mania will be really interesting. Vince already used his Rock and Stone Cold cards...'Taker is practically dead...and he's too scared to make any major changes (turn Cena heel, actually push someone new, etc.)....what will he do?
Rated-Rsuperstar
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jmdajr said:
I remember those guys in the promo video. They must have been so pissed.
sf2fanatic
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Nocturnowl said:
you shoulda got a refund. That wasnt a full card..
Aight Gaf Rank matches
1.HHH/TAKER
2.TIE: CENA/MIZ & EDGE/ADR
4.TIE ORTON/PUNK & REY/CODY
SNOOKI MATCH
REST-Forget it
Dork Knight said:Even though I only paid $2 for 'Mania last night, I, too, am a little bummed I didn't get to see that match.
And I would be even MORE bummed if I actually paid $65 dollars and didn't get what was advertised (in addition to 'Mania being a terrible show altogether).
And the WWE wonder why buyrates are down...it's just not worth the money when A) They don't give people what they promise and B) The shows are just not entertaining enough to warrant the huge price tag.
Next year's 'Mania will be really interesting. Vince already used his Rock and Stone Cold cards...'Taker is practically dead...and he's too scared to make any major changes (turn Cena heel, actually push someone new, etc.)....what will he do?
My wife asked me before we fell asleep, "you think you got what you paid for"? Sadly, the answer is no. Now, if RAW ends up being 2x the show that Mania was ... I'd be pissed.
What should happen is they'd start a program with Cena-Rock now, have Cena get distracted by another threat (be it Miz or somebody else), and somehow write Rock off in a way that says "I'll be back." Then the storyline stays on the backburner until Rock comes out of nowhere to eliminate Cena from the Royal Rumble, setting up a Rock vs. Cena headliner for Wrestlemania 28, culminating a 14 month storyline.Brinbe said:
It's really the only thing they can do with it. You can't give away Cena-Rock at Extreme Rules or some shit like that, and I just don't think Summerslam is going to work schedule-wise.
Of course, this is all based on logic. Which is hardly WWE Creative's strong suit.
The Elite
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Fourth Storm said:Not sure if you're aware, but the WHC does not have a lineage going back to the NWA titles, despite the fact that the belt looks the same (it does seem a bit smaller and more yellow, but maybe that's just me). All the NWA/WCW history was merged into the WWE title when Chris Jericho became unified champ.
Didn't know it wasn't exactly the same belt. Still, I feel there is a lot more history with that WHC title. Also, it just looks better. The Unified title was a fantastic idea, but I still don't recognize the WWE Title as carrying any of the lineage tha the WHC title has. They should just unify the belts anyways.
Green Goblin
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Wait, Snooki too?!
MTV-MANIA more like it. Damn, WWE, find your own characters.
Call me when they reassemble NWO.
NWO 4 LIFE
MTV-MANIA more like it. Damn, WWE, find your own characters.
Call me when they reassemble NWO.
NWO 4 LIFE
Dork Knight
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sajj316 said:
Yeah...the WWE really had a chance to bring back new viewers based on the interest of the Rock and Stone Cold by putting on an amazing show.
Instead, they put on a really, really bad show that will no doubt remind the people who bought the PPV why they stopped watching in the first place.
Good product keeps people paying.
Bad product keeps people away.
Seems easy, right?
sf2fanatic
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JdFoX187 said:
I know Cody did an awesome job..One of his finest but I went based on the entire entrance promo..MIZ/CENA had Nas-pdiddy and Cena-DMX...Im alittle bias..sorry
x Power Pad Death Stomp x
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NYR said:
That makes me feel bad. Poor kid...hard to remember that children really are innocent at some point in their lives.
My friends and I were pretty vicious to the kids at the Wrestlemania party we were at. They were all "Cenanation" and we were rabid for the Miz. At some point after the Miz won someone ripped a homemade anti Miz sign off the wall and shredded it yelling "problem, little kids? Problem, fat chicks?"
I think there will be less alcohol at next years WM party.
Professor Beef
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Uh...Green Goblin said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-zhlw_hnGU
and then in TNA, there was "The Band"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txGQf9U8N10&feature=related
sf2fanatic
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JdFoX187 said:
True dat
What disappoint me too last night was Morrison and Kofi...
They didnt allow them to show more of their talent...
Shadowlink
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That part of the day must of been better than most of yesterday's Wrestlemania.eggybob said:
Spiderjericho
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Striker said:
Fuck that. Develop stars, so you don't have to rely upon Austin and Rock.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
So good
Kano on the Phone
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The Gaf wrasslin' thread turned into a Youtube comment channel so gradually I didn't even notice.Green Goblin said:
StealthGoblin
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Spider from Mars said:
Loved it. It was a sort of Phantom of the Opera/Jigsaw hybrid. Great match too. Delayed superplex was fantastic.
Develop a midcard and eventually have them become main event status. Instead, they put random instances for many guys in the main event, i.e. CM Punk years ago, and Jack Swagger last year, and both reigns failed because of WWE's incompetence. Then you have Ziggler, Morrison, and Kofi on the fringe of main event status facing perhaps Edge or Miz, and they just lean back and just ditch them into some nonsense at Mania. No planning prior. Why is it they only planned on giving proper build to just Cena and Michael Cole? Makes no damn sense. Look how they've treated Miz as champion. I honestly won't be surprised if he's back down to mediocrity by years end; with the way he gets booked, it is no wonder.Spiderjericho said:
Develop guys like Ziggler, Morrison, Kofi, etc. so we don't reply on Cena and Orton all the fucking time. They're the definition of stale.
Professor Beef
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"YOU HAVE NO HOPE."Spider from Mars said:
worldrunover
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As someone who decided to drop $65 on this thing, let me say first....
It's completely unacceptable that they cut the Sheamus/Bryan match. For people who enjoy watching WRESTLING, this may have been the match of the show and they just cut it out to give us hot garbage like Corre tag match and Cole/Lawler (which went on 10 minutes too long).
However, Trips/Taker was awesome. And I rather enjoyed the Punk/Orton match, it was definitely runner up match of the night. I think the WHC match and Cody/Rey matches were servicable, but not all that memorable.
The Miz/Cena match, I don't know what to think of it. I feel like they wanted to give the belt to Cena, but the Rock/Cena build up had been SO heavy that if the Rock DIDN'T put down Cena fans would have been pissed. So it seemed almost impromptu the way they made Cena lose the match. Interesting to see where it goes from here.
It's completely unacceptable that they cut the Sheamus/Bryan match. For people who enjoy watching WRESTLING, this may have been the match of the show and they just cut it out to give us hot garbage like Corre tag match and Cole/Lawler (which went on 10 minutes too long).
However, Trips/Taker was awesome. And I rather enjoyed the Punk/Orton match, it was definitely runner up match of the night. I think the WHC match and Cody/Rey matches were servicable, but not all that memorable.
The Miz/Cena match, I don't know what to think of it. I feel like they wanted to give the belt to Cena, but the Rock/Cena build up had been SO heavy that if the Rock DIDN'T put down Cena fans would have been pissed. So it seemed almost impromptu the way they made Cena lose the match. Interesting to see where it goes from here.
Seems Angle has claimed his twitter account was "hacked". Here are some of his tweets.
source: lordsofpain.net
"To anyone I upset, I am sorry. I didn't watch W-mania last night. I DID get a lot of tweets during Show. About Orton, Swagger,etc.Who cares?"
"I think the whole thing is Halarious. How I upset all of U amazes me.I don't read dirt sheets,but u heard they r upset.They're 'dirt' sheets."
"I Hope that W-mania was entertaining for all of You, especially 'The Rock'. Oh, and Orton-relax, I won't beat ur ass. You can use my move."
"2 Randy Orton's credit, I Heard He had the best match of the night. Good for You! Btw,I Never used Shamrock's finish while he still wrestled."
"There's a big difference to using a Finish somebody did b4 U, and is doing while U still Wrestle. The fact is, I don't care. Sorry everybody."
"Lastly,I just found out somebody hacked into my Twitter account.Most of those tweets weren't from me.I just found out today. I will find out."
"Who would do this? I don't know why somebody would pretend to be me. I apologize for the remarks. I'm not a twitter guy so I rarely use it."
"On a side note,Randy and I discussed the Angle Slam.I am happy Orton used my Finish.As he put it,imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
"Good Luck Randy. Thank You for reaching out to me!!!"
"Remember that Wrestlemania is an Event bigger than all of us. If You enjoyed it, great. That's most important. Social networking is a Bitch."
source: lordsofpain.net
"To anyone I upset, I am sorry. I didn't watch W-mania last night. I DID get a lot of tweets during Show. About Orton, Swagger,etc.Who cares?"
"I think the whole thing is Halarious. How I upset all of U amazes me.I don't read dirt sheets,but u heard they r upset.They're 'dirt' sheets."
"I Hope that W-mania was entertaining for all of You, especially 'The Rock'. Oh, and Orton-relax, I won't beat ur ass. You can use my move
.""2 Randy Orton's credit, I Heard He had the best match of the night. Good for You! Btw,I Never used Shamrock's finish while he still wrestled."
"There's a big difference to using a Finish somebody did b4 U, and is doing while U still Wrestle. The fact is, I don't care. Sorry everybody."
"Lastly,I just found out somebody hacked into my Twitter account.Most of those tweets weren't from me.I just found out today. I will find out."
"Who would do this? I don't know why somebody would pretend to be me. I apologize for the remarks. I'm not a twitter guy so I rarely use it."
"On a side note,Randy and I discussed the Angle Slam.I am happy Orton used my Finish.As he put it,imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
"Good Luck Randy. Thank You for reaching out to me!!!"
"Remember that Wrestlemania is an Event bigger than all of us. If You enjoyed it, great. That's most important. Social networking is a Bitch."
Spiderjericho
Member
Striker said:
Honestly, everything is a cycle. So, right now it seems like the WWE is repeating the early, mid 90s. The main event was usually Bret Hart/Yokozuna and maybe someone randomly thrown in.
And back then, they didn't have anyone to take over the reigns left by the departure of Ultimate Warrior and Hulk Hogan. Nor did they have Ricky Steamboat, Savage was on and off, etc.
I agree they should develop Rhodes, Ziggler, Morrison, Kofi, Barret (he was the top heel half a year ago), Daniels, etc.
It just seems like such shit now, but we'll all consume it.
worldrunover
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Kyoufu said:
It was a good match but I'm not sure where it was altogether different than every Rey match. Yes Cody dominated and got the win, that was nice, but the match itself I thought was you standard Rey match. I thought Punk/Orton was much more entertaining, which surprises even me, because I'm never entertained by Orton.
Cody and Rey were definitely the sleeper hit of the night, no doubt.
As far as Orton/Punk, I would say it was one of Randals best matches. People here dog him all the time, but he did good work there.
Biggest disappointment for me was the Cole match. I guess I was stupid thinking Cole would actually put some effort into it. Couldn't he have learned at least a few wrestling moves? Shit.
He didn't even get much of beating. No pile driver. No chair shot. No going through a table.
Like I said before, at least Vince can take an ass whooping.
As far as Orton/Punk, I would say it was one of Randals best matches. People here dog him all the time, but he did good work there.
Biggest disappointment for me was the Cole match. I guess I was stupid thinking Cole would actually put some effort into it. Couldn't he have learned at least a few wrestling moves? Shit.
He didn't even get much of beating. No pile driver. No chair shot. No going through a table.
Like I said before, at least Vince can take an ass whooping.
Spiderjericho
Member
sajj316 said:
Is this like the time he used Twitter a few weeks ago (which he says he doesn't use) and claimed he was in a snow bank, not under the influence, etc?
These guys are stars and need to really watch or have a filter for what they post on social networking sites.
worldrunover
Member
Kyoufu said:
LOL Ok, so I was entertained by Punk. And Punk put on a great show. But I'll still give Orton some of the credit.
sajj316 said:Seems Angle has claimed his twitter account was "hacked". Here are some of his tweets.
source: lordsofpain.net
"To anyone I upset, I am sorry. I didn't watch W-mania last night. I DID get a lot of tweets during Show. About Orton, Swagger,etc.Who cares?"
"I think the whole thing is Halarious. How I upset all of U amazes me.I don't read dirt sheets,but u heard they r upset.They're 'dirt' sheets."
"I Hope that W-mania was entertaining for all of You, especially 'The Rock'. Oh, and Orton-relax, I won't beat ur ass. You can use my move
"2 Randy Orton's credit, I Heard He had the best match of the night. Good for You! Btw,I Never used Shamrock's finish while he still wrestled."
"There's a big difference to using a Finish somebody did b4 U, and is doing while U still Wrestle. The fact is, I don't care. Sorry everybody."
"Lastly,I just found out somebody hacked into my Twitter account.Most of those tweets weren't from me.I just found out today. I will find out."
"Who would do this? I don't know why somebody would pretend to be me. I apologize for the remarks. I'm not a twitter guy so I rarely use it."
"On a side note,Randy and I discussed the Angle Slam.I am happy Orton used my Finish.As he put it,imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
"Good Luck Randy. Thank You for reaching out to me!!!"
"Remember that Wrestlemania is an Event bigger than all of us. If You enjoyed it, great. That's most important. Social networking is a Bitch."
Yeah Angle, and you were just sitting in the intersection relaxing too.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Striker said:
This is their huge problem right now. WWE has two career paths:
1) Instantly elevated to main event status within a few months of debut
2) Linger around in the lower to mid-card before being future endeavored.
It's very rare to see somebody who doesn't fit those any more.
cena's never turning heelsumo390 said:
there were legions of kids smaller than that decked out in purple in the house show i went to last month. me and my friend stopped booing and chanting cena sucks/swallows after awhile cause we were getting teary eyed looks from all around us
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