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Are Developers Embracing Nintendo's Next-Gen Vision?

I'm not sure why people bitch about moving your arms so much. I can play Pop'n Music for an hour and it doesn't make me tired. Stop being sissies.
 
Can't we interview people that actually have kits and the controller?
Maybe even people with actual games in development...?

Hey, at least that way, subtle hints will actually be... ya know, HINTS.
And not conjecture and speculation.
 
Mrbob said:
Look at the powerhouses involved in this discussion:

Tom Fulp, co-founder of The Behemoth
Randy Pitchford, president of Gearbox Software
Karthik Bala, CEO of Vicarious Visions
Geremy Mustard, co-founder of Chair Entertainment Group
Eric Holmes, lead game designer at Radical Entertainment
Chris Charla, executive producer at Foundation 9 Entertainment

You will say, "Wow."

:lol

NINTARDS AM OWNED TOTAL

I suppose its great to see a bunch of executives at C level developers talk about systems but I need the meat of the development industry: the Square-Enixs, the Konamis, etc. to convince me. No pillow talk, no circle jerks, no 'YAH THIS SYSTEM MAKE YOU GO "WOW" LOL'. I want to see some shit announced. Remember, even developers praised the Dreamcast but when push came to shove, nothing was announced.
 
Oh people talking in another 1-up Rev circle-jerk? Talk is very cheap in this case. Devs can be just as fanboyish as all of us here at GAF, theyre not all powerful objective creatures beyond our time and space.

Sounds like devs are still just as clueless about the Rev as ever. splendid! Nintendo must represent THE biggest risk for a developer right now, due to them either choosing X360 and being able to start making money right now, invest in the sure-thing; PS3, or commit resources to preparing a game for an unproven market, for a console everyone knows very little about, and from the company that placed 3rd this generation with 3rd party sales reaching an alltime low on their machine as it scrapes along in its deathspin.

But hey, at least theyre talking about how awesome it could possibly be maybe perhaps!
 
The Experiment said:
:lol

NINTARDS AM OWNED TOTAL

I suppose its great to see a bunch of executives at C level developers talk about systems but I need the meat of the development industry: the Square-Enixs, the Konamis, etc. to convince me. No pillow talk, no circle jerks, no 'YAH THIS SYSTEM MAKE YOU GO "WOW" LOL'. I want to see some shit announced. Remember, even developers praised the Dreamcast but when push came to shove, nothing was announced.
You talk as if the 'meat of the development industry' hasn't already spoken on the Rev controller.

Guess what? They have, and it is overwhelmingly positive. Do you know which superstars shared the stage with Iwata at the TGS when he revealed the controller? Do you? Do you know what they had to say? If not - STFU.
 
John Harker said:
Can't we interview people that actually have kits and the controller?
Maybe even people with actual games in development...?

Hey, at least that way, subtle hints will actually be... ya know, HINTS.
And not conjecture and speculation.

NDAs suck don't they? Unfortunetely, we won't be hearing real comments on games for quite some time. We may hear game announcements but no details until Nintendo is ready.

It's not a coincidence that the people they interviewed don't normally develop for Nintendo consoles. The real devs, EA, Capcom, Konami, Sega simply aren't allowed to. I'm thinking the people who they interviewed are not official revolution devs yet so they are still able to disclose what they think about the rev.
 
Gaia Theory said:
You talk as if the 'meat of the development industry' hasn't already spoken on the Rev controller.

Guess what? They have, and it is overwhelmingly positive. Do you know which superstars shared the stage with Iwata at the TGS when he revealed the controller? Do you? Do you know what they had to say? If not - STFU.

Ahahahahahhahahahahhahaha

Like I said, I want to see some shit announced. The developers are just making lip service. No developer is dumb enough to count out an entire system unless its automatically destined for failure like Gizmondo. Thats why you saw Squaresoft buying Dreamcast development kits and making positive comments about it.
 
The Experiment said:
Ahahahahahhahahahahhahaha

Like I said, I want to see some shit announced. The developers are just making lip service. No developer is dumb enough to count out an entire system unless its automatically destined for failure like Gizmondo. Thats why you saw Squaresoft buying Dreamcast development kits and making positive comments about it.
Don't we all. :)

How you can go from saying what I have bolded in your post, and in the next sentence assume that 'the developers are just making lip service' is beyond me.
 
Square Enix, Activision, EA, Ubisoft, and Konami have already said they are working on Revolution titles, so the big publishers are there. But...when will they say something? This idea that Nintendo has NDAs and doesn't want people to talk is nonsense, espcially the bs about Capcom and RE5 (Capcom didn't say crap about the Revolution after the controller was revealed like many other developers did, so just let that weak rumor die).
 
Wow the hate is strong in this thread. Maybe it's the fault of the Ntards for getting over excited in this thread. I mean look at them! They're flipping out!
 
Luckett_X said:
Oh people talking in another 1-up Rev circle-jerk? Talk is very cheap in this case. Devs can be just as fanboyish as all of us here at GAF, theyre not all powerful objective creatures beyond our time and space.

Sounds like devs are still just as clueless about the Rev as ever. splendid! Nintendo must represent THE biggest risk for a developer right now, due to them either choosing X360 and being able to start making money right now, invest in the sure-thing; PS3, or commit resources to preparing a game for an unproven market, for a console everyone knows very little about, and from the company that placed 3rd this generation with 3rd party sales reaching an alltime low on their machine as it scrapes along in its deathspin.

But hey, at least theyre talking about how awesome it could possibly be maybe perhaps!


Another positive post about Nintendo from Luckett_x... :lol :lol
 
Revolution is a risk opportunity not merely just a risk.
The new systems will be every bit a risk, and possibly more of a risk, to many developers. Especially the less proven ones.
 
I like the part where more and more developers keep prasing Nintendo and the Revolution, and the Xbox360 and PS3 only get trashed.

New Era my friends.
 
Well, so far, Nintendo's Next-Gen Vision is to have a lot of conjecture and little physical evidence to support it.

So, based on this article, I'd say yes.
 
The Ntards sure have been out-of-control this week. It's a good thing that Driny, mrbob, speevy, luckett, experiment and the rest wasted no time putting them in their place. OMG, something positive was almost said about the Revolution!!!!!


One thing I don't understand about the Revolution bashing from the Xbot is why are you calling it the "Gamecube 1.5"? That was a Sony bash on the 360, turning it on Nintendo is just misdirected.
 
The Experiment said:
It is when nothing is announced on it yet they are jizzing their pants over it.

If you look at every question they asked, they all mention a negative aspect of the revolution (no HD, possibility of only mini-games, shorter games, tired arms etc) so just quit the unnecessary trolling.

This bash everything related to Nintendo (and even Microsoft lately) is really annoying.
 
koam said:
NDAs suck don't they? Unfortunetely, we won't be hearing real comments on games for quite some time. We may hear game announcements but no details until Nintendo is ready.

It's not a coincidence that the people they interviewed don't normally develop for Nintendo consoles. The real devs, EA, Capcom, Konami, Sega simply aren't allowed to. I'm thinking the people who they interviewed are not official revolution devs yet so they are still able to disclose what they think about the rev.

I forgot who said it in an interview - Iwata or Miyamoto perhaps? - but wasnt it said that for games, it is now totally in the third parties hands. That they can announce or promote their titles however they see fit for the Rev now? I'm sure some things - like the specs - are to be kept under NDA wraps, but I was under the impression developrs can speak freely about their own projects now - just not nintendo first party themselves.

I was expecting SOME announcments/news prior to Q1.
 
The Experiment said:
It is when nothing is announced on it yet they are jizzing their pants over it.
It's when people are having a discussion and you enter to troll the living shit out of the thread you don't even have an opionion on the matter that's being discussed you just enter start trolling at least Mrbob contributes to the thread, all you do is

"LOLZ NTARDS AM RETARDS LOLZ REVOLUTION BOMB HAHAHHAHAHA"
 
Error2k4 said:
It's when people are having a discussion and you enter to troll the living shit out of the thread you don't even have an opionion on the matter that's being discussed you just enter start trolling at least Mrbob contributes to the thread, all you do is

"LOLZ NTARDS AM RETARDS LOLZ REVOLUTION BOMB HAHAHHAHAHA"

So?
 
The Experiment said:
Ahahahahahhahahahahhahaha

Like I said, I want to see some shit announced. The developers are just making lip service. No developer is dumb enough to count out an entire system unless its automatically destined for failure like Gizmondo. Thats why you saw Squaresoft buying Dreamcast development kits and making positive comments about it.

We already know Mikami is working on a Revolution game.
 
John Harker said:
I forgot who said it in an interview - Iwata or Miyamoto perhaps? - but wasnt it said that for games, it is now totally in the third parties hands. That they can announce or promote their titles however they see fit for the Rev now? I'm sure some things - like the specs - are to be kept under NDA wraps, but I was under the impression developrs can speak freely about their own projects now - just not nintendo first party themselves.

I was expecting SOME announcments/news prior to Q1.

Yeah it was Merrick (spelling?), but I'm fairly certain that we won't see anything until Nintendo spills the beans first.
 
I think what Error is trying to say is that all Nintendo topics should be devoid of all negativity or criticism.

Essentially he wants there to be a seperate Nintendo Circle-Jerk forum which can be the center of meaningless speculation and non-info forever/until 3rd party!
 
The Experiment said:
Definitely Nintards.

Judging by all the posts in this thread, you appear to be the person with the most mentally challenged responses and you've contributed to nothing in terms of discussion. You don't like Nintendo, so why did you enter this thread? It's not like this thread would have magically changed your opinion about them. So do us all a favor, and stick to threads that match your tastes.
 
Mrbob said:
Look at the powerhouses involved in this discussion:

Tom Fulp, co-founder of The Behemoth
Randy Pitchford, president of Gearbox Software
Karthik Bala, CEO of Vicarious Visions
Geremy Mustard, co-founder of Chair Entertainment Group
Eric Holmes, lead game designer at Radical Entertainment
Chris Charla, executive producer at Foundation 9 Entertainment

in the tradition Project Reality's "Dream Team"
 
Luckett_X said:
I think what Error is trying to say is that all Nintendo topics should be devoid of all negativity or criticism.

Essentially he wants there to be a seperate Nintendo Circle-Jerk forum which can be the center of meaningless speculation and non-info forever/until 3rd party!

LOL.
 
elostyle said:
How can a thread about positive statements become so negative as a whole? :(

It started with the IQ drop in post #53 and has went downhill since.

Coming in and calling us "Nintards" is a great way of making friends.
 
Tyrone Slothrop said:
in the tradition Project Reality's "Dream Team"

What does it matter? Sure, nearly everyone in the Dream Team turned out to be worthless, but Rare and Nintendo pretty much were in control anyhow.
 
i bring up the 'dream team' in jest.

im pretty sure nintendo would never tout a team like that so highly again. but in retrospect it was kind of funny. i mean, a dream team would= square, konami et al
 
elostyle said:
How can a thread about positive statements become so negative as a whole? :(

Look no further than people like XBots and Sonybots.

fartblast said:
well seeing as they don't care about a gimmicky controller i guess so

They cared enough to click on this thread and reply to it.
 
Luckett_X said:
I think what Error is trying to say is that all Nintendo topics should be devoid of all negativity or criticism.

Essentially he wants there to be a seperate Nintendo Circle-Jerk forum which can be the center of meaningless speculation and non-info forever/until 3rd party!
right let's look at your post history

Luckett_X said:
In a thread questioning whether Nintendo is smart or not for not revealing the systems power at all, it seems they dont have to ever if their mindslaves already know after receiving telepathic information direct from the hive.

Seriously, stop your shit.

I don't think the kid deserved to be banned for this thread, but the recent explosion of Nintendumb posts does seem a bit much so I guess maybe he is an example or something.
Luckett_X said:
Notice the irony that I can call it shit, you can call it Christ's Second Coming in Wi-Fi form, and its all just internet shit flinging until its actually penetrated my DS's little wi-fi hole.
Luckett_X said:
I often ponder if N-bots (and other terrorfying fanslaves for each console) need games at all. Sales figures seem to be far more playable to them, as opposed to actual games.

Do you want Nintendo to focus on more Brain Training games and even less interactive pets, or do you want bigger adventures and some new fantastic IP's with fresh characters and innovfative gameplay?

Unless you have stocks in Nintendo, I simply can't fathom why you're all so happy an absolutely shit game is selling so well.

Nintendo needs to make their own Segagaga game at this stage, since the hive would probably orgasm honey for 52 weeks straight.
Luckett_X said:
Hey cool, maybe Factor5 will really get to grips with the Rev's power then..........oh, no wait!

But hey, RE4 looked really good. I'm sure RE5 on Rev will.........oh....shit.

I'm down.
this is why I said you are so predictible, all of those posts are from nintendo related thread s you have posted. change your act a little so people don't get bored with your replies.
 
Oh shit! I've just been Columbo'd!

Predictably this is the 4th or 5th time you've whined about me. Anyway, the circle-jerk seems to have gone all bitter. I'll back out now and send the cleaner in to mop up in about half an hour, k?
 
moku said:
That looks about right to me.

Wow. Last time I heard anyone use a retard joke was back in Elementary. Pretty much sums up the crap err I mean crop of Nintard intelligence or lack thereof.

Sonybots and Xbots are obviously more mature amirite?

Yeah, thats right actually.

Judging by all the posts in this thread, you appear to be the person with the most mentally challenged responses and you've contributed to nothing in terms of discussion. You don't like Nintendo, so why did you enter this thread? It's not like this thread would have magically changed your opinion about them. So do us all a favor, and stick to threads that match your tastes.

I don't like Nintendo? Where did you get that impression?

Coming in and calling us "Nintards" is a great way of making friends.

Looking at this objectively, my choices are to be:

1) With the Nintard hive, claim everything Nintendo does is so fucking awesome and bash anyone who thinks different.
2) Become the guys Nintards hate.

I'll stick with #2. I like Nintendo but it will be a cold day in hell when I associate with Nintards. Not all Nintendo fans are Nintards, for the record.
 
Developers will support Nintendo's vision when Nintendo releases some uber-revolutionary game or something crazy like that.
 
Luckett_X said:
Oh shit! I've just been Columbo'd!

Predictably this is the 4th or 5th time you've whined about me. Anyway, the circle-jerk seems to have gone all bitter. I'll back out now and send the cleaner in to mop up in about half an hour, k?

You're really hung up on that circle jerk, huh? You know, if you really wanted in you could have just asked. There's a chance somebody here might have wanted to stroke your penis--assuming they could find it.
 
littlewig said:
Geez, these trolls get of free, hell, they get congratulated.

If I pull this shit at a Xbox360 thread, I get banned. -_-

If you're talking to me, I haven't been congratulated. The problem is that Nintendo isn't worth the hype they're receiving. When someone suggests even the remote possibility of that conclusion, Nintards are on them like flies on shit.

Developers will support Nintendo's vision when Nintendo releases some uber-revolutionary game or something crazy like that.

Developers will support them if there's enough profit to be had. Thats why all we're hearing is mostly lip service, few games announced. No developer is going to count out Revolution. If Revolution actually does well, its business suicide. EA's stocks dropped 25% when Dreamcast was a success because they were the only third party to say they weren't considering the Dreamcast. Development studios are businesses.
 
The Experiment said:
Developers will support them if there's enough profit to be had. Thats why all we're hearing is mostly lip service, few games announced. No developer is going to count out Revolution. If Revolution actually does well, its business suicide. EA's stocks dropped 25% when Dreamcast was a success because they were the only third party to say they weren't considering the Dreamcast. Development studios are businesses.

I would think the industry is viable enough to support 3 major consoles, though. Also including 2 major handhelds in the mix... throw in the PC though that's somewhat different landscape in a sense.

Yeah, granted everything is lip service just now. I think it'll all be worth it once the console launches, though.
 
JavyOO7 said:
I would think the industry is viable enough to support 3 major consoles, though. Also including 2 major handhelds in the mix... throw in the PC though that's somewhat different landscape in a sense.

Yeah, granted everything is lip service just now. I think it'll all be worth it once the console launches, though.

The market is big enough. Its been growing every year. I could see it drop next year only because people will be getting new machines and the cost of software is too high for anyone to buy lots of games.

I think we'll see a lot of "wait and see" approaches with Nintendo when it comes to the major developers, the ones that will be investing millions of dollars per game. They might announce a game and when its released, how it will do is how supportive they will be in the future. A lot like Game Cube.
 
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