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Are you afraid that WW3 might happen?

Not afraid. Not really thinking about it too much.

also not trying to be flippant about it, I just think this administration is the most “wait and see” admin ever. Trump says/does something, people fucking freak out, and it never really ends up being that bad imo
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
I don't think so. The last world war didn't just start because nations were pissed off at each other, the world was a lot different place back then. The world back then, especially in Europe was at a major turning point, and nations were pursuing expansion and territorial control. Not just Germany. It took a perfect storm of events, motivations, previous wars, among other things to lead to WW2. And this was before nukes were introduced into the picture which is a big deterrent for global-sized conflicts.
 

Fabieter

Member
I was about to start a thread on this topic when I stumbled across this. How likely do you think World War III is to happen? I have a feeling that certain financial and political entities or institutions won’t stop until they achieve it. It’s seriously alarming.

I believe that diplomacy is always the right approach, yet some people clearly demonstrate that they have no intention of pursuing it.
 

FunkMiller

Member
I was about to start a thread on this topic when I stumbled across this. How likely do you think World War III is to happen? I have a feeling that certain financial and political entities or institutions won’t stop until they achieve it. It’s seriously alarming.

I believe that diplomacy is always the right approach, yet some people clearly demonstrate that they have no intention of pursuing it.

And in what specific situations do you think 'diplomacy' should be used, instead of combat?

I'm sure you have one.
 

XXL

Member
No. You don't want to find out why the US spends almost 1 trillion a year on their military.

No one wants that smoke.
 
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FunkMiller

Member
Sadly there is more than one which has the potential to get global. Obviously sane people don't want either to escalate.

So should certain parties accept some sort of 'diplomatic' solution that greatly undermines their own future and safety, in order for the rest of us to feel safe?
 

NecrosaroIII

Ultimate DQ Fan
I believe that diplomacy is always the right approach, yet some people clearly demonstrate that they have no intention of pursuing it.
Diplomacy is the preferable route for sure, but if it were that easy then it would be used all the time.

There are red lines. Too often the matter is existential for at least one side. If your country is invaded because another country wants your stuff, no amount of diplomacy will make them go away short of allowing yourself to be annexed, or your country pillaged.

Nations have a right to defend themselves
 

Durien

Member
Not at all worried myself tho I wouldn’t put it past the media and establishment Dems to cheerlead a war in order to make Trump look bad. That is my real nightmare scenario, we end up with Biden trying to out Warhawk him in debates.

The consequences of war have no impact on my generation and younger. It was boomers and gen x that were forced into voluntary service via the draft, we can only see war from a place of privilege compared to them. My mom knew the kids shot at Kent State, at a peaceful anti war protest, killed by the National guard. My dad knew some kids who were potheads who got snitched on by a jealous acquaintance and they were arrested and sent to Vietnam where they died in combat. For us, this generation, in the US, it is a thing experienced mostly thru heroic movies about war and conquest, sides represented by space Nazis and super hero’s. Consumer wars are the only thing we care about.

My personal politics is anti war in general. I think we are better off spending our money on the people who actually live in this country.
I am gen x and we were never drafted. I did spend 4 years in the military though to pay for college. Lol I used a small bit then dropped out to go into tech.
 

Atrus

Gold Member
With the recent conflicts I can understand why it would come up, but none of the belligerents today have the same kind of expeditionary capacity as Japan or Germany. Russia, Iran and North Korea all have pathetic conventional armies.

“Diplomacy” with fascist imperialists like Russia doesn’t work as all they see is a weakness to exploit.
 
Yes, I am. Escalations are happening.

Biden authorizes use of US missile system in Ukraine. Ukraine (for the first time) fires US-supplied longer-range missiles at a target inside Russian territory, then this 👇 happens.

I could do without the "WW3 is here" comment, but this is still concerning:

 

FunkMiller

Member
Yes, I am. Escalations are happening.

Biden authorizes use of US missile system in Ukraine. Ukraine (for the first time) fires US-supplied longer-range missiles at a target inside Russian territory, then this 👇 happens.

I could do without the "WW3 is here" comment, but this is still concerning:



Putin the goatfucker has repeatedly whined about his 'red lines' over and over during the last few years. Every one has been crossed. He's done nothing with his 'terrifying nuclear arsenal' in response.

He's a paper tiger, and the endless hand wringing and cowardice from so many western commentators and politicians is frankly sickening. Slava Ukrani.
 
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Warspite

Member
Nope.

No. You don't want to find out why the US spends almost 1 trillion a year on their military.

No one wants that smoke.

And there it is, I don't think some people quite comprehend the military power of the States or what a trillion dollar's is/gets you. (I don't think I do, those sorts of number are difficult for individuals to understand)

Russia is not starting anything after what they have lost in Ukraine and considering they have lost it to a half hearted effort's by the West and done by stuff in the back of warehouses for the last 30 years, like I said they are not starting anything.
 
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Fabieter

Member
Diplomacy is the preferable route for sure, but if it were that easy then it would be used all the time.

There are red lines. Too often the matter is existential for at least one side. If your country is invaded because another country wants your stuff, no amount of diplomacy will make them go away short of allowing yourself to be annexed, or your country pillaged.

Nations have a right to defend themselves

As a German we faced one of the harshest peace treaties after World War I, and the consequences were truly staggering. The losses—territorial, economic, and political—were immense, and the demands placed on the country seemed almost punitive. What's more, no enemy forces had even set foot on German soil, which makes the terms of the Treaty of Versailles feel all the more severe. Despite this, I still believe it was the right decision to bring an end to the bloodshed and suffering across the world. Ending the war was necessary, no matter how unfair the aftermath may seem in hindsight.

But I still agree that's its not easy. But to excuse this with more war and more killing should never be the answer especially since there are always very few people actually benefiting from war. Propaganda plays a key role on all sides for making your people believe that the killing is still worth it.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
No I don't think we're on the gusp of WW3 simply because I'm not a fucking idiot like that cunt Joe Rogan and all the other stupid cunts who fall for Russian Propaganda, it absolutely boggles my mind that sooo many people are sooo fucking moronic and can't see the obvious signs that Russia is hurting and therefore ramping up the rhetoric across all mediums in order to sway the Muppets in the west to put pressure on their equally Muppet politicians to force Ukraine to the negotiating table and nake concessions to Putin.

It is beyond my comprehension that so many Americans are siding with fucking Russia and have fell for this shit, makes me beyond angry
 

Fabieter

Member
No I don't think we're on the gusp of WW3 simply because I'm not a fucking idiot like that cunt Joe Rogan and all the other stupid cunts who fall for Russian Propaganda, it absolutely boggles my mind that sooo many people are sooo fucking moronic and can't see the obvious signs that Russia is hurting and therefore ramping up the rhetoric across all mediums in order to sway the Muppets in the west to put pressure on their equally Muppet politicians to force Ukraine to the negotiating table and nake concessions to Putin.

It is beyond my comprehension that so many Americans are siding with fucking Russia and have fell for this shit, makes me beyond angry

Well its not just the russia ukraine conflict. It's china and middle east aswell that could very well explode to get global.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Well its not just the russia ukraine conflict. It's china and middle east aswell that could very well explode to get global.
China has 1.4bil people and imports pretty much everything to keep them fed and the lights on, they're not about to goto war and risk a total collapse as for the Middle East, with the orange monkey elected no one is gonna seriously fuck with Israel knowing full well that you declare war on the Jews you declare war on the Yanks and they've all seen the state the Americans leave the middle east in, these are regional conflicts and they'll stay regional conflicts
 

gow3isben

Member
If you take nukes out of the equation if I had to guess I would say the US could singlehandedly defeat all of Europe and Russia combined in an all out brawl they are so far above the competition. Heck throw africa and the rest of the americas on the opposing side even.

China and India are the ones which give me pause due to sheer numbers and technical growth.
 
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Fabieter

Member
China has 1.4bil people and imports pretty much everything to keep them fed and the lights on, they're not about to goto war and risk a total collapse as for the Middle East, with the orange monkey elected no one is gonna seriously fuck with Israel knowing full well that you declare war on the Jews you declare war on the Yanks and they've all seen the state the Americans leave the middle east in, these are regional conflicts and they'll stay regional conflicts

Well I hope you are right but I argued the same stuff before Russia went into Ukraine. I was 100% sure they wouldn't do it but he we are.
 

Warspite

Member
Well I hope you are right but I argued the same stuff before Russia went into Ukraine. I was 100% sure they wouldn't do it but he we are.

All dictators are in essence gamblers, they take advantage when they think the odds are in their favor. America looked weak under if current leadership and current climate, Russia gambled the West wouldn't intervene and lost that bet.
 

T-0800

Member
Yes, I am. Escalations are happening.

Biden authorizes use of US missile system in Ukraine. Ukraine (for the first time) fires US-supplied longer-range missiles at a target inside Russian territory, then this 👇 happens.

I could do without the "WW3 is here" comment, but this is still concerning:


Give me a break. That war can end tomorrow if Russia pack up and leave.
 

Fabieter

Member
Give me a break. That war can end tomorrow if Russia pack up and leave.

Imo there is no way to end this for both parties to save face hence my concern for further and further escalation.

All dictators are in essence gamblers, they take advantage when they think the odds are in their favor. America looked weak under if current leadership and current climate, Russia gambled the West wouldn't intervene and lost that bet.

Don't know. Conflicts are alot of times alot more complex than it seems.
 

Fabieter

Member
Putin could end it tomorrow and say that he accomplished his objective. No one in Russia would care.

Iam no expert on international law but I highly doubt the west would let him just retreat without harsh peace treaties. If that's the case than iam 100% with you. I dont care either way as long as this shit doesn't escalate any further.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
I’m pretty sure we’re already in WWIII, only not in the conventional sense of the previous two.

How else would you call the US, UK and EU versus Russia on the Eastern European border? We “donate” weapons, missiles, vehicles, airplanes, ammunition and huge amounts of money to a proxy who basically fights on our behalf at this point. There are deep strikes in both territories, drone strikes, cyber warfare. ICBM usage for the first time in history.

And that’s just Ukraine.
 
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RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
I’m pretty sure we’re already in WWIII, only not in the conventional sense of the previous two.

How else would you call the US, UK and EU versus Russia on the Eastern European border? We “donate” weapons, missiles, vehicles, airplanes, ammunition and huge amounts of money to a proxy who basically fights on our behalf at this point. There are deep strikes in both territories, drone strikes, cyber warfare. ICBM usage for the first time in history.

And that’s just Ukraine.
This is a regional conflicts and Putin keeps harping on about WW3 and ESCALATION in order to scare morons, even his ICBM strike was a OOOOO LOOK AT WHAT ILL DO nothing more, he's gambling the morons go oh shit he's fired an ICBM quick dust off the Defcon clock and set it to who gives a fuck
 

winjer

Gold Member
I’m pretty sure we’re already in WWIII, only not in the conventional sense of the previous two.

How else would you call the US, UK and EU versus Russia on the Eastern European border? We “donate” weapons, missiles, vehicles, airplanes, ammunition and huge amounts of money to a proxy who basically fights on our behalf at this point. There are deep strikes in both territories, drone strikes, cyber warfare. ICBM usage for the first time in history.

And that’s just Ukraine.

Not a world war. But we are in a Second Cold War.
 

Fabieter

Member
Not a world war. But we are in a Second Cold War.

This might be a good explanation. The military industrial complex gets money from regional wars and from all the country's which live in fear of global escalation. It's a win win for a few parties.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
I’m not worried. If it comes to nukes dropping then I’ll be vaporised. Where I live is definitely a top target for Russia if it wanted any chance of disabling the UK government and any nuclear response.

The unlucky bastards will be the ones who stand a chance of surviving. I don’t want to live through a nuclear war. If it really comes to it then just turn me to dust and get it over with.

I don’t think we’re living in WW3 right now and I don’t think it will come to it but it definitely feels like the most dangerous time I can remember in my life. I don’t know shit but I am aware anything could happen so who knows?

What I keep thinking is Putin can’t be that fucking stupid to start shit with the UK or US. Surely, right? He sounds like he’s all talk and we should call his bluff. The second he attacks the UK/US or any other NATO country then he is gonna be in for a real bad time.
 

Alandring

Member
Honestly, I'm not afraid at all about a WW3, but I'm afraid that the fear of a WW3 lead occidental countries to accept everything from China/Russia: Ukraine, Taiwan, Moldova and so on.
 

jufonuk

not tag worthy
I don’t know. I really hope not.

Half of me thinks Russia doesn’t have the equipment to fight more than one me country seeing as Ukraine has held them off for so long.
Putin also had to draft in North Koreans to help fight. Taken drones from Iran and weapons from North Korea. Plus when they rolled into Ukraine it was with a lot of older tech.

Now other western tech has an involved it seems to have hurt them more.
So Putin responded with this new missile.
The hypersonic missile footage looks speed up? I don’t know. It damaged a building I didn’t hear that it killed anyone.

On the other hand Russia is massive Putin can hide anywhere and has a fuck ton of nukes.
 
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Mistake

Member
I’m not worried. If it comes to nukes dropping then I’ll be vaporised. Where I live is definitely a top target for Russia if it wanted any chance of disabling the UK government and any nuclear response.

The unlucky bastards will be the ones who stand a chance of surviving. I don’t want to live through a nuclear war. If it really comes to it then just turn me to dust and get it over with.

I don’t think we’re living in WW3 right now and I don’t think it will come to it but it definitely feels like the most dangerous time I can remember in my life. I don’t know shit but I am aware anything could happen so who knows?

What I keep thinking is Putin can’t be that fucking stupid to start shit with the UK or US. Surely, right? He sounds like he’s all talk and we should call his bluff. The second he attacks the UK/US or any other NATO country then he is gonna be in for a real bad time.
Recently I saw news that france is thinking about striking russia as well. I don't know what the deal with that is. But if Russia gets pissed, you can be assured that china will get involved as well somehow. Point of the matter is, this needs to deescalate soon, or we'll all be in for a bad time. A cornered animal will still fight back
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
I don’t know. I really hope not.

Half of me thinks Russia doesn’t have the equipment to fight more than one me country seeing as Ukraine has held them off for so long.
Putin also had to draft in North Koreans to help fight. Taken drones from Iran and weapons from North Korea. Plus when they rolled into Ukraine it was with a lot of older tech.

Now other western tech has an involved it seems to have hurt them more.
So Putin responded with this new missile.
The hypersonic missile footage looks speed up? I don’t know. It damaged a building I didn’t hear that it killed anyone.

On the other hand Russia is massive Putin can hide anywhere and has a fuck ton of nukes.
The only thing stopping Putin from losing is his complete and utter disregard for the lives of his fellow countrymen, if Ukraine where given everything they needed without constraints (imposed on them by the fucking Americans) this war would be over, as it is they've been drip fed just enough to hold off and not cause a total collapse of the russian state, the fact that he has to go cap in hand to the North Koreans of all people shows just how utterly fucking inept Russia is
 

Trilobit

Member
I honestly have no idea. People before WW2 did not anticipate another Great War taking place after the destruction of WW1. In the end of the day people can rattle off a multitude of reasons that WW3 won't happen and yet it can start next year and be in full bloom in 2026 and we'll have historians in 2030 mentioning all the factors that lead to a third world war. Just because we can't imagine what it would look like and if it would be with or without nuclear weapons doesn't mean that the irrationality, hidden reasons or secret propagators behind it don't exist.
 
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Hookshot

Member
It isn't world war 3 or even cold war 2, it's just Russia being twats because they are in no way relevant any more and they can't handle that.
 
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