ARROW |OT| Green Arrow TV series on CW
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Barrowman's in the season two cast, role so far unknown
In Comic Con (one of them), they mentioned that
he will have plenty of potential in flashbacks -.-"
I agree with this, seeing Ironman and RDJ preform in it was a nice breath of fresh air for the comic book heroes and I'm glad RDJ kept to that tone throughout the franchise. Now, seing IM is the biggest Avengers property Marvel has thanks to the well done first film they probably decided to keep the franchise tonally consistent with Tony Stark's character so that he wouldn't have to be too toned down in the proper Avengers film. I think these are all fine choices, just wonder how it'll affect Thor 2 and CA2 seeing that Thor had some funny moments but CA was completely different from the tone perspective to all other Marvel movies. The other movie that really differed from the rest of the franchise was The Incredible Hulk but that can be forgiven since that was really the first movie to come out. Still, TIH looks more like a DC movie based on the tone they used in it.
I'm glad that there is this difference between the two brands and I think they do fit their superheroes rather well. I can't imagine a dark Tony Stark or Thor just the same as I can't imagine a witty Batman or Superman. I think the tones fit their franchises. My personal preference is for DC's approach simply because I enjoy the more 'realistic' approach and would not be as interested in Arrow, for example, if it was a quirky and witty TV show.
ArrowGAF, I literally just finished watching the Season 1 finale :O What a magnificent show! I bought the season on bluray when it released but only just got around to watching it on Thursday. LOVED IT!
I looked up some information online though, and I'm not sure I'm happy with how they're casting the Black Canary and not making it an accurate representation of the DCU. Also, because I'm sure that would cause trouble for Oliver's "current" relationship.
I looked up some information online though, and I'm not sure I'm happy with how they're casting the Black Canary and not making it an accurate representation of the DCU. Also, because I'm sure that would cause trouble for Oliver's "current" relationship.
From what I gather there isn't much in this show that's an accurate representation of the DCU. Laurel isn't accurate to the comics, Deathstroke isn't accurate to the comics, Felicity isn't accurate to the comics, Merlyn isn't accurate to the comics, Fryer, Shado, Yao Fei, Count Vertigo, all those villains of the week they take from DC. And don't the comics have like different universes and resets and New 52 bullshits that change the characters anyway? So the comics aren't even consistent.
I imagine Tommy's death already killed that relationship. The new Black Canary will just throw some dirt over its carcass.
But don't worry, the showrunner has said his goal for Laurel and Oliver's relationship is to perpetually break them up and get them back together throughout the show.
Just like every other show out there, huh?
Either way, it's one of those rare shows where the majority of the cast is likeable.
Funky Papa
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Specially now that Tommy the Simp is dead.
Every other show with garbage relationship melodrama, sure.
What can I say, I'm a sucker for this stuff.
Heh. Fair enough.
You seem to be just about the only one.
Yeah, that's pretty much not a team.
Nope, you can count me on that boat.
They've spent a majority of the show implying that Laurel was a big focus for Ollie when he was on the island. Feels like it would be a big cop out if when all is said and done (end of series, etc) that they don't end up with each other.
Who exactly are you guys rooting for? Felicity?
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And Thea.
It's unfortunate that ship doesn't seem to sail particularly well.
Edit: But my mind is already finding ways to make a Thea + Helena scenario. Helena comes back to Starling city and heads to the Queen mansion hoping to hunt Ollie at home, but instead of him, she finds Thea, startling her as she exits the bathroom with nothing but a towel.
BRB.
Yep. Felicity.
I know what they've tried to do with Laurel but they haven't done a good job of it at all. Laurel is part of his past and I just don't see them together in the present or future. But if they go by the comics, they will end up together. Im hoping that they won't.
Sure, except Roy and Thea. Kill them both.
even taking into account the way they've written Laurel and the lack of chemistry between the two actors, is that the story itself has put a massive squick factor into the relationship. If you're going to do a will they, won't they then a pilot where you have one half the relationship cheat on the other with her sister who then ends up dead isn't exactly the best way to go.
Added to the dead zone between the two actors and the uneven writing (and performance) of Laurel having her hop back into Ollie's bed just makes her seem more of a simpering fool.
Added to the dead zone between the two actors and the uneven writing (and performance) of Laurel having her hop back into Ollie's bed just makes her seem more of a simpering fool.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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You two are insane. That is the most toxic relationship on television. It is a terrible idea on so many levels. You two are genuinely insane.
Goddamn.
Or having sex in front of one of their recent ex-boyfriends, and childhood friends, right before he dies.
Personally, I don't ship so I tend to dislike or even hate every character who serves little purpose outside of their relationship plots. That includes Thea (who when isn't in crappy relationship drama is in crappy family drama), McKenna, Laurel, Roy (for most of last season) etc.
I wouldn't be against them if these relationships were well written and organic and the actors had chemistry with each other, but usually they don't tick any of those boxes. It's like the writing equivalent of trying to connect two random puzzle pieces together. Worse, they steal time away from the good parts of the show.
It's funny, but IMO the least bad relationship is the one who's gotten the least amount of time: Shado. Her character isn't defined by the man she's with or wants to be with or wants her or by a love triangle or whatever. She has a purpose in the plot, to save her dad and stop Fryers' shenanigans. She's useful and very important: she trains Oliver and saves his ass a bunch. The actors have decent chemistry. Their dialogue is fun. The relationship has felt more organic and it hasn't even become romantic yet IIRC. Him proving himself to her in the finale feels earned. Her eventually having feelings for him makes sense.
As for Felicity. I want her to continue doing what she's doing: being a fun, useful character that helps advance the plot.
Nah, I am fine. Will love the sodium content rise when the pairing gets what they deserve in S2, though
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Nah, I am fine. Will love the sodium content rise when the pairing gets what they deserve in S2, though
I... I I I do not know how you can be okay with that relationship. He cheated on her, with her sister, who then died while she was with him AND THEN she began dating his best friend while everyone thought he was dead AND THEN he came back from the dead and she hated him but really still had feelings for him AND THEN Tommy got jealous cause all this shit is weird and dumped her AT WHICH POINT Laurel and Oliver fucked in front of Tommy AND THEN TOMMY DIED.
Scumbag Ollie does not mean anything to me, the Oliver who emerged from his cocoon is clearly beyond his past now. Punishing him for such (horrible, indeed) things would not be a good point, imho. It is not like he killed her himself. They had an accident. If anything, Malcolm is responsible.
SO more like "dating the best friend of your dead boyfriend whose father killed your sister" - how is that for starters?
But clearly, Laurel was a victim there as well, so she needed emotional support. Tommie was a coward at the end, he lost the fight WITHIN, cause he was afraid that Oliver revealing himself to Laurel as the Arrow would win her over - but I do not think that would have been true at that point. All Tommie needed to do was to TALK to her (What horrible writing btw), and stay at her side. But NOOOOO, he started his bullshit.
At that point, fucking at a WINDOW while not suspecting that Tommy boy could see them was anything but reckless. It is coincidental writing, a fine trait of soap operas.
At this point, it is a worthwile mess to jump into, be that Tommie's spirit, Laurel, or Oliver himself. Or a fangirl Felicity whose purpose would not be anything but some jokes and references regarding to Ollie
SO more like "dating the best friend of your dead boyfriend whose father killed your sister" - how is that for starters?
But clearly, Laurel was a victim there as well, so she needed emotional support. Tommie was a coward at the end, he lost the fight WITHIN, cause he was afraid that Oliver revealing himself to Laurel as the Arrow would win her over - but I do not think that would have been true at that point. All Tommie needed to do was to TALK to her (What horrible writing btw), and stay at her side. But NOOOOO, he started his bullshit.
At that point, fucking at a WINDOW while not suspecting that Tommy boy could see them was anything but reckless. It is coincidental writing, a fine trait of soap operas.
At this point, it is a worthwile mess to jump into, be that Tommie's spirit, Laurel, or Oliver himself. Or a fangirl Felicity whose purpose would not be anything but some jokes and references regarding to Ollie
It's so convoluted with baggage that it literally took me a solid 30 seconds to figure out who you were talking about exactly.
Funky Papa
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Guys, guys. This just occurred to me:
What if Tommy the Beta wasn't the biggest simp in this show? What if that's Laurel? Because sure as hell she's yearning it even more than Tommy yearned her.
Ollie's D, man. That thing's gotta be magical.
What if Tommy the Beta wasn't the biggest simp in this show? What if that's Laurel? Because sure as hell she's yearning it even more than Tommy yearned her.
Ollie's D, man. That thing's gotta be magical.
See, NotTheGuy, you shouldn't be so upset about the superpower thing. Oliver had a superpower all along.
Funky Papa
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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Wiktor
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Everyone besidesd Laurel pretty much
And yes, she was on photo on island, but this only means she's perfect choice to die and make Olie into even better hero.
Hours Left
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You know, they built it up so much in season 1 that I really don't mind them ending up together. It wouldn't make sense (because of their history) and at the same time it would (because of the entirety of season 1 and all the forced connections and buildups), but I just don't want to see them do the dumb as shit Lana Lang breakup/reunite milked romantic garbage for 6 seasons that was Smallville. I know, I know, I saw that quote, but I'm holding out hope that something changes...
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I don't want them to have an on-again/off-again thing at all. You're right, that shit with Lana was godawful. The end result may be to have them together, but it's so illogical and weird.
I would be okay with this. I would be okay with anyone other than Laurel. Literally, anyone. Malcolm and Ollie had more sexual tension than Laurel and Ollie. He has more sexual tension with his mom for Chrissakes.
Because it's awful
I would be okay with this. I would be okay with anyone other than Laurel. Literally, anyone. Malcolm and Ollie had more sexual tension than Laurel and Ollie. He has more sexual tension with his mom for Chrissakes.
Because it's awful
I like Oliver and Felicity as they are. Them in a relationship would be weird, especially when you know the romance is ultimately doomed since he's going to end up with Laurel.
Someone referenced Smallville and I think it would be exactly like the Lana plot after Lois was added; you know Clark is going to be with Lois sooner or later, so any time they try to do the Lana/Clark thing, it just feels like a waste of time.
Off topic: whose making the OT for season 2?
Someone referenced Smallville and I think it would be exactly like the Lana plot after Lois was added; you know Clark is going to be with Lois sooner or later, so any time they try to do the Lana/Clark thing, it just feels like a waste of time.
Off topic: whose making the OT for season 2?
not me
Funky Papa
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Huge spinning GIF of Roy flipping around and nothing else.
There's your OT.
There's your OT.
Wiktor
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Lois was canon though. Always the one true love. Comicbook Oliver might shack up with Laurel, but he's much more of a playboy than Kent ever was.
But Green Arrow usually marries Canary eventually, and the showrunners seem intent on the putting the two together at some point. So while it isn't 1:1, the situations are comparable and make it hard for me to take Ollie being with anyone else seriously. Personal nitpick, really.
Wiktor
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But Arrow has also tendency to shift roles from one character to another. Oliver might end up with Canary, but who's to say it has to be Laurel?
At this point the best way to use Laurel is to put her into refrigerator.
Can't we keep this one? Other shows can do it.
I don't think mods like that. Plus this old behemoth isn't very welcoming to new viewers, or a good introduction to the show for them.
Typically, you want to make a new OT for a new season to 1) bring new people to the show/community and 2) keep the thread from getting too big. Plus our OT is totally outdated now. lol
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