Garrett 2U
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Diggle asks Oliver if he can fly the space ship.
Oliver says, "Between you, me, Ray, and Sarah, I'm hoping one of us can fly this thing."
Poor Thea, Ollie still doesn't believe in her.
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Arrow S5 |OT| You thought you were out, but Manu Bennett pulls you back in.
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Diggle asks Oliver if he can fly the space ship.
Oliver says, "Between you, me, Ray, and Sarah, I'm hoping one of us can fly this thing."
Poor Thea, Ollie still doesn't believe in her.
That whole thing in the episode made me laugh.
MikeBreezy92
Member
Given that Thea gave up the life and always wanted things to be normal it made perfect sense.
It was a little weird to have no explanation for why Artemis wasn't around this episode. I know it's because they didn't want to address the storyline development from last episode in the middle of the crossover/100th episode retrospective but having everyone from the Arrow team there except one was strange.
Calm waterfall
Banned
I liked the episode a lot but it should not have been a crossover episode.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Cause he probably doesn't have a 12 pack ? CW and all ..
the_firewithin
Member
Out of three supposed crossover nights so far we have had about 1.25 episodes worth of crossover: p
Mighty Chin
Banned
I also liked the map of Star City, an exaggerated map of Vancouver and the lower mainland.
Anybody got a screencap of that.
Anybody got a screencap of that.
Isn't that the undertaking map?
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
The difference between the crossover episodes so far is that the crossover made great use of the Flash and Arrow made great use of the crossover.
While this story and this plot device could have been done a few ways, this was the easiest, neatest version they had available.
While this story and this plot device could have been done a few ways, this was the easiest, neatest version they had available.
This shouldn't have been part of the crossover, but damned if it didn't make me feel feels I didn't even think Arrow was able to make me feel anymore.
I've been watching Arrow since the very beginning, cruised on the highs of season two, felt crushed by the lows of season three and finally bailed out on season four. So this season has been wonderful, it's quickly becoming my favourite TV show again (guilty pleasures...) and all the callbacks in this episode really hit me hard.
Please can we bring Laurel back, somehow? I never thought I'd say that after S3/S4, but here it finally felt like she was playing the character she's supposed to be. I genuinely teared up.
I've been watching Arrow since the very beginning, cruised on the highs of season two, felt crushed by the lows of season three and finally bailed out on season four. So this season has been wonderful, it's quickly becoming my favourite TV show again (guilty pleasures...) and all the callbacks in this episode really hit me hard.
Please can we bring Laurel back, somehow? I never thought I'd say that after S3/S4, but here it finally felt like she was playing the character she's supposed to be. I genuinely teared up.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
This season is fucking awesome. I still have no clue as to who Prometheus could be too. All bets are off on what will happen in the mid-season finale.
Violence Jack
Member
I was not expecting this episode to be nearly as good as it was. All of the callbacks to season one, past characters, past villains, etc. Those scenes with Laurel, and Mr. & Mrs. Queen definitely brought the feels.
Arrow is starting to become must-see TV again over Flash until they get over this "fuck you Barry" stuff.
Arrow is starting to become must-see TV again over Flash until they get over this "fuck you Barry" stuff.
Holy moly, the fucking feels in this episode.
But did anyone else notice how bad the CGI was on the Roy ghost?
The Tommy ghost was just as bad.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Seriously guys, I'm going through all the possibilities on who Prometheus could be and I really don't have a solid answer.
I felt like Tommy could have a been a strong choice except the whole Chicago Med reference this episode seems to indicate that his scheduling wouldn't allow him back on this show(unless that's just a red herring of course).
Walter was actually name dropped this episode but he left on good terms with Oliver a couple of seasons ago.
I've even considered the possibility that Prometheus could be Thea but even that is just random speculation.
Of course it could be Felicity's new boyfriend but that just feels like a cheap cop-out for a season that is all about callbacks to previous seasons and characters.
I felt like Tommy could have a been a strong choice except the whole Chicago Med reference this episode seems to indicate that his scheduling wouldn't allow him back on this show(unless that's just a red herring of course).
Walter was actually name dropped this episode but he left on good terms with Oliver a couple of seasons ago.
I've even considered the possibility that Prometheus could be Thea but even that is just random speculation.
Of course it could be Felicity's new boyfriend but that just feels like a cheap cop-out for a season that is all about callbacks to previous seasons and characters.
It suffered not because it went against the pairing, but because they could not leave well enough alone. Hell, before Flashpoint, Oliver and Dinah were divorced.
That said, the writers need to be very careful how they handled bringing Laurel back. Quentin Lance does not deserve to get jerked around as much as the show continues to do.
Personally, I think the writers should have the partial undoing of Flashpoint have her having never died.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I so badly want Prometheus to take off his mask to reveal that he's actually Malcolm Merlyn. Haha
broncobuster
Banned
If Prometheus isn't Yao Fei I'll...probably not to do anything, but I think it's Yao Fei.
Violence Jack
Member
I'm still on the Prometheus is Tommy train thinking that Flashpoint brought Tommy back to life.
Or if it were Walter......
Or if it were Walter......
StarCreator
Member
I kept expecting his parents and Laurel to start trying to restrain him to keep him in the simulation.
(Probably because in Supergirl,
exactly that happened.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Is this the worst case scenario? Lol
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Yes. I try to imagine the worst possible reveal and then fully embrace it. Even scarier is that Malcolm has the means, motive, and opportunity to pull it off. It would be a reveal so anticlimactic that the rest of the season would collapse into itself, like a star turning into a black hole.
Slade doesn't strike me as the type who'd change his identity and start stealing Oliver's arrow gimmick though.
Mighty Chin
Banned
No doubt it's been a rain fest here for 2 months straight.
True, however Slade as we know him is so salty from Oliver "stealing" his girl, that I could totally see him just doing his best to screw with Oliver.
I really doubt it's Slade though.
Hell, they even mentioned her last night!
Chekhov's maid.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Prometheus is Savitar
I thought they handled the episode better than I could have expected, with a lot of things to juggle. They just nailed the tone of it perfectly, with being a 75% nostalgia trip, with some crossover and new team arrow sprinkled in.
I binged the first three seasons right before season four. The first season was really cool, the second was truly spectacular, and then the third was so awful. At that time I was really caught up in how good the first season of Flash was, too. But anyways, season four was better than three, but still a step down from the first two by a lot. I liked how this episode really seemed to focus on the greatness of the first two seasons. It made even me, who has been super down on the last couple seasons, feel emotional. This season has gotten back to being fun again, and easily the best since the second season. It's even more fun than Flash now, which has been struggling since last season IMO because of their villain problem. Zoom and Alchemy cannot compare to season one Welles. Also the team chemistry is way off because of Flashpoint and it has really hurt the show. Even Iris being with Barry makes things way less interesting, unfortunately.
Sorry for this rant, I'm on a caffeine boost lol but my current rankings would be Supergirl > Legends = Arrow > Flash
Season 2 Arrow & Season 1 Flash are still the peak DCTV, though.
I binged the first three seasons right before season four. The first season was really cool, the second was truly spectacular, and then the third was so awful. At that time I was really caught up in how good the first season of Flash was, too. But anyways, season four was better than three, but still a step down from the first two by a lot. I liked how this episode really seemed to focus on the greatness of the first two seasons. It made even me, who has been super down on the last couple seasons, feel emotional. This season has gotten back to being fun again, and easily the best since the second season. It's even more fun than Flash now, which has been struggling since last season IMO because of their villain problem. Zoom and Alchemy cannot compare to season one Welles. Also the team chemistry is way off because of Flashpoint and it has really hurt the show. Even Iris being with Barry makes things way less interesting, unfortunately.
Sorry for this rant, I'm on a caffeine boost lol but my current rankings would be Supergirl > Legends = Arrow > Flash
Season 2 Arrow & Season 1 Flash are still the peak DCTV, though.
But he had a thick accent, and Prometheus hasn't.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
But he had a thick accent, and Prometheus hasn't.
Ten years of practice.
But it's probably some gangster or Tempest member from season 1.
Plasticine
Member
Just finished watching the cross-over. Haven't bothered with Legends since early in the first season. First time seeing Nate Heywood. Ravager no longer has the worst looking costume in the history of the Arrow-verse.
AstroNut325
Member
Just watched up to Episode 4. Hate the new team. Love everything else. Especially the flashbacks.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Good flashbacks again! I stay away from my phone while I watch stuff, but the Season 3 & 4 flashbacks always made me want to answer emails or something. Now they're actually fun to watch.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Its Tommy
I love the Superman Returns reference from Brandon Routh near the end. Damn, I really wished he played as Superman in this rather than the current actor, he is so perfect for it. Wasn't his fault that his Superman movie sucked due to the script and story. Poor guy. Hope his career is ok now:
