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Arrow S5 |OT| You thought you were out, but Manu Bennett pulls you back in.
- Thread starter ZeroX03
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Look what happened with Zoom dude
I'll take the nameless faceless badass over the shock twist surprise it's Wild Dog's split personality
I think there's something cool about a nobody who trains for one dedicated reason. I'm sure it'll end up being some kind of special reveal which is annoying.
I would be completely on board if it actually from an episode of S1 and not off screen stuff.
Septimus Prime
Member
It's unlikely Wild Dog, since they were in the room together. Therefore, it's Ragman. He actually is pissed about the nuke.
Speed Force
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Only one person could dress like a Dark Archer and have League-tier training and believe everything that Ollie touches dies
You spelled
wrong.
I feel like Ra's could probably still beat him on skill. Ollie tried to overpower him and failed hard.
My guess is the human power levels in the Arrowverse are something like this:
- Oliver
- Ra's
- Sara
- Prometheus
- Mick
- Slade
- Merlyn
- Nyssa/Katana
- Diggle
- Thea/Roy
- Laurel
- One-Off Villains
- Random Mooks
- Felicity
- Curtis
Prometheus is probably lower, but we've only seen him really fight Oliver who he trained specifically to beat and held his own pretty well.
broncobuster
Banned
Ollie beating Ra's will always be BS. I'd say Ra's, Super Slade, and Ollie are top three in that order. China White and Bronze Tiger are MIA but fall in the middle.
Wildcat is below Curtis on that list.
Wildcat is below Curtis on that list.
Yeah I can't say they earned Oliver beating Ra's, but he did, and he's taken down metas and aliens to boot.
Is it really surprising after 2 of the worst seasons of television ever produced that people bailed the F out?
dead souls
Member
Two of the worst seasons of television ever produced? Did I accidentally wander into the Legends of Tomorrow thread?
Guys, Prometheus is obviously Oliver's new reporter girl friend.
Didn't you notice that he mentioned Prometheus did a move that someone in Russia taught him and she reaches for Russian vodka when he goes to her apartment to visit?
She was also standing next to him at the party and saw him shake Billy's hand so she could do the whole dramatic "everything you touch dies" line. Also explains how Prometheus was able to attack Curtis at the party, then disappear so quickly.
Why is everyone assuming Prometheus is male? She uses a voice synthesizer.
The baby in the photo could easily be a girl.
Would also fit right into the typical Arrrowverse trend of being betrayed by someone close.
Didn't you notice that he mentioned Prometheus did a move that someone in Russia taught him and she reaches for Russian vodka when he goes to her apartment to visit?
She was also standing next to him at the party and saw him shake Billy's hand so she could do the whole dramatic "everything you touch dies" line. Also explains how Prometheus was able to attack Curtis at the party, then disappear so quickly.
Why is everyone assuming Prometheus is male? She uses a voice synthesizer.
The baby in the photo could easily be a girl.
Would also fit right into the typical Arrrowverse trend of being betrayed by someone close.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Yes
dead souls
Member
Yes. It is legitimately great and depending on how the back half goes it could be the best season of any Arrowverse show.
Nah that's a boy, felicity confirmed as much with her info digging. However that doesn't mean that Prometheus is the son of the guy Oliver killed. The pic could've been planted.
Serious cringe warning for this one. An Olicity fan posted up a big long post about how bad the last episode was and Amell responded:
https://www.facebook.com/stephenamell/posts/1228839840534614
It's crazy how differently the fanbases read the show. I will acknowledge though it was weird that everybody comforted Oliver while Felicity's boyfriend was the dead one. I guess it seemed natural because he's the lead.
I was going to point out that her learning about Oliver's Russia connection was new information, but I rewatched the scene and she never actually said it was new to her, she just smiled so I can't see anything that contradicts here at the moment. Except...
Her body type is drastically different to Prometheus. Obviously they use stunt actors, but it's going to be really hard to say this 5'5" woman is Prometheus who seems to be only a little bit shorter than GA with a bit of muscle.
Then again Human Target magically had Oliver's build until he didn't lol
Doesn't seem like that information is 100% reliable. It wasn't birth records as far as I can tell, just court records?
https://www.facebook.com/stephenamell/posts/1228839840534614
It's crazy how differently the fanbases read the show. I will acknowledge though it was weird that everybody comforted Oliver while Felicity's boyfriend was the dead one. I guess it seemed natural because he's the lead.
I was going to point out that her learning about Oliver's Russia connection was new information, but I rewatched the scene and she never actually said it was new to her, she just smiled so I can't see anything that contradicts here at the moment. Except...
Her body type is drastically different to Prometheus. Obviously they use stunt actors, but it's going to be really hard to say this 5'5" woman is Prometheus who seems to be only a little bit shorter than GA with a bit of muscle.
Then again Human Target magically had Oliver's build until he didn't lol
Doesn't seem like that information is 100% reliable. It wasn't birth records as far as I can tell, just court records?
Jorok Goldblade
Member
No, do it.
She'd be a perfect villain for an episode where Curtis learns to embrace his own unique talents and finally starts bringing gadgets (T-Spheres) into the field.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
That episode had potential! The low budget Die Hard premise they had going on was cool. And the motivation that someone would want Felicity's magical spine chip is actually pretty decent. I think the main issue is that character is approaching Batman 66 levels of campy. Her name, the entire bee shtick, the puns. It would be like Captain Cold being a villain on Arrow.
I actually hope they bring her back in Flash, Legends or even Supergirl. She can work, just not on a show that takes itself so seriously. Of course I could be totally wrong since she has had two episodes and hasn't worked either time lol
ClivePwned
Member
That was a pretty wrenching ep to see Olly kill Felicity's boyfriend accidentally.
Its probably been answered, but is that Michael Dorn doing Prometheus' voice?
Its probably been answered, but is that Michael Dorn doing Prometheus' voice?
Show brings back Laurel:
seems quite clear to me.
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as far Oliver going to Laurel, in tough times it sometimes helps having an outside person to talk to.
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I guess that answers itself really. they arent endgame. At the start, Oliver and Laurel were end game, but somewhere that changed, and now they want to change it back.
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an arc doesn't have to end in happy endings. This is their arc, they were friends, they wee more. things went wrong, and they drifted, and now they repair ttheir friendship.
sounds like an arc to me.
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Oliver has been reluctant with susan since the start, and she has done most of the advances.
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ironically, here is how she started her diatribe:
"Just for a moment, put aside the notion that I’m “just a shipper who can’t always get what they want”---but an impassioned and loyal viewer that is beyond confused and disheartened by the show that seems to be a shell of its former self.
she wants to get what she wantsANYWAY, Here is Stephen's response: https://www.facebook.com/stephenamell/posts/1228839840534614?comment_id=1229369777148287
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i regret reading that
We are not the main target audience. Never were.
Reminder: season 2 and 5 are the worst watched seasons of the show. People bailed the fuck out of season 2. Also, Arrow S3 and S4 wouldn't even be in the bottom 70% of television ranked to quality.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
I come back into the OT because I guess I'm going to watch the first nine due to the really good feedback but then I see this... They must be doing something right.
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Jesus christ
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Jesus christ
Great to have an excuse to bring that gif back
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Good to have you back.
PhoenixZero was the only person who took me up on my offer to remind him he said he was done with the show and would no longer be posting. However, he did give himself a slight out, depending on how the show was doing at the mid-season.
I think you'll really enjoy the show again. Good luck!
PHOENIXZERO
Member
To be fair, I already watched the crossover episode but that was another out of mine and part why I'm giving it all a shot again, I didn't think it was great or anything but the lack of some ridiculous drama like what happened with last season's crossover was a plus.
Oliver is no longer a billionaire and Felicity was fired. They need to improvise now.
broncobuster
Banned
Having never finished Season 4, I've been wondering what's up with Felicity at Palmer Tech. Or why Thea stopped being Speedy. Or why Diggle rejoined the military. Or that whole nuke business. I surmised what I could though conversations.
Septimus Prime
Member
Here's what you need to know: nothing. It's better to just pretend seasons 3 and 4 never happened.
If something comes up where they reference that time (which is actually rare, thankfully), just consider it an effect of Flashpoint.
Why did I read that? Someone should show Amell this thread, that may brighten his day a bit with the reactions S5 is getting so far from us. Maybe. No idea.
Don't show it to Gustin though. :'D
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
- Felicity got fired because it turns out IT girl is not a good CEO.
- Thea and Diggle got depressed when Laurel died.
- Dahrk tried to nuke the world. They stopped it.
Can anyone do a tldr?
"I'm an Olicity nuts. This post has nothing to do with Olicity. The show now sucks because there's no Olicity. pls answer"
MHWilliams
Member
Season 2, the favorite for folks like us, was actually down.
It's becoming increasingly clear that's the case.
People being alive who we thought were dead happens like every Wednesday to these people