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[Joni]

Yet it is his fault that Laurel is dead because he didn't trust his best friend that is always always right.

So we're talking about Arrow Season 4?

The one some people imagined they saw. I assume it is that fictional version which the Tumblr crowd is now watching.

 

[Sephzilla]

The one some people imagined they saw. I assume it is that fictional version which the Tumblr crowd is now watching.

I dunno man, Felicity in Season 4 is pretty unbearable especially during that whole "Oliver's son" ordeal

 

[Joni]

I dunno man, Felicity in Season 4 is pretty unbearable especially during that whole "Oliver's son" ordeal

That is one of those cases where I think I would also be mad if my spouse hid a kid from me. Some people might be more noble or naive than me.

 

[morningbus]

David Ramsey's character isn't written into a bigger role due to shippers, though. And is written to be a rational human being.

You're missing my point.

This thread spends so much of its time worrying about Felicity it's as bad as any of those Facebook posts that get screencapped and mocked here and on Reddit.

You're all a bunch of atheists that spend all their time talking about religion.

 

[Sephzilla]

That is one of those cases where I think I would also be mad if my spouse hid a kid from me. Some people might be more noble or naive than me.

The problem is that even the mother of the kid even said "don't be mad at Oliver, I'm the one who put him in an impossible situation like that." and then Felicity gets mad at Oliver. If we also factor in the Vandal Savage crossover there's also Felicity getting pissed at Oliver because Oliver took a few hours to process the fact that he had a son before telling her.

You're missing my point.

This thread spends so much of its time worrying about Felicity it's as bad as any of those Facebook posts that get screencapped and mocked here and on Reddit.

You're all a bunch of atheists that spend all their time talking about religion.

I think it's warranted since Felicity basically hijacked a good chunk of Season 4, the worst season of the show. So everyone's worried about returning to that level. If season 5 had way too many episodes revolving around Diggle drama, I'm pretty sure we'd say the same shit. Case in point - look at the bitching about Cisco in the Flash this season.

 

[Joni]

The problem is that even the mother of the kid even said "don't be mad at Oliver, I'm the one who put him in an impossible situation like that." and then Felicity gets mad at Oliver. If we also factor in the Vandal Savage crossover there's also Felicity getting pissed at Oliver because Oliver took a few hours to process the fact that he had a son before telling her.

She found out, she didn't know he would tell. He has the tendency to keep secrets. Which he said he wouldn't do anymore. As for the mom, no, still his responsibility. She isn't marrying the mom.

 

[Sephzilla]

Nah, I still don't think she was right to get angry at Oliver over that. I would have told Felicity to not let the door hit her on the way out if she acted that way after finding out I chose to have my son in my life instead of not having him in my life.

 

[Septimus Prime]

David Ramsey's character isn't written into a bigger role due to shippers, though. And is written to be a rational human being.

Him being around at all at this point is already more of a role than necessary. Diggle really serves almost no purpose, as he no longer needs to be around to ground Oliver anymore, and him being around in combat scenarios actually detracts from Oliver's appeal by making Green Arrow seem less competent.

I would be fine if he were just relegated to flashbacks, since him being a foil to The Hood is better than him just being around because he's a main character.

 

[Sephzilla]

Him being around at all at this point is already more of a role than necessary. Diggle really serves almost no purpose, as he no longer needs to be around to ground Oliver anymore, and him being around in combat scenarios actually detracts from Oliver's appeal by making Green Arrow seem less competent.

I would be fine if he were just relegated to flashbacks, since him being a foil to The Hood is better than him just being around because he's a main character.

You know, thinking about it, I actually liked Diggle's character more before he became Spartan and was just the guy who kept Oliver anchored to reality. Plus, it meant when Diggle rarely went into the field with Oliver it was a big deal (like when he busted out a fucking sniper rifle for Slade). But maybe I'm just being nostalgic for old Arrow when it was just Oliver and his two buddies in the hideout.

 

[morningbus]

I think Diggle's arc would have been better if his role was kept mostly the same until this season, where being wanted by the Government forced him to go underground and become Spartan.

 

[ZeroX03]

I believe in Felicity Smoak

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I like Felicity when she's in that Moneypenny role. Light comedic relief with a healthy dash of sexual tension. I'm a huge supporter of well written female characters, so it might seem contradictory to say that...but I don't think I've ever liked a Felicity centered storyline.

They almost had something decent going with her gaining confidence from being in the wheelchair. Then they gave her a magical spinal chip.

Also, jokey characters going all serious falls flat for me. Usually the actors aren't used to doing it so it's doubly annoying. Only time I've ever liked it was Wesley on Angel.

 

[ZeroX03]

Also, jokey characters going all serious falls flat for me. Usually the actors aren't used to doing it so it's doubly annoying. Only time I've ever liked it was Wesley on Angel.

That was an awesome character arc.

They're not going to go that extreme for Felicity unfortunately.

 

[Toa TAK]

So this shit is rigged, right?

 

[ZeroX03]

So this shit is rigged, right?

Rigged in what sense? Stephen's Facebook engagement is huge.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

So this shit is rigged, right?

One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong.

 

[Plasticine]

I believe in Felicity Smoak

.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Can't even get the site to load on mobile

 

[Toa TAK]

Rigged in what sense? Stephen's Facebook engagement is huge.

One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong.

Vote for the man

 

[Plasticine]

That was an awesome character arc.

They're not going to go that extreme for Felicity unfortunately.

I don't know. Goth Felicity kidnaps Ollie's son, gets booted off Team Arrow and forms her own group of vigilantes while becoming romantically entangled with a sexy, but evil, female lawyer and descending into alcoholism sounds like it's perfect for Arrow to me!

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Vote for the man

That's a slippery slope. Today, it's the People's Choice Awards. Tomorrow, it's the Kid's Choice Awards. Next thing you know you're buying burner cellphones to make sure Ariana Grande wins a giant surfboard at the Teen Choice Awards.

 

[Toa TAK]

That's a slippery slope. Today, it's the People's Choice Awards. Tomorrow, it's the Kid's Choice Awards. Next thing you know you're buying burner cellphones to make sure Ariana Grande wins a giant surfboard at the Teen Choice Awards.

<_<

That almost sounds like you talk from experience.

 

[Joni]

So this shit is rigged, right?

Yes. I don't know how three of those people would stand a chance against him in 2016.

 

[strafer]

so will there be a christmas episode this week?

 

[ZeroX03]

so will there be a christmas episode this week?

NEW EPISODE TONIGHT!!

...is not something I'll be saying for over a month. Sorry people, show is on break until end of Jan.

<_<

That almost sounds like you talk from experience.

That's right, grizzlyjin is Shakira, you got her.

 

[WedgeX]

NEW EPISODE TONIGHT!!

https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ar509a_0312b.jpg?w=700

...is not something I'll be saying over a month. Sorry people, show is on break until end of Jan.

 

[ZeroX03]

Not even the first time I've done that lol

 

[Sephzilla]

NEW EPISODE TONIGHT!!

...is not something I'll be saying for over a month. Sorry people, show is on break until end of Jan.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

Not even the first time I've done that lol

*Flashback to ZeroX03 doing that on the island*

 

[Sephzilla]

Not even the first time I've done that lol

"To me, I've been doing that for centuries"

 

[TheCowboyPoet]

What an unexpected twist! Didn't really think/care about The Flash not being on last night but not having Arrow tonight has me bummed out.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Him being around at all at this point is already more of a role than necessary. Diggle really serves almost no purpose, as he no longer needs to be around to ground Oliver anymore, and him being around in combat scenarios actually detracts from Oliver's appeal by making Green Arrow seem less competent.

I would be fine if he were just relegated to flashbacks, since him being a foil to The Hood is better than him just being around because he's a main character.

SA was pissed when they write Laurel out, he'd go nuclear if they dumped Ramsey

 

[Wingfan19]

HOLY FUCK!!!!

 

[Skux]

Is Blackthorne still in this show or did they write him out with the rehab arc?

 

[Sephzilla]

HOLY FUCK!!!!

RADIOACTIVE

RADIOACTIVE

 

[GulAtiCa]

Is Blackthorne still in this show or did they write him out with the rehab arc?

Pretty sure he is still in it. Only been 2 episodes, even if it seems like it's been longer.

Hell, for the actor himself, just been 1 since he was in the crossover episode via the dream.

 

[Septimus Prime]

SA was pissed when they write Laurel out, he'd go nuclear if they dumped Ramsey

I mean, no need to completely write him out, but keep him in prison or whatever and then relegate his major presence to flashbacks. They've already shown they're more than happy to flash back into season 1's time with new content, so that would work well for him.

 

[Joni]

They just had two episodes where they didn't need him. He also might be on an 18 episode contract or something.

 

[Toa TAK]

HOLY FUCK!!!!

Having seen it recently, all I have to say was that scene was hilarious.

I mean Tommy just gets shat on right there.

 

[Joni]

Having seen it recently, all I have to say was that scene was hilarious.

I mean Tommy just gets shat on right there.

And then he got beamed trying to save paper.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

I'm a few episodes in but I kind of already know what's coming but it's been pretty good so far, Ragdude is better than I expected because I couldn't stand the boyfriend character the actor played on Blindspot. Ben from Reaper is an annoying dick though. "Artemis" reminds me of a mini-version of Ginnifer Goodwin/Snow White from Once Upon A Time though also annoying. Thank the gods the Havenrock nuke deal didn't turn into some big drawn out secret that would eventually blow up like the town did.

HOLY FUCK!!!!

Hahahaha, he knows our pain... I mean joy.

SA was pissed when they write Laurel out, he'd go nuclear if they dumped Ramsey

Where'd he talk about it?

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Wait a second, I just realized something.

Artemis criticized and betrayed Oliver for killing people.

Yet a few episodes ago, wasn't she gushing on how badass Spartan was shooting down Church's men?

Either Diggle's more charming, or she's just a plain hypocrite.

 

[ZeroX03]

Wait a second, I just realized something.

Artemis criticized and betrayed Oliver for killing people.

Yet a few episodes ago, wasn't she gushing on how badass Spartan was shooting down Church's men?

Either Diggle's more charming, or she's just a plain hypocrite.

For like the 50th time, Diggle uses tranq rounds.

Also she's working with Prometheus who is dropping heaps of bodies including cops, which is a far bigger deal.

She's a teenager. Hypocrisy and irrational are part of the package.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Also, even IF Diggle was killing goons that were shooting at them, it's still in a different ballpark than Season 1 Oliver. Back then Oliver was just killing people on the list, even if they couldn't fight back.

 

[Joni]

Also, even IF Diggle was killing goons that were shooting at them, it's still in a different ballpark than Season 1 Oliver. Back then Oliver was just killing people on the list, even if they couldn't fight back.

It is also good to remember she doesn't even know they are bad guys. He never did tell why they were on the list. And the cops that huntress shot might also be on his public list of victims.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

Preview scene from the next episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcrD48K5P9A

 

[broncobuster]

Preview scene from the next episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcrD48K5P9A

Spoiler

Going to assume this lawyer was on the island or Russia.

 

[ZeroX03]

Preview scene from the next episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcrD48K5P9A

Oh damn that's definitely a flashback transition at the end!

 

[Joni]

Seeing episodes of season 1 again, it was so bright. And I don't know why, but I always seem to catch the Helena episodes when watching that season. It is the one where she returns and Mama Lance turns up claiming Sara is alive!

Spoiler

Going to assume this lawyer was on the island or Russia.

Oh damn that's definitely a flashback transition at the end!

It is Dolph Lundgren!

 

[Volimar]

Preview scene from the next episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcrD48K5P9A

Spoiler

Matt Murdock in the crossover we've all been waiting for!