Napoleonthechimp
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Yao Fei to be Ra's Al Ghul, returns and kicks everyone into the dirt.
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Yao Fei to be Ra's Al Ghul, returns and kicks everyone into the dirt.
Why do people keep repeating Lazarus Pit as a thing?
Malcolm Merlyn states: "There are places in the world where death is but an illusion. I have been to one(1). I have learned to be very convincing.(2)"
(1) is what people focus on, but they should not. If the pit were the answer, (2) should not have been said.
Which means he was trained to fake his death, that is it.
That does not mean there is no Lazarus pit, but it means that this is not a confirmation that there is.
Malcolm Merlyn states: "There are places in the world where death is but an illusion. I have been to one(1). I have learned to be very convincing.(2)"
(1) is what people focus on, but they should not. If the pit were the answer, (2) should not have been said.
Which means he was trained to fake his death, that is it.
That does not mean there is no Lazarus pit, but it means that this is not a confirmation that there is.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
At least Dark Souls II will keep me busy until then
I think it's cause Merlyn came alive a couple of episodes after Sarah came alive so the two were kinda lumped together and really the only logical explanation for Sarah is Lazarus Pit.
Exactly how I feel. Terrible acting
This is exactly my take.
She has been briefly teased in two previews now. You don't do that for an Easter Egg. Heck that goes against the point of an Easter Egg. And if it's just a brief appearance (quick introduction, short background, maybe a couple lines of dialogue), I still think they have bigger plans for her. In this episode, I could see Waller deciding Harley shouldn't be used for their current mission because of her mental state, and I predict it will be buildup for some future Suicide Squad episode where things are dire and they use her because it's an all-hands-on-deck situation. Teasing her in this way to never utilize the character for more than brief fan service would be an obvious ploy that is beneath this show, in my opinion.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Yep, she can't act. So par for the course
Supermanisdead
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i miss tommy
I just saw it, horrendous. Makes you question her acting skills if she stands out like that on arrow no less.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Yep, sounded like something used for a trailer or TV spot
Best part of the ep
The overly dramatic music
Her poor acting
The zooming in haha
Then commercial
Cornballer
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- Extended promo for next episode (airs 3/19, please spoiler tag any discussion)
The most distracting thing about that Sara scene was that she looked directly into the camera. :lol
Anyway, I enjoyed the ep. I think Slade's vengeance over Shado is way too overblown, even for a CW show, but I guess it makes a little more sense if you factor in the Mirakuro fucking up his head.
The writers are really treating it as the only reason though, or at least the only reason Slade cares about. It would pretty easy to drop in any of those factors -- betrayal, loss of eye, etc. -- but it's just Shado that gets repeated over and over.
Anyway, I enjoyed the ep. I think Slade's vengeance over Shado is way too overblown, even for a CW show, but I guess it makes a little more sense if you factor in the Mirakuro fucking up his head.
Error said:
The writers are really treating it as the only reason though, or at least the only reason Slade cares about. It would pretty easy to drop in any of those factors -- betrayal, loss of eye, etc. -- but it's just Shado that gets repeated over and over.
FalconSabre
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Outside of that line, Caity Lotz doesn't bother me at all. It was bad, but that happens to everyone.
That close up and looking right at the camera was a bad directing choice. It looked bad in the preview and was hoping it would have turned out better in the episode. It didn't and I don't really blame the actress on that but the director. That was just a bad decision but it made her look bad as a result. It wouldn't have worked out well had it been anyone else either.
I agree with this. I'm hoping she'll get better as the show progresses like Stephen Amell has done from the first episode til now.
Loved all the island stuff and Slade continuing to be fucking BOSS. I find it hilarious how Manu Bennett's acting is so above everyone else on this show though
n00bsauce87
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Question on the promo
So who's in the pictures in Deadshot's cell?
His getting stabbed in the eye obviously is a big motivation, since Slade's plan ultimately culminates in stabbing Ollie in the eye as the final act of revenge. Also, in that long trailer
there is a person in a chair that Ollie spins around to reveal an arrow sticking out of what is presumably his eye, the implication being it is a message from Slade.
VeryGooster
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Arrow rating took a dip last night. http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-prin...-survivor-as-criminal-minds-to-lead-wednesday
I feel bad for you, the show looks fantastic in HD.
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Show's taking so many breaks. I wouldn't be surprised.
Netflix this. I want the whole season in one day.
PhoncipleBone
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Sucks, but the show is renewed, so we are fine.
The rating is described as a series low. That's disappointing and pretty shocking, to be honest. The story is starting to really move with the current main villain. I would think more Slade/Deathstroke would be good for ratings.
Pretty much.
With the show taking a break every other episode I'm not surprised there's been a dip.
Night Hunter
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I don't know how The CW works. Is this bad? Or can it be explained by outside factors (other than breaks)?
Has the CW been showing college basketball games during the normal Arrow time slot in some places? I thought I've read posts from some people complaining about this in the past. I have no idea if that's the case or if it would affect the ratings to any degree, just throwing out something I seem to remember.
Just finished watching the episode and I gotta admit, it wasn't as good as I'd hoped, especially after all the hype. It wasn't bad either, but for some reason I enjoyed it less. Maybe because I knew going in pretty much what was going to happen? I'm kinda surprised I didn't like it as much as I anticipated.
Wiktor
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Screw Netlix. I wouldn't want to get scrappy 13 eps through a whole year.
SlowRevolution
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did I miss something or do we have no clue where Oliver lives? or did he just get kicked out this episode?
holy shit. please be played by a good actress if it's not just a cameo.
PhoncipleBone
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Why didn't any arrows fall out of the quiver as he was hanging upside down?
soul creator
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lol, reminds me of that fight scene in Crouching Tiger HIdden Dragon
I feel like I've seen similar shots in other movies too...the "get back here" grab in the middle of a fight always makes me chuckle
Lactose_Intolerant
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Yep, breaks kill shows. Needs to be 13 episodes.
Malmorian
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Probably my favorite episode of Arrow..ever. ^ this was the ONLY scene that pulled me out of the moment, and as several people have stated so far it was by far her worst performance I think. Also only 20 seconds of Felicity?! My heart burns for her :/
I agree the breaks are likely hurting it. If there was a brand new episode next week instead of another break I would expect the ratings would have been higher. In fact it might be better for them to simply air yesterday's episode again next week so they can properly lead into the new episode the week after but they are likely going to have an older episode. Stuff like that does not help with ratings.
WrenchNinja
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So Deathstroke was lying about not having been married or having children before, right? Or is that a retcon? I could have sworn he mentioned his son Joe in the first season.
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Yup I knew I wasn't crazy.
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Yup I knew I wasn't crazy.
FalconSabre
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Usually the CW has a 3 week or so break in March but the Olympics caused them to split that up. I'm sure the ratings will pick back up in the final stretch with no breaks.
PhoncipleBone
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Also, Slade continues his trend of buttoning up his suit as he makes threats.
"Not yet, kid. I still need to meet the rest of your family." (buttons suit. Boss mode dial does a complete revolution then lands back on 11)
"Not yet, kid. I still need to meet the rest of your family." (buttons suit. Boss mode dial does a complete revolution then lands back on 11)
NotTheGuyYouKill
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It is so fucking unfair for one individual to have this much swagger.
He is the Goku of swagger, good Christ.
Night Hunter
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Do they normally repeat episodes? Or can you watch all the CW stuff online? Would be bad if a lot of people missed such a plot heavy episode.
Same here on all points. The action scenes were pretty great, but as far as plot development goes, it wasn't exciting. I was actually more interested in the background characters (Russian guy, missionary, mouse guy) than getting more of what I knew would happen: Slade is in Starling now; at some point in the past he turned against Oliver.
Plus like many others in this thread I find Slade's rage over Shado really unconvincing. Ivo was going to kill someone and it would've been awful either way. Focus your rage on him.
Slade is mad at everyone though. He wants to make everyone involved pay. You say he should focus his rage, but that's exactly what the Mirakuru prevents him from doing. I feel like the show has gone out of its way to portray that idea.
Wiktor
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Yeah. I don't know why some people assume Slade is at this point capable of fair and logical thinking. The last scene in the ship drilled this idea hard. He just doesn't care. He's just venting his rage and anything that is in front of him,.
BurnOutBrighter
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Pretty much.
Oliver: "I was trying to save Sarah. But I didn't want Shado to die, I cared for her too, you know that."
Slade: "I don't care."
NotTheGuyYouKill
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And it's just gotten worse over the next half-decade. Jeez.
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