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ARROW Season 2 |OT| Back in a Flash
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Schweinehund
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Loved the suicide squad episode, was hoping for more harley, guess the world isn't ready yet. Wouldn't mind seeing a spin off or a few episodes per season dedicated to suicide squad.
Also dat Kahndaq name drop, first step to Shazam getting his own show (again). Wonder if Shazam/Black Adam are more likely to show up than superman.
Also dat Kahndaq name drop, first step to Shazam getting his own show (again). Wonder if Shazam/Black Adam are more likely to show up than superman.
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I didn't get that implication myself, but otherwise I agree Waller is probably Fyers' boss. I remember they focused her on her shoes in first appearance too, which I thought might have a deliberate connection.
WB would never let them use top tier Batman villains, Rhas gets name dropped sometimes but I don't think we'll ever see Rhas Al Ghul in Arrow. Every League of Shadows related episode will probably involve a top ranking operative but not the man himself.
tringworldso
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I like how they namedrop the writers of the suicide squad comic in this episode. The Ostrander suite = John Ostrander aka the creator of the modern Suicide Squad and there was something Giffen = Keith Giffen aka writer of the SS 12 issue miniseries in 2001.
Jorok Goldblade
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The main evidence so far seems to come from her shoes -
There's a closeup on her shoes in the scene where she recruits Bronze Tiger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOWp0tz0rPY
They're the same red high heels as Fyers' boss wore:
http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Edward_Fyers'_employer
Razgriz-Specter
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I don't know,
we got a daughter of Ra's which is a pretty big deal.(despite her not being a huge deal in the comics)
for the sole fact that it directly ties into Ra's.
We wouldn't have seen Nyssa or Talia back around Begins days(even in cartoons)
either means WB doesn't care anymore or they don't plan on using Ra's anytime soon in the new Batman franchise.
Wiktor
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I think Rhas is pretty good bet for S3 big bad actually.
Funky Papa
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Yeah they've been hyping him up a lot this season, and Amell and several producers have been giving interviews saying something along the lines of "thankfully DC realized the whole Ras + league fit with our story so well and there's little reason to hold back." We'll see.
SargerusBR
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Yeah...after they said that super-powers wouldn't appear in the show (and then eventually they did) i don't believe anything the producers says.
Yeah, that is not a good reasoning for why he would not eventually come. Slade Wilson is the best written villain built-up in recent years. The only other villain being namedropped frequently IS Ra's. Which means that they seem to be heading that direcition. Now, there are other variables, but currently, they seem to head there. What they say is second to what happens on the show.
that was full only 10 mins ago.
Grrrrrr god damn it.
With the might of a pantheon of Norse gods I tell you.
GRRRR!!!
Too god damned cute.
Schweinehund
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Wonder what extent they're willing to go with powers. I'm sure flash will stay pretty grounded, I can't see him traveling back in time or running across the world in under a second until like maybe the last season. Deathstroke does have powers but he's pretty light tier in comparison to Shazam and Superman. I just can't imagine flight and lightning bolts showing up just yet, the writes have done a great job of slowly introducing powers. I'm sure super speed is all we'll get for season 2/3, maybe we'll get a character that can fly in season 4.
The ultimate super power never showed up in smallville, so who knows what Arrow will get.
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Perfect gif.
Jorok Goldblade
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Whatever they can do on the cheap.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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PhoncipleBone
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If he does, it will just be an easter egg, because they wouldn't be able to do Green Lantern justice on a CW budget. Of course, they didn't do him justice on a summer movie budget either.
That is why I said it would be before he became a green lantern.
PhoncipleBone
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I know, which I why I said it would just be an easter egg. Much like the Harley Quinn cameo last episode.
It would be cool to see though. A nice lil nod to fans.
Didn't Olliver Queen in the comics meet only Hal Jordan and never Green Lantern? They could go for that angle.
Jest Chillin
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I really don't know how a Green Lantern tv show could work. There's really no way that ANY Lantern can fight anyone without extensive CGI work.
Wiktor
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But the CG itself is pretty simplistic. No sophisticated detail or anything, just half-solid green light. And once you got the software for it right, you could easily pump out those effects on regular basis.
The best part of Green Lanter is the rich galactic setting. I just don't think this can be truly done in a movie. They are just too short.
A GL movie could work like Thor, every movie exploring a different world.
Jest Chillin
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Cost is too high for CGI in what would have to be every single episode for every single fight. And very simple designs wouldn't make the show very enticing or exciting. I really can't see it working.
Wiktor
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If they could make the effects of rings look fine in a cartoon network cg show then I don't see how they would have any problems with doing it in live action, on a lot bigger budget.
Wiktor
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Thor is why I don't think it could work, because after two movies the setting is still barely developed at all. Maybe they will have bigger luck with Guardians of Galaxy.
Jorok Goldblade
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Diggle finds out he was adopted, and his birth name is Stewart. The whole series was actually "Green Lantern / Green Arrow"
That lot bigger budget would need to be spent on all kinds of things that need to be a higher budget. Look at Game of Thrones, which had to save a lot of its budget for a single episode. Look at the awful CGI in the season 1 finale of The Walking Dead, or Lost which had bad CGI despite its high budget.
evil solrac v3.0
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no they are best friends. they know each other's identities.
I do remember in season that cop that had the hots for Ollie relocated to Coast City, home of Green Lantern Hal Jordan.
Wiktor
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All of those shoot on locations though, with lots of props and varied sets. That's what makes them hugely expensive (especially GoT). Green Lantern would be done mostly on green screen. Look at Spartacus. It was dirt cheap to make compared to Game of Thrones. I think we finally reached that point where we could use this tech to make science-fiction show.
Of course, using this method for SF might not be feasible and that's why Starz canceled their awesomely sounding SF epic, but I just wish somebody would try.
The Agents of SHIELD topic has also brought a fun screenshot. This is a show with a big budget considering the network and the companies behind it. This is what they're going to do: Picture from a SHIELD episode that has not aired yet: http://i.imgur.com/Ws2pS2p.png
Razgriz-Specter
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He looks soooo bad, pretty bad when costumes on a CW show look more expensive.
(though Arrow's costuming is near perfect)
Joe Prodigy
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That would be awesome.
PhoncipleBone
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Just like the good half of the Green Lantern movie! The space stuff was great in GL. If they had just kept it focused on him going through space and being awesome, the movie would have been so much better.
I need to get back to that show. I gave up after about 6 episodes, and the general consensus is that it has gotten better.
As for how SHIELD manages to look cheaper than Arrow a lot of the time even if it is the more expensive show, I chalk it up to the production team on Arrow knowing how to work within the limitations and stretch the money. Limitations force you to work smarter, and while the budget constraints show on Arrow often, they still pull off a lot of stuff extremely well.
Funky Papa
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I just came to this thread with watery eyes from a Sriracha chicken sub and I read that as "Diggle finds out he was pregnant". It goes without saying I made the funniest of the faces.
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I like the way you think.
RaySpencer
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BlackNMild2k1
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...didn't they add Diggle to the comics though?
That kinda complicates that idea.
SargerusBR
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Wiktor
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The problem AoS has is that it's not a comic book show. Instead it's a spin-off from movie universe.
Arrow embraces it's comicbookness. THey do it in a bit grounded Nolan-like way, but they're not afraid to give us domino masks and fricking Deathstroke in full costume. THey have their own strong visual style and vision and they stick to it.
Meanwhile Agents of Shield is forced to trying to recreate on tv budget what Marvel movies do with 200mln dollars. So it ends up just looking like cheap imitation.
The problem is, the people behind Shield have no respect or give a shit about where things come from or what came before them.
They will do what they want, and their egos tell them that people will eat it up because they have Marvel backing them and they can just throw a cameo in whever they need to and sadly apparently enough people still do.
Hell the fact that people sat through Thor 2, and Iron Man 3 say that people will sit through anything right now that Marvel shits out.
SargerusBR
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Razgriz-Specter
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Coulson is the only good thing about the show which isn't saying much because he is so dull compared to how he was before he died.
He was basically the only reason worth watching it every week.
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