Jorok Goldblade
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Sara, Malcolm, Andy and Ray.
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Arrow Season 4 |OT| A Tale of Salt and Fire
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Sara, Malcolm, Andy and Ray.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
You get Sara and Malcolm.
No one in their right mind thought Ray was actually dead and Andy is a classic Arrow lie of omission.
You forgot Oliver himself and of course our boy Deadshot.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It depends on if we're talking actually brought back from death or everyone thought they were dead.
Sara: presumed dead twice. Actually died, brought back from death.
Oliver: presumed dead at least twice.
Slade: presumed dead, was alive.
Andy: presumed dead, was alive
Roy: Faked death, still alive
Ray: presumed dead, was alive
Merlyn: presumed dead by public, was alive
They definitely use the card too much. It isn't even something dramatic like the cliffhanger with Oliver last season or Felicity now, they establish that a character has been dead (Slade, Sara, Andy) and then the person shows up and their return is explained later. It's tiresome.
Sara: presumed dead twice. Actually died, brought back from death.
Oliver: presumed dead at least twice.
Slade: presumed dead, was alive.
Andy: presumed dead, was alive
Roy: Faked death, still alive
Ray: presumed dead, was alive
Merlyn: presumed dead by public, was alive
They definitely use the card too much. It isn't even something dramatic like the cliffhanger with Oliver last season or Felicity now, they establish that a character has been dead (Slade, Sara, Andy) and then the person shows up and their return is explained later. It's tiresome.
kylecoley182
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so my friend told me his theory on who is in the grave, he thinks andy will escape and kill Diggle
BewareTheBatsie
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Fully expect her for Legends season 2. But Arrow? Hard to say. Given how they never bring her up when talking about mysticism despite her webseries supposedly taking place in the middle of season 3, I wouldn't be surprised if that, coupled with the fact I don't think much watched it that they would just decide to never mention her.
If a live action Vixen happens it'll probably be in Legends, but I wouldn't be surprised to see her in Arrow first in some kind of introductory capacity.
They casted someone who looks like her so I would hope so. I doubt many has seen the series though so every one would just be left wondering who the hell she is.
i hope so, that was a fun little mini and i'm always down for more heroes
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Really hope so. Hell, give her a full show and complete the CW Trinity.
So one person that came back from the death, two where there was never a body, and one that we knew that had to be alive because he was announced for the spin-off... Only one of them is like Tommy.
Deadshot seems really dead at this time. Oliver wasn't dead. We knew that from the start, on both his deaths.
Winnie the Pimp
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So i am contemplating whether i should keep watching this show or not. I have seen and enjoyed S1 and S2, but after hearing so much negative/mixed feedback of S3, i kinda dropped it for now...
My question is: Does S4 deliver so far? Is it comparable in quality to S1 and 2? If so i may just give S3 a shot and keep going after all hmm...
My question is: Does S4 deliver so far? Is it comparable in quality to S1 and 2? If so i may just give S3 a shot and keep going after all hmm...
Season 3 hate was way exaggerated, it was a decent season unless you have only seen the very best television shows ever. Season 4 uses its villain better.
Season 3 was fine, very much the weakest season for sure, but still fine. If you watch Season 3 via Netflix, it's much more enjoyable. As you can go from each episode to the next right away.
Season 4 is very much back to form and very good lately. Ollie is fun and enjoyable. No longer moody. The new villain is excellent.
Season 4 is very much back to form and very good lately. Ollie is fun and enjoyable. No longer moody. The new villain is excellent.
if you can find a 'select episode of S3' list, watch that. introduce the new players, Legends of Tomorrow tie ins, Flash crossovers... 23 episodes is a long time to invest in S3.
having said that, S4 has been a sharp uptick in quality and the Arrow X Flash X Legends of Tomorrow stuff is all coming together really well.
if you haven't seen Flash, btw - watch that alongside S3. they take place concurrently and it is really, really great.
PhoncipleBone
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Too much swag in one picture. Now add Manu and Tom Cavanagh to the mix to break the world.
Too much swag in one picture. Now add Manu and Tom Cavanagh to the mix to break the world.
Pure sex.
Too much swag in one picture. Now add Manu and Tom Cavanagh to the mix to break the world.
Have them grow beards and watch the universe implode on them.
I'll admit Laurel has annoyed me at times but I've never faulted the actress for that. I've always blamed the writers and the creation of Sara. Whenever she's around or the story is about Sara that is when Laurel as a character suffers. The writers simply are unable to write her at that point for some reason. When she's out of the picture (season 1 and to a degree season 3 and only in the background Laurel shines. She was one of the highlights of season 3 for me and why I was glad they accelerated her becoming Black Canary. Also Laurel has always been the better of the two (between her and Felicity) in regard to that image.
I went back and rewatched the mid-season finale again. I want more Oliver and Laurel scenes. I don't need them together in a relationship. I need and want to see them together as friends more instead of just teammates. People that have been in each others lives for so long they know how the other will respond maybe 90% of the time and are 100% willing to call each other on their BS. That's why I like Diggle and Oliver's friendship so much. They don't have the long history but the closeness is there and and they will call each other out. Like Amell and Ramsey I feel Amell and Cassidy play off each other pretty well and have good chemistry. Same with Cassidy and Ramsey. That's the trio I want to see more of and have wanted to see more of since season 1.
If Felicity isn't dead I hope this ends the relationship between her and Oliver. Or at least it reduces her screen time. There is just to much of her and it takes away from a lot of other character interactions that can be taking place in the show. It would be nice to have an episode that is just primarily Oliver and Thea or Oliver and Laurel or Diggle and Thea, etc. I'm tired of the Felicity show.
Lol. That hindsight is 10/10 argument...
PhoncipleBone
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I'm quite sure we were complaining loudly about her in the first season too.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Yeah, she's only been tolerable in the second half of S3, which is when people started to lighten up on her.
She's easily the worst written character. It feels like anytime they need something stupid to happen, they make Laurel the cause.
BlackGhost
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What episode are we on? Just finished 8 been behind a bit. Was wondering if I can tune in live tonight.
Did see the number on CW
Did see the number on CW
BewareTheBatsie
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Wish we could get Bumblebee. But we already have a shrinking character in Ray, although she was the protege of the Atom in Young Justice so I wouldn't mind having that happen in some form of him mentoring her.
9 aired last week, we're on a break til January.
BlackGhost
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Alright cool thanks. I assume flash is going on break too? Just catching up on everything. Haven't been able to watch live this season
Yep, everything's on a break.
PHOENIXZERO
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So apparently, according to Facebook, Chesthair/Paul Blackthorne is now dating Kaley Cuoco. Okay then.
lol I was just about to post this ... they should do a joke on the Big Bang Theory about it -- too meta.
Darth Pinche
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Hopefully they'll write in Cisco making a Bazinga joke during the next crossover.
Tim Omundson wins for most spectacular beard on CW.
And that glorious mane...
You're goddamn right he wins
Has this been talked about? Sorry if old. Go Detective Chesthair!
Kaley Cuoco Is Dating Arrow Star Paul Blackthorne
Kaley Cuoco Is Dating Arrow Star Paul Blackthorne
Has this been talked about? Sorry if old. Go Detective Chesthair!
Kaley Cuoco Is Dating Arrow Star Paul Blackthorne
He's only forty six?
No one can resist dad level Chesthair. It's so thick.
BewareTheBatsie
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I'm guessing Lance is probably meant to be early to mid fifties, but still, only a seventeen year age difference between him and Katie Cassidy? Then again, Barrowman and Colin Donnell only had a fifteen year different. Looked more like brothers than father and son at times.
I do think it is a difficult taste. There can't be that many young hugely succesful actresses wanting to date someone his age not named Depp, Smith or Cruise. Or who knows, maybe he gets jlaw next.
Paul's got a secret weapon that people often forget though. He's got that irresistible British accent.
That and he seems to be a stand up guy in general.
Plasticine
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That accent. That chest hair. She was powerless to resist.
PhoncipleBone
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Lord help them if he grows a beard
PHOENIXZERO
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I have a mental image now of his chest hair reaching out like tentacles and grabbing people who he then absorbs.
Great.
Hairro the Conqueror
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