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Arrow Season 4 |OT| A Tale of Salt and Fire
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Poodlestrike
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Did he? I thought Darhk had him from the start.
Throwing a punch and fucking up supposedly elite henchmen are not quite the same.
That's the sort of comic book-y thing they would've mentioned if that were the case.
Septimus Prime
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He used to be Superman.
bryanee
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He does mention the bugs at some point.
The staging for the fights in the last couple episodes has been so much stronger than when the season started. Like, considering the schedule they work on, this has been a lot more interesting to watch than the borefest fights we've been stuck with for a while.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Yes, he mentioned it once he was rescued and back in the Arrow cave. He was only captured by Darhk when he tried contacting Felicity the first time, which Felicity ignored, which is why Felicity was so upset about the whole thing.
Yep.. We've now reached our daily "I hate Laurel" quota.
Bear Force One
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This season has been such a nice step up.
And yeah we can can the constant Laurel hatred. It's worse than any acting shs's actually done. You can move on now, guys.
And yeah we can can the constant Laurel hatred. It's worse than any acting shs's actually done. You can move on now, guys.
Septimus Prime
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Hey guys, I hate Felicity.
Oh shit, wrong season.
Oh shit, wrong season.
PhoncipleBone
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Yeah, this season so far feels like a nice course correction from last season. It isn't as strong as season 2, but it feels like it is like remodeling a house. The foundation is strong, but improvements can be made and they are working out the kinks to make it beautiful again.
What do you mean? Oliver pointed it out but Diggle just didn't give a fuck. After saying he'd give his life to bring Andy back he refused to even for one second consider that his brother is being mind controlled by the bad guy.
That was when I was like OK, the writers are doing this shit on purpose now.
I actually disagree. Right now everything seems all over the place. This week's episode especially.
They could do with cutting the flashbacks entirely. And Oliver seems to have taken a back seat to doing Green Arrow things? I don't know, it just seems like most of the scenes focus on the rest of the team so far this season.
It's always the right season.
Bear Force One
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I agree about the focus, but everyone is now likable and useful in my eyes and that's really what I look for in this show.
I do see your points though.
Which is the problem, imo, her character (and Team Arrow) has grown and become more than this and so it feels weird and stilted to see her back as the sole emotional support for a now 4+ person team.
MikeBreezy92
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They just need to go back to the formula of season 1 and 2. By that I mean Green Arrow infiltrating hideouts and bases and taking down baddies. The sidekick game is out of control.
Oh and bring back the good intro!
And then go to bitching about how none of the characters are doing anything?
MikeBreezy92
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He's in an ensemble so he can't be as competent.
The supporting cast did plenty in previous seasons without being in battle. We had the odd teamup here and there but it never got to the point where Green Arrow took a major backseat.
Imagine Flash not doing anything in his own show. That would be weird right? This season of Arrow has been weird for me, because Oliver has done nothing as the Green Arrow.
Yes, Oliver has been nerfed heavily. Probably because they want him to depend on his sidekicks now, which is a huuuuuuuge shame.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Oliver was mostly fighting low-level or no-skill people back then. The people he is messing with now are very powerful, sometimes superhumanly so.
Season 1 was literally just hired goons and thugs for most part. So of course Oliver took them down easily. Also much easier to take people down if you shoot to kill.
The Ghosts today (and League of Assassins) maybe fodder for most part, they are still much better and more dangerous then the common thugs from S1.
The Ghosts today (and League of Assassins) maybe fodder for most part, they are still much better and more dangerous then the common thugs from S1.
Oliver took down Mirakuru soldiers, including Deathstroke...
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Not in the first season, which we were talking about.
Now he's fighting opponents that can be explained away with magic.
He got destroyed by Brother Cyrus Gold. He only got the rest of them do to help from The League in the end. And for Deathstroke. Do you not remember? It was Felicity who got the last laugh and took away his power. Deathstroke then got beaten in a weaken state by Oliver afterwards.
Okay you're right about Deathstroke being weakened but I'd still put him well above these Ghosts he's fighting. These Ghosts are being beaten up like chumps by Laurel, who has barely had any training.
Oh yeah, I definitely put the S2 soldiers way above the Ghosts. They literally became 10x stronger. If anything, this episode showed a little back story of them really being noones. I'd still place them above average. As someone under mind control and no self thought isn't going to go lite. Like those on PCP.
I really want to see a zoom vs arrow fight now.
He'd probably be more useful than Barry at this point :V
well..Barry is doing the Peter Jackson right now.
can't wait to see who zoom is I think it is
his father from earth 2
back to arrow..even after 4 seasons I hate laurel. she is awful and starting to watch season one again just made it worse >.<
Claude Augario
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People go after the women in Flash/Arrow like they're Lana Lang in Smallville; it's absolutely ridiculous the amount of tears they can generate by doing shit I don't even notice until I come here.
Life's been busy and I finally just got around to catching up on like the last four episodes. The only big complaint I have so far is... why the fuck does Dig's weird helmet/mask thing always looked crooked?! It's so fucking bad. Honestly, who looks at footage of that thing in action and goes "Yeah, this is fine"?!
Oh yeah, and Constantine needs to be in more eps this season.
Oh yeah, and Constantine needs to be in more eps this season.
888
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Not sure if it was mentioned but it seems to me Lance was setup. After getting the speech about trust that note with the location of the new recruits just happened to be sticking out. Then Dahrk smiled when Oliver was discovered there.
I bet Lance is not gonna be in the inner circle much longer.
I bet Lance is not gonna be in the inner circle much longer.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Exactly what I thought. I just assumed that he left it out as a trap. Feed Lance some info and if Arrow & Co show up, you know he can't be trusted.
Stallion Dan
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I think everyone but Lance knew instantly it was bait.
There is the small problem that Andy still had to volunteer for that, that he was still running an illegal operation before he joined Darhk and that it still involved a decision to leave his son. Diggle is right to be angry. Also, he keeps avoiding killing Diggle, like saying 'kill the green one' which would leave some to think there is some free will Andy in there. It is why I think they'll reveal he is ARGUS or some other secret agency.
In the end, they were also only chumps. The Deathstroke and Cyrus Gold fights are the ony ones where he actually has trouble.
Well aside from the fact she started as experience fighter already before being downgraded in S1. She has trained with both Nyssa and Wildcat since.
Spiritreaver
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Just watched it.
So there was not one, but two, major political events in Star City and neither was crashed by thugs with guns?
What.
So there was not one, but two, major political events in Star City and neither was crashed by thugs with guns?
What.
You have to forgive Darhk. He thought he could still manipulate Ollie.
If that's the worst thing you've ever seen on TV, I envy you. You live a very sheltered life from how bad TV can actually get.
This is the first season of arrow I am actually enjoying lol. (and the first time I feel like actually discussing the show with people in this thread instead of the flash thread
)The rest of arrow I just watched to get caught up so I didn't miss any Flash stuff. This season I am actually enjoying for the most part... likely because for the first time in the series oliver is actually likable for me >.>
that being said he is to likable in his flashback, it's year 4 of the 5 years he was gone, he really should be a lot closer to season 1 oliver at this point. Not that I dislike the oliver in the flashback, it just feels out of place with expectations with previous seasons (aka I feel he has been getting nicer in the flashbacks instead of more assassiny)
This is the first season of arrow I am actually enjoying lol. (and the first time I feel like actually discussing the show with people in this thread instead of the flash thread
The rest of arrow I just watched to get caught up so I didn't miss any Flash stuff. This season I am actually enjoying for the most part... likely because for the first time in the series oliver is actually likable for me >.>
that being said he is to likable in his flashback, it's year 4 of the 5 years he was gone, he really should be a lot closer to season 1 oliver at this point. Not that I dislike the oliver in the flashback, it just feels out of place with expectations with previous seasons (aka I feel he has been getting nicer in the flashbacks instead of more assassiny)
Gotta build to the S5 flashbacks where Darkseid (possessing Frye) reveals part of The Island is a fallen rock from Apokolips, and kinda infects Oliver with the Anti-Life equation... and the series can end with Oliver arriving back in Starling City, and see Felicity across a room or some shit.
She breaks the Anti-Life equation just by being in Oliver's vicinity. Course, this also requires Darkseid possessing Tommy in the present day S5 stuff.
brotkasten
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Can't look worse than his season 1 flashback wig.
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