He fucked up and should be punished.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he did everything wrong, which culminated in him killing an innocent man, then refusing to administer aid and instead call his union rep to figure out what story he could craft to justify how much of a piece of shit he was.
What has separated many Asians from other people of color has been a complete lack of interest in fighting against white supremacy and buying into the privilege that certain Asian Americans are lucky enough to have. I'm an Asian man but I'm also a black man, so I don't get to just ignore all the shit that happens to black people on a daily basis, which is what I see far too often from Asian people and it's a shame.
Sitting on the sidelines is what has allowed the relationship between Asians and other minority groups to suffer. The sooner that Asian groups learn that their privilege can be taken away just as fast as it's given, the better off everyone will be.
I think the outrage is that, if he were white, he'd be walking away from this. He's still wrong and deserves his sentence, though.
And that's a stupid-ass thing to protest. If you want to protest white nypd officers not facing consequences for their actions, then that's great, but trying to put this guy forward as a victim is fucking insane. He's an awful human being who has ruined a family forever.
I don't disagree. I'm just saying that that's what I believe is the protesters' sentiment. However, just because he is clearly in the wrong here, it doesn't preclude him from being the victim of something else--in this case an unfair system.
It does warrant examination and bringing attention to that can take place without calling the killer a victim. The only thing he was a victim of was not being able to access the same privilege that the white officers were but his conviction was justified.
Yes, there is privilege for certain Asian groups and you ignoring that is a problem. I never said that Asians didn't face discrimination but the weJapanese, Korean, and Chinese people in particular have had access to privilege that other minority groups haven't. They've been held up as the standard that other minorities should meet and, in the last couple decades, haven't fought against that. There was a time when it was more common to see Asians stand alongside blacks and Latinos to protest the problems in this country but that is far too rare these days. Now you have a bunch of people who finally decide to protest white supremacy and privilege but it's only to call a piece of shit like Liang a victim.
I think we have the privilege of being ignored by pretty much all sides.
The Asian groups that I listed aren't disproportionately killed by the police, aren't followed in stores and assumed to be shoplifters, aren't stopped and frisked, don't get funneled to "less challenging" tracks simply because of their race, aren't placed in special Ed programs that they shouldn't be in because of their race, aren't routinely disqualified from jobs because of their names, don't face the same housing discrimination that blacks and latinos do, etc. Just like many white people, there are a lot of Asians who don't stop to think about what their ethnicity protects them from and want to act like because they or their families may have had setbacks from time to time that they don't benefit from any kind of privilege. That belief is just wrong.
If you limit the effect of affirmative action to academia and restrict the Asian label to Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and Indian people.
It's like you're deliberately trying to miss the point.
That was ignorant but esl is not the same as the special education classes I was referring to.
No, it's not false. Your individual experience doesn't change the fact that this is a problem that disproportionately affects black people in this country.
This has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Yes, at one point, Japanese Americans were discriminated against in this fashion (and were not only apologized to but given reparations). There is a long history, that still occurs today, of housing discrimination against black (and Latino to a lesser extent) that Asians do not face today.
I'm not forgetting anything. The point wasn't to list some instances where Asian people were discriminated against, it was to answer your question of how certain Asian groups have privilege. Yes, there are still instances where the groups I specified face racism and discrimination but, as a whole, they get to avoid a lot of what other minority groups experience. And again, I'm speaking of a specific subset of Asians. Hmong, Laotian, Cambodian, Vietnamese, etc typically do not benefit from the same privilege that the wealthier Asian groups do.
I explicitly said that Asians face discrimination but for the groups I was discussing, they have a privilege that other minority groups do not have and, no matter what anecdotal stories you have of times you faced discrimination, it does not erase reality. Asian groups used to protest right alongside blacks and Latinos but then a few Asian groups were allowed to be accepted slightly more than other minorities and many of those radical Asian groups just disappeared. And I'm not "going against my own people", I'm just tired of seeing Asians be so apathetic towards injustices faced by other minorities, then deciding to take up the cause of a piece of shit like Liang.
Turning Liang into a martyr is exactly the wrong way to go about protesting unfair sentencing and it's why those protestors are being criticized by other minorities.
Hope y'all have been well, though. The PL controversy... man I don't even know. It's sort of how I feel between Clinton and Sanders. It's not that I don't care, it's that I have no idea what I want to care about.
Again, you're offended about privilege without understanding the concept and you clearly don't understand the history of Asian immigrants in this country. The reason why Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Indian immigrants tend to have more success than most minority groups is because they were specifically recruited to come here and are highly-skilled/highly-educated. This is why the model minority stereotype is a problem because the Asian groups who have come here to escape poverty or war do not have the same success as the one's I listed. So no, most Asian parents did not "break the system", they were among the best of the best in the country they came from, were given preferential status when applying for visas/citizenship (or sought out by schools or businesses), and started with a leg up over even those born in this country.
It's not unfair to protest an unjust system but it is ridiculously tone-deaf to use a murderer who admitted to his crime as the victim of a tragedy. Everything that happened was of his own doing and many of these protestors have shown that they don't give a fuck about the system being racist, they're just mad that Liang wasn't able to get away with what he did like he probably would have if he was white.
I... Don't know much about comics. Iron Fist is a white dude who gets to learn the Asian ways. What's so bad about that?not serious
According to our comic expert Slayven, alot of us are used in a supporting way in comics. We have some heroes right now that are front and center. Largely, the new Hulk and Ms. Marvel.
Hiro Nakamura was pretty badass.
Sadly, we don't have huge Asian comic book heroes
Let's also not forget what happened with a black Firestorm, eesh (the backlash not the actual casting).
Would I have been happier if Iron Fist was Asian? Yes, and there's nothing wrong with sticking to your source material. But.... It would have been a prime candidate to cast an Asian actor and change things up. It would have been the closest we can get to an Asian hero because we know we won't be getting a live-action Asian Hulk anytime soon. Still disappointed to say the least.
Did you love Deadpool
Personally, I would rather it be Trump vs. Democrat than the others. I feel he is a less stinky piece of shit than Cruz, and I'm hoping he splinters the GOP base so they lose down-ticket Congressional seats.BTW US Asian GAF-
Have y'all been watching the IEM?
https://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_RCONV16.cfm
https://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_DCONV16.cfm
IEM is one of the better, more accurate markets out there IIRC.
I'm not going to lie.. I'm a little worried about a Trump v. Clinton, or Trump v. Sanders election. A part of me hopes Cruz or Rubio gets the nod (doubtful), just so they can lose.
You said that Asians were model minorities because they broke the system. This is false and ahistorical and ignores the experiences of other Asian groups in the US that have not been as successful as Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Indian immigrants.
You not seeing how wealthy, highly-educated, sought-after immigrants who were given priority when coming here have privilege in this country is a problem.
I'm dismissing your anecdotes about individuals having hard times because they are just that: anecdotes. They aren't the norm for the groups that I specified. And again, having privilege doesn't mean that everything is perfect all the time. You're making the exact same argument that white people make when made aware of the fact that they're part of the privileged class in this country.
I neither said nor suggested that. You don't know what privilege is and you have no idea about the history of Asian immigration to this country. Your belief that the Asian groups that have been successful were able to do so by breaking a system that actively discriminated against them is false and not backed up by reality. Yes, Asians have faced plenty of discrimination in this country but, as I've said over and over, certain Asian groups (members of which are saying that Liang was a victim) benefitted from being among the privileged in their countries and, in turn, were recruited to come here, where they were able to have access to privileges that other ethnic groups do not.