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[robox]

Uh. Hello everybody.

Man everyone in my fam that's around my age or younger are doing very big careers. I have such regrets about ... being a teacher. Sometimes I feel like I could have reached higher as a status.

Anyone else odd one out like that? I have such depression over my career choice.

what?? being a teacher is a very respectable profession. one of my best friends is a teacher, and i'm currently in transition and have thought about being a teacher because it could benefit people. (but i'm not sure my personality or way of thinking is suitable for it. perhaps i'll try tutoring or something as a trial.) but if you still enjoy it, be proud of it. it's the teachers that enable pupils to reach their potential. but if you don't like it, you can always change it up.

don't get caught up in comparisons and competitions for its own sake; that's not productive.

 

[vern]

Not sure if this counts as the food porn you guys are usually after in here, since I cooked it and it was my first time, but yeah... We were in Qinghai and got some food late at night at a Sichuan restaurant. White priviledge kicked in and the owner and workers drank with us and chatted while we ate. They wouldn't take our money... asked them if I could come back the next day and work in the kitchen since I don't know how to make Chinese food. The following day I came back as I said I would and they did actually let me in and we filmed it while I learned to cook... I learned a few dishes including this one, one of my favorite Sichuan dishes, 鱼香肉丝 (shredded pork dish). It tasted not bad, seeing as it was my first time (and the owner/chef told me exactly what to do).

Crossing China - Qinghai by Eric, on Flickr

Crossing China - Qinghai by Eric, on Flickr

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Also, the other part of my response to bunny is that I just got married. :-D

Congrats!

 

[Gully State]

How've y'all been? Sorry I've just started my job and haven't been up to date with this thread because I'm scared to browse GAF on my desktop haha.

@robo - have fun in Thailand!

@Gully - where are you going?

@everyone else - what's new in everyone's life ?

I'm starting medical school in a month. Also, speaking of marriage, fiancee and I have been doing wedding planning since Feb..I filling my head with knowledge of things I hope to quickly purge once we get married such as Chiavari chairs and table runners.

 

[ActStriker]

The cop in the Falcon Heights shooting was Chinese-American. I hope there isn't a rally for him like there was for Peter Liang.

 

[Gully State]

The cop in the Falcon Heights shooting was Chinese-American. I hope there isn't a rally for him like there was for Peter Liang.

I saw the video...gonna smh if there's a subset of the Asian community that decides to use this as a social justice rallying point. I didn't support Peter Liang as a rally cry nor will I support this guy. All I hope is that this doesn't further serve to be a dividing point for Black and Asian relations in the US.

 

[Septimus Prime]

The cop in the Falcon Heights shooting was Chinese-American. I hope there isn't a rally for him like there was for Peter Liang.

I saw the video...gonna smh if there's a subset of the Asian community that decides to use this as a social justice rallying point. I didn't support Peter Liang as a rally cry nor will I support this guy. All I hope is that this doesn't further serve to be a dividing point for Black and Asian relations in the US.

The case seems pretty cut and dry, but if it ends up that he gets indicted while the white cop who shot Alton Sterling gets to walk, there probably will be rallies. Both of these assholes need to be put away.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

I'm trying to stay out of what's happening. I'm just so done with the policing in the U.S.

Why, why are Americans and our Policemen so afraid of African Americans/Black Americans? I already know the answer to that. Just wanted to let it out. *sighs*

Hope that officer gets prison time for what he did. No excuses there. Dude was scared and shot another man in his car with his wife and kid.

 

[Gully State]

Eh I'm glad they ruled the way they did for Peter Liang, but this is a completely different case. If the officer is Chinese American that's the only similarity. Otherwise, from all accounts, this sounded like straight up murder without malicious intent (note, I mean, he didn't want to kill the guy, he panicked and shot the dude).

Hope he gets convicted for murder. I have faith in our justice system for this case. I doubt he'll be let off because he's not white, but it's one of those things where I don't care since he needs to be held accountable for what he did. IMHO Peter Liang's case was different since that was a tragic accident as far as I see it.

There's a very small Asian community in MN. Too bad this cop was Asian American; the racism is going to be reallllyyyy fun to see on GAF.

I was fine with Liang's ruling considering he didn't point and shoot at the person. It's just that I didn't support the whole movement behind it. He was guilty of negligence...

On a separate note, reading shit about Jarred Ha though really makes my blood boil. I'm glad he got acquitted for his charges but the damage is already done.

In addition to being criminally charged, Ha, an aspiring accountant, was kicked out of the UW.

According to Wagnild, the UW has sent Ha a proposed resolution that doesn’t involve any kind of finding or stipulation as to fault. He said it appears Ha will have to reapply to both the UW and the Foster School of Business.

On Friday, Ha’s mother, Dale Ha, said the UW has acknowledged her son acted in self-defense.

“The UW proposal, he has to sign a form absolving the UW of any responsibility,” she said, noting Harper and the women involved in the fight have never faced any sanctions from the school. “I was like, ‘You’re not signing that agreement.’ They’re not absolved.”

 

[Cybit]

Congratulations! When's the baby coming?

Spoiler

The correct answer is not for a while.

Between chemo for me and my wife's genetics - probably never. :-/

Not sure if this counts as the food porn you guys are usually after in here, since I cooked it and it was my first time, but yeah... We were in Qinghai and got some food late at night at a Sichuan restaurant. White priviledge kicked in and the owner and workers drank with us and chatted while we ate. They wouldn't take our money... asked them if I could come back the next day and work in the kitchen since I don't know how to make Chinese food. The following day I came back as I said I would and they did actually let me in and we filmed it while I learned to cook... I learned a few dishes including this one, one of my favorite Sichuan dishes, 鱼香肉丝 (shredded pork dish). It tasted not bad, seeing as it was my first time (and the owner/chef told me exactly what to do).

Crossing China - Qinghai by Eric, on Flickr

Crossing China - Qinghai by Eric, on Flickr

Pretty pictures!

 

[SystemBug]

Sorry to hear about the Krupal

Is everything gonna be okay?

 

[Zynx]

Uh. Hello everybody.

Man everyone in my fam that's around my age or younger are doing very big careers. I have such regrets about ... being a teacher. Sometimes I feel like I could have reached higher as a status.

Anyone else odd one out like that? I have such depression over my career choice.

(Lurker finally posting in thread alert!)

If status really is the primary reason you have regrets, I don't know what to say except that I think status isn't something one should be focused on. Sure, there are people who will treat you differently based on your status and there can be material benefits to having status as well, but are those the people you really want to bond with?

The big Asian focus on doctors/engineers/whatever - ugh. Do you enjoy teaching, do you find it meaningful? I mean, if you don't, you can still look to pursue another career. But I hope you don't pursue something just for the sake of status and end up finding that path miserable as well.

 

[SRG01]

I'll say this as a teacher/instructor for many years now: the work can drain you if you can't find something invigorating or inspiring out of it. Teaching is more than just a job -- it's a lifestyle and mindset that you have to live day in and day out.

Everyone has their own idea of what is personally rewarding, so there's no shame in admitting that you want to pursue another career path. Many teachers do.

However, I will say this: seeing a troubled student understand something is quite possibly one of the most personally rewarding and humbling things I've ever experienced in my life, next to holding a newborn.

 

[Cybit]

Sorry to hear about the Krupal

Is everything gonna be okay?

Eh; it's nothing that hasn't been expected for like 15+ years now. ;-)

 

[BLOODED_hands]

David So made a video about all of what's happening. I think it's a good video and it sucks that he actually had to tell some people why Black Lives Matter.

Justice In The Justice System?

Jennifer Chung also made a video and she usually doesn't. She encourages more Asians to speak up and support our black friends.

Asians Americans For #BlackLivesMatter

 

[Llyranor]

Uh. Hello everybody.

Man everyone in my fam that's around my age or younger are doing very big careers. I have such regrets about ... being a teacher. Sometimes I feel like I could have reached higher as a status.

Anyone else odd one out like that? I have such depression over my career choice.

I sometimes wish I was a teacher. You're one of the most important pillars of our society's future.

And I say that despite having a 'high status' profession. Job satisfaction, security, and salary are nice perks. But the 'status' it gives me I consider worthless.

 

[zeemumu]

Uh. Hello everybody.

Man everyone in my fam that's around my age or younger are doing very big careers. I have such regrets about ... being a teacher. Sometimes I feel like I could have reached higher as a status.

Anyone else odd one out like that? I have such depression over my career choice.

As long as you're happy doing what you're doing and it's a financially stable way of making a living for you then you shouldn't feel bad about it. We always have a huge need for good teachers, after all. If you ever grow tired of teaching for whatever reason and want to switch to something else then you're free to start working your way towards doing so, but try not to worry about what everyone else is doing while you're occupied with your own life. It'll only drive you insane because the possibilities are infinite and you'll paralyze yourself with choice.

 

[talisayNon]

Eh I'm glad they ruled the way they did for Peter Liang, but this is a completely different case. If the officer is Chinese American that's the only similarity. Otherwise, from all accounts, this sounded like straight up murder without malicious intent (note, I mean, he didn't want to kill the guy, he panicked and shot the dude).

Hope he gets convicted for murder. I have faith in our justice system for this case. I doubt he'll be let off because he's not white, but it's one of those things where I don't care since he needs to be held accountable for what he did. IMHO Peter Liang's case was different since that was a tragic accident as far as I see it.

There's a very small Asian community in MN. Too bad this cop was Asian American; the racism is going to be reallllyyyy fun to see on GAF.

.

 

[robox]

Advertising my Instagram account: www_sq

It has my travel photos. There's about a week lag behind my latest whereabouts. And a distinct lack of food photos.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Instagram? Mine's pretty boring. I live a pretty boring life. Ain't nobody got time for that.

The last uploaded thing was a small video of my friends doing some drunk karaoke in Hmong. That's probably the craziest thing I've uploaded to Instagram. That was just this past weekend.

There's also no food porn. I do upload, from time to time, what I'm drinking for the weekend.

Edit: forgot my IG name: datlordude

 

[Moonkid]

Mines /namonthewoon

The most exciting thing that happened to my gram was Killer Mike liking a photo I took at my High School ball.

Advertising my Instagram account: www_sq

It has my travel photos. There's about a week lag behind my latest whereabouts. And a distinct lack of food photos.

Looks neat , followed.

 

[robox]

My usage def ramped up over a couple years. I use it to follow media and things I like as well as spy on my friends since they post less. But it's become my preferred logging platform.

 

[vern]

I'm @ crossingchina on Instagram. I guess most of you all know that already. Will add everyone who I don't follow when I get the chance later.. Primarily photos from China obviously but I've got lots of other stuff as well. Heading back to Nepal in two weeks. Probably some Laos for a few days here in the next week as well.

Some recent shots here from Western China, these are also on Instagram.

Crossing China - Lanzhou by Eric, on Flickr

Crossing China - Wulumuqi by Eric, on Flickr

Crossing China - Wulumuqi by Eric, on Flickr

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Need to upload my pic of the ribs we ate at the ribfest up here. Finna put it on imgur and instagram and then here. Also will upload some pics from Bayview too.

How are y'all doing? Saw vern's photo on instagram a few days ago, sick. We went up all the way to Bayfield, WI..... I'll go ahead and say it - I really don't like small towns like that. The death stares from white folks are something else. The scenery is beautiful, yes, but am I willing to trade it for more familiar faces? Yes and in a heartbeat.

Wisconsin is also known for being racist so..... There's that.

The stares definitely bothered me but let them stare. Let them gaze at people who look different compared to them. We don't bite, white people.

 

[robox]

speaking of which, i'm blown away by the cultural mixing in malaysia. it's a wide spectrum from yellow to black-brown and all look to be in harmony.

and it's my first time seeing so many hajibs. at first, i hate to say it, i was a bit intimidated, but the people wearing them and the custom is all a very normal part of life that i'm getting used to

 

[vern]

speaking of which, i'm blown away by the cultural mixing in malaysia. it's a wide spectrum from yellow to black-brown and all look to be in harmony.

and it's my first time seeing so many hajibs. at first, i hate to say it, i was a bit intimidated, but the people wearing them and the custom is all a very normal part of life that i'm getting used to

Malaysia is awesome, and there are white people too (don't forget us white people 😩 Always overlooked by society). It is a very well integrated place and the food is great. Singapore too. Hope to go back and see more of Malaysia sooner than later.

Why were you intimidated though? Are you a girl? Where are you from?

And to the blooded hands... Yea Wisconsin sucks. Worst 6 months of my life were spent there. Complete opposite of Malaysia, super segregated. Cold and bleak and culturally barren, beer was great though.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Bayfield, WI

Devil's Island

Deschutes XPA - First Taste

More beer from Bayfield

More alcohol

At the beach hungover

The only food pic

Ribs at the Ribfest by the Mystic Lake Casino

 

[BLOODED_hands]

And to the blooded hands... Yea Wisconsin sucks. Worst 6 months of my life were spent there. Complete opposite of Malaysia, super segregated. Cold and bleak and culturally barren, beer was great though.

Yea.... I can't imagine living there tbh. I'm sorry to be mean to white people, lol. I keep forgetting you are white. I meant the white people in Wisconsin

 

[vern]

Yea.... I can't imagine living there tbh. I'm sorry to be mean to white people, lol. I keep forgetting you are white. I meant the white people in Wisconsin

It's all good, I'm not really the type to get offended. Plus white people are embarrassing a lot of the time. Just look at this election lol...

I was only there for business, November to April a few years back when they had that winter vortex. I was the only person from my company there... my boss sent me from China to oversee our construction project. He sent me because I was the only American in our company at the time and didn't need a visa. I knew nothing about construction. So I sat in an empty office while snow never stopped falling for the entire winter. Once or twice a week I would go to the construction site and say "yep, looks like a building, keep up the good work." I'd take some photos before I froze to death then hurry back to the apartment and drink wine alone to take away the pain and boredom.

The people there weren't that bad, just not exactly worldly. And again, super segregated over there in Milwaukee. Not my cup of tea.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Sounds like a cozy job, haha. I'm not too fond of our sister state tbh. But it is what it is :/

I can't tell you how many Trump signs I saw when we were driving through and to Bayfield.....

 

[vern]

Sounds like a cozy job, haha. I'm not too fond of our sister state tbh. But it is what it is :/

I can't tell you how many Trump signs I saw when we were driving through and to Bayfield.....

I don't know if you can tell but I'm not exactly the type of person that enjoys sitting around doing nothing. Especially not in a city in which I know no one, and the temperature is below freezing. Otherwise yeah it was cozy, but I begged to come back to China as soon as humanly possible. He later actually hired a local guy to deal with the construction projects... You know a guy that had real experience doing that sort of thing. Would have been smarter to do that from the start.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

I don't know if you can tell but I'm not exactly the type of person that enjoys sitting around doing nothing. Especially not in a city in which I know no one, and the temperature is below freezing. Otherwise yeah it was cozy, but I begged to come back to China as soon as humanly possible. He later actually hired a local guy to deal with the construction projects... You know a guy that had real experience doing that sort of thing. Would have been smarter to do that from the start.

Lol, that's so weird. Why would he send you in the first place? Did he know you had little to no experience with construction projects?

 

[vern]

Lol, that's so weird. Why would he send you in the first place? Did he know you had little to no experience with construction projects?

Of course he knew. He sent me because China often makes no sense. He bought me an online course on construction fundamentals and a plane ticket to Wisconsin and said "good luck." For the most part it was fine, I just deferred to the foreman on everything. If he said it was too cold to work or pour cement or whatever I said ok. When there were a couple of problems that came up or "change orders" that seemed outside of my ability to comprehend and make an informed decision then I would just pass it along to the folks in China. I was basically just a guy to rubber stamp decisions locally. Super fun.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Bwahahahaha, that sounds super annoying. I probably would have done the same thing. I like figuring stuff out as much as the next person but uh..... I can't see myself being that curious and knowledge hungry. Sure, send me on a few days to a week or two and tell me what it is. Great. But for six months and in a state that you should have no business being in? I'm out.

Six months, here's a guide and do whatever. Buh bye. Fuck outta here. It's either you respect my time and my skills or you don't. Plain and simple. It seems like they didn't respect both your time and your skills.

 

[vern]

Bwahahahaha, that sounds super annoying. I probably would have done the same thing. I like figuring stuff out as much as the next person but uh..... I can't see myself being that curious and knowledge hungry. Sure, send me on a few days to a week or two and tell me what it is. Great. But for six months and in a state that you should have no business being in? I'm out.

Six months, here's a guide and do whatever. Buh bye. Fuck outta here. It's either you respect my time and my skills or you don't. Plain and simple. It seems like they didn't respect both your time and your skills.

Eh or he just saw an easy way out. The thinking in China is sometimes as dumb as "oh he's a laowai, he'll be friends with every other laowai..." or its equivalent, which in this case was "he's American, he'll be fine in any environment in the USA." And he figured it'd be easier than himself flying out there and interviewing people and dealing with it himself. Plus if he hired someone with actual skills and experience to do that job he would need to pay twice as much probably. Anyway it worked out for him, he saved money by having me do it, the building is completed now and fully rented out. I got some different experience and got to see Wisconsin (at last!), and made it back to China and a much more interesting life now. Plus I had internet that actually worked for half a year that was pretty cool. No complaints now. At the time it sucked. Shoveling snow ughhhhh.

 

[robox]

Why were you intimidated though? Are you a girl? Where are you from?

first time in a place where islam is a major religion, a religion that's gotten a bad rep in recent history. plus reading about laws that that try to ban burkas, which are related to but rarer than hajibs, without really understanding what they're about. are they a form of oppression or just a custom? i didn't know what to think. it makes me understand the fear that trumpers would have

i had a notion about posting this on OT but i wouldn't enjoy the ensuing shitshow

 

[vern]

first time in a place where islam is a major religion, a religion that's gotten a bad rep in recent history. plus reading about laws that that try to ban burkas, which are related to but rarer than hajibs, without really understanding what they're about. are they a form of oppression or just a custom? i didn't know what to think. it makes me understand the fear that trumpers would have

i had a notion about posting this on OT but i wouldn't enjoy the ensuing shitshow

Malaysia is a peaceful place though, I guess irrational fear is just that though, irrational. It's not really something you can control. Glad you have been able to overcome it though.

P.S. Scary?

Kuala Lumpur by Eric, on Flickr


Lol jk... have fun there.

 

[SystemBug]

first time in a place where islam is a major religion, a religion that's gotten a bad rep in recent history. plus reading about laws that that try to ban burkas, which are related to but rarer than hajibs, without really understanding what they're about. are they a form of oppression or just a custom? i didn't know what to think. it makes me understand the fear that trumpers would have

i had a notion about posting this on OT but i wouldn't enjoy the ensuing shitshow

lmao,

now imagine all the muslim women not wearing hijabs or burkas!!!

they are more of us than you think, hiding in plain sight

 

[SRG01]

lmao,

now imagine all the muslim women not wearing hijabs or burkas!!!

they are more of us than you think, hiding in plain sight

All but one of my Muslim friends are women, and all of them don't wear hijabs despite being fairly devout

 

[SystemBug]

All but one of my Muslim friends are women, and all of them don't wear hijabs despite being fairly devout

Yeah, I have a huge family and the majority of women don't wear a Hijab. That's why I always get so irked by the portrayal of some areas such as Pakistan in western shows that show case the whole region as that. Obviously in some areas countries more Muslim women will wear a hijab (whether its mandatory or not)

 

[Seductivpancakes]

So season 4 of Vikings is available on Hulu and I started watching it last night.

An Chinese character is introduced. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it. I don't hate but it feels, weird. I mean the show isn't about historical accuracy, I'm just getting rubbed the wrong way.

For those who don't care for spoilers:

Spoiler

She was kidnapped by pirates in the Red Sea, sold off to the Franks and ended up in the main character's household as a slave when he was sieging Paris

 

[CapNBritain]

So my wife and I were hanging out with a friend in downtown LA over the weekend and we started talking about her/their experiences with men. They are both short Asian women so naturally they had a lot to say. There was a lot of the standard stuff, such as not being taken seriously at first in professional settings because their height and youthful appearances. Eventually the conversation transitioned into harassment. My friend talked about how she was always getting unnecessary attention when walking around downtown LA (catcalling, shouts of Hello!, etc.) and then said that almost every time it was from a black guy. Actually she used a Cantonese term that I didn't understand. Both her and my wife laughed at me because apparently every Chinese person is supposed to know this phrase that means black guys. This kind of made me uncomfortable because 1) having a casual term for black people that every Chinese person supposedly knows kinda sounds racist-ish and 2) I'm Taiwanese so why the hell would I know Cantonese (my Mandarin is also atrocious and when will the mocking stop)?

We then got into a conversation about perception. I mean, she agreed that not all black men are aggressive towards women, but in her experience, in downtown LA, aggressive men were overwhelmingly black. She posited that there is a negative perception (among Chinese people? Women? Not sure) towards black people and that it was up to the black community to address it. It just wasn't realistic for them to expect everyone to magically get over their prejudices. She likened it to women getting roofied at bars. Both she and my wife never leave their drinks unattended. It's unfortunate that they always have to be on guard, and in a perfect world they wouldn't have to, but they do anyway. They were quick to point out that if a woman is roofied, it isn't her fault and it is completely on the scumbag potential rapist. But because the world is the way it is and people are the way they are, they do everything they can to safeguard themselves.

Sorry to ramble on for so long but I've just been thinking about all of this. Is there this perception about black people in the Chinese community? Is it just Chinese women? Americanized Chinese women? Is the Cantonese term for black person racist or at least used in a racist manner most of the time? I have 0 experience with how other people, especially the Chinese or Taiwanese community views black people so it would be interesting to get more insight.

 

[Zoe]

Is the Cantonese term for black person racist or at least used in a racist manner most of the time?

SVU has taught me that it's "black devil" (and "white devil" for whites, obviously).

 

[Llyranor]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gweilo (+ variations)

 

[CapNBritain]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gweilo (+ variations)

Thanks! I think the term they used was hakgwei, which means black ghost/devil. According to your link it's not really racist maybe? But is it used in a racist way? I mean, when most Chinese people use that term, is the context good like they mean black person as an identifier, or is it just a N word substitute? Would you use it to describe a person, use it jokingly on a friend, or to shout at strangers like a Chinese version of a racist redneck?

 

[cdyhybrid]

So my wife and I were hanging out with a friend in downtown LA over the weekend and we started talking about her/their experiences with men. They are both short Asian women so naturally they had a lot to say. There was a lot of the standard stuff, such as not being taken seriously at first in professional settings because their height and youthful appearances. Eventually the conversation transitioned into harassment. My friend talked about how she was always getting unnecessary attention when walking around downtown LA (catcalling, shouts of Hello!, etc.) and then said that almost every time it was from a black guy. Actually she used a Cantonese term that I didn't understand. Both her and my wife laughed at me because apparently every Chinese person is supposed to know this phrase that means black guys. This kind of made me uncomfortable because 1) having a casual term for black people that every Chinese person supposedly knows kinda sounds racist-ish and 2) I'm Taiwanese so why the hell would I know Cantonese (my Mandarin is also atrocious and when will the mocking stop)?

We then got into a conversation about perception. I mean, she agreed that not all black men are aggressive towards women, but in her experience, in downtown LA, aggressive men were overwhelmingly black. She posited that there is a negative perception (among Chinese people? Women? Not sure) towards black people and that it was up to the black community to address it. It just wasn't realistic for them to expect everyone to magically get over their prejudices. She likened it to women getting roofied at bars. Both she and my wife never leave their drinks unattended. It's unfortunate that they always have to be on guard, and in a perfect world they wouldn't have to, but they do anyway. They were quick to point out that if a woman is roofied, it isn't her fault and it is completely on the scumbag potential rapist. But because the world is the way it is and people are the way they are, they do everything they can to safeguard themselves.

Sorry to ramble on for so long but I've just been thinking about all of this. Is there this perception about black people in the Chinese community? Is it just Chinese women? Americanized Chinese women? Is the Cantonese term for black person racist or at least used in a racist manner most of the time? I have 0 experience with how other people, especially the Chinese or Taiwanese community views black people so it would be interesting to get more insight.

There are perceptions of black people (and other racial groups for that matter) in every racial group.

 

[Llyranor]

Thanks! I think the term they used was hakgwei, which means black ghost/devil. According to your link it's not really racist maybe? But is it used in a racist way? I mean, when most Chinese people use that term, is the context good like they mean black person as an identifier, or is it just a N word substitute? Would you use it to describe a person, use it jokingly on a friend, or to shout at strangers like a Chinese version of a racist redneck?

I wouldn't know, but I always thought it was mainly just a pejorative term.

And unfortunately, I am pretty sure a significant proportion of most Asian communities are racist towards black people.

 

[CapNBritain]

There are perceptions of black people (and other racial groups for that matter) in every racial group.

Yeah I know. I was just wondering what they were among Chinese people, and I guess Asian people in general. It's just fascinating to me because I have basically 0 connection to Chinese culture beyond food. And it's also interesting to me because I don't think Chinese (or at least Taiwanese) people have the deep historical connections/conflicts with black people that white Americans do.

I actually don't know what my parents think about black people. But if they harbored prejudiced/racist thoughts against them, then I would wonder why. They came over from Taiwan as adults and thus probably had never seen a black person until then.

I wouldn't know, but I always thought it was mainly just a pejorative term.

And unfortunately, I am pretty sure a significant proportion of most Asian communities are racist towards black people.

Hmmmm I wonder if I should say something if it comes up again then. I'm sure the defense will be, everyone says it and we don't mean any harm. I guess I could respond with, I'm sure that's what some people say about the N word.

 

[ActStriker]

Thanks! I think the term they used was hakgwei, which means black ghost/devil. According to your link it's not really racist maybe? But is it used in a racist way? I mean, when most Chinese people use that term, is the context good like they mean black person as an identifier, or is it just a N word substitute? Would you use it to describe a person, use it jokingly on a friend, or to shout at strangers like a Chinese version of a racist redneck?

Partially at least? I can't say it's 100% not-racist in its use.

The all-around polite way would just be hakyen 黑人

 

[Llyranor]

Hmmmm I wonder if I should say something if it comes up again then. I'm sure the defense will be, everyone says it and we don't mean any harm. I guess I could respond with, I'm sure that's what some people say about the N word.

I've had a white friend refer himself as a gwailo jokingly. I'm not sure how much it actually offends white people.