Honestly the majority will just think you're a being yellow supremacist for merely breaching the topic. Complete double standard when even in that thread, there was discussion about the troubles facing dark-skinned versus light skinned African-American actresses. When it comes to Asians though...
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As someone else said, she's GAF's Asian Devolution.
Or a mosquito to a blue lamp.
I think it's moreso the fact that legitimate racial concerns by Asians are often brushed under the rug or played down in modern society. Just because many Asians are well-integrated doesn't mean we don't suffer from issues of inequality.
edit: One of the key differences, I think, is that many Asians have long cultural memories despite high levels of integration. We bring our cultures and values with us, even if it's two or three generations deep.
edit: One of the key differences, I think, is that many Asians have long cultural memories despite high levels of integration. We bring our cultures and values with us, even if it's two or three generations deep.
Zoe
Member
While that was poor form, the post was not made in GirlGAF. It was in a thread discussing abortions.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
Sorry, I'm in a fairly jaded mood from the GAF threads the last couple of days
I will quote myself earlier in this thread
"As an asian, understand that in the US, no one gives a shit about being racist towards you. As far as the rest of this country is concerned, racism against Asians is no big deal. No amount of explaining will fix this."
We do suffer from issues of inequality. But humanity often likes to fight for superiority in the name of equality (one of the reasons MLK, Gandhi, and Mandela are regarded so highly is because they specifically did not do this). Because Orwell had it right in Animal Farm; everyone wants equality, but many people want to be more equal than others.
As Asians, because we're not in lockstep with them, we're not wanted by those groups, and will get shit on by them. :/
A big part of this is that there's no broad cultural memory/history in the West of Asian exclusion and discrimination despite the fact that many heinous things did indeed happen. And that's excluding the obvious ones like the Japanese internment (ie. Asian franchisement in Canada).
Edit: cultural history as in what is actually remembered and retold.
I'm back from my vacation, and bunny is banned?
For those who suggested stuff.... We ate Papa Johns twice, Burger King twice, Wendy's once, and Taco Bell once. Killed any weight loss progress I had and then some.
The only saving grace was going to Lotus of Siam in Vegas and wurstkuche in LA... In N Out was aite.
Anyways, my sister got to go see Eddie Huang, get a book signed, and talk about where to go in Taiwan. So jealous.
For those who suggested stuff.... We ate Papa Johns twice, Burger King twice, Wendy's once, and Taco Bell once. Killed any weight loss progress I had and then some.
The only saving grace was going to Lotus of Siam in Vegas and wurstkuche in LA... In N Out was aite.
Anyways, my sister got to go see Eddie Huang, get a book signed, and talk about where to go in Taiwan. So jealous.
InsaneZero
Member
Eh, people shouldn't be avoiding threads just because they are afraid of getting banned. If there's no pushback for behavior you don't agree with, then that just implicitly encourages that behavior.
bunny has the subtlety of a jackhammer and tends to get really riled up in explaining her viewpoints, but I don't think she's wrong for going into the thread and pointing out what she had problems with.
Prax
Member
I am not sure why she was banned for that post either (if that was even the reason????).
Bunny says a lot of controversial things or has weird thought processes sometimes, but I thought she was just explaining her thought process in a neutral manner for the Psylocke thread.
Maybe she just riled up one too many people.
I tend to avoid a lot of threads like that because it's too mentally draining to keep reading. (e.g. feminism/sexism & racism-focused threads that devolve into disingenuous intellectualism of the topics lol).
Anyway, I didn't even know Asian-GAF as a community thread existed, so I'm glad to have stumbled upon it! So I guess I'm just putting my stamp on representation in here though I don't know if I'll be posting much!
Bunny says a lot of controversial things or has weird thought processes sometimes, but I thought she was just explaining her thought process in a neutral manner for the Psylocke thread.
Maybe she just riled up one too many people.
I tend to avoid a lot of threads like that because it's too mentally draining to keep reading. (e.g. feminism/sexism & racism-focused threads that devolve into disingenuous intellectualism of the topics lol).
Anyway, I didn't even know Asian-GAF as a community thread existed, so I'm glad to have stumbled upon it! So I guess I'm just putting my stamp on representation in here though I don't know if I'll be posting much!
Gully State
Member
My man....did you try the rattlesnake and rabbit sausage?
Bunny got banned because she used caps and had a history of being banned....at least that's my view of the situation. I didn't see anything offensive about her post other than big bold letters...
Septimus Prime
Member
I really just meant that for myself. Even bunny going in there, posting some snark, and getting banned for it is predictable at this point. I know you guys are all saying that her latest post isn't ban-worthy, but I'm fairly confident that she's already rubbed some mod(s) the wrong way, to the point where the mod(s) just think, oh, her again, and pull the ban trigger for the slightest offense.
For the record, I don't think she's wrong, either, and I probably even agree with her viewpoint. I just don't care to keep trying to talk about it with people who clearly don't care about it.
It's not the fear of getting banned, it's that people in those types of threads tend to be extremely self-righteous, hypocritical, ignorant, and basically bring out the worst of themselves. Which then often brings out the worst in yourself. Reason 234089234 I would never be a NeoGAF mod is that I would probably lock those types of threads and ban the thread creators in a millisecond for shitposting / trolling.
Plus, the majority of people in those threads just want to talk, they don't want to listen.
I understand that those threads are open for discussion because there can be discussions about those people who express very obviously nasty, unfounded beliefs about women and how they're perceived in media. I also think that letting these people speak allows other like-minded posters to feel a safety net in expressing their thoughts and by doing so, exposes them and in turn, they all eventually get banned.
It's just unfortunate that some other posters get swept along with the ban tsunami. I also don't understand fully why some people do get banned when they have valid points, but I've only seen bunny posting in a handful of feminism-related threads and I've never found her to be problematic.
It's just unfortunate that some other posters get swept along with the ban tsunami. I also don't understand fully why some people do get banned when they have valid points, but I've only seen bunny posting in a handful of feminism-related threads and I've never found her to be problematic.
Septimus Prime
Member
To be fair, I doubt the OP of that thread even knew that that storm was a-brewin'. I imagine he was intending to post a thread about comicbook and movie news.
My indication that something was afoot was seeing that thread, which shouldn't have had that many posts to begin with, blew up with hundreds of posts in a few hours.
Hellll yea. Got that and the Sun Dried Tomato and Mozz. Freaking delicious. Made me feel less salty about missing Hot Dougs in Chicago while it was still open.
As with bunny, I feel like having some outspoken voices is necessary for a culture that has so few of them. So, there's something to be said about not backing down from what you believe in. However... I do think it's thus counterproductive if current strategies of posting lead to bannings. That doesn't push forward the dialogue at all, and instead the focus is on "oh, banned again."
I'm just saying this not having combed through what's led her to being banned in the past.
Septimus Prime
Member
So here's something that happened today: we interviewed an extremely unqualified female applicant, but when we asked her the "Why should we hire you" question, her answer was (paraphrased) "Because I'm a girl, and your industry needs more females." Ugh.
UGH.
UGH.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
Zoe
Member
Ugggggh
Septimus Prime
Member
Yeah, she was pretty young, and it's an entry level tester position, but wow was that answer bad. I might have let it slide, too, if she wasn't so bad with the rest of the interview.
Are you available for overtime if it is necessary for your project? "Yes and no..." WTF?
Can you define the term "bug"? "A bug is a glitch." What?
Lots of other winning answers like that. Her practical test, where we asked her to play a game for a bit and call out some bugs, was a disaster, too.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
OMG
That is so bad
Haha... I've had my share of incredulous interviews myself, being in HR :> But this year has been really good :> We implemented that they have to pass certain tests and questionnaire first before we interview. Seems to weed out some problem candidates haha...
Those answers of hers though XD "A bug is a glitch"
LOL
Septimus Prime
Member
This sounds like a programming position... surely you guys had a copy of her transcripts?
(Seriously though, I work in a Science/Engineering field and if I were to own a company, I'd definitely ask for transcripts even if it's not quite industry norm to do so.)
Zoe
Member
He said tester, aka the bottom of the barrel... When I worked at a casino gaming company, the vast majority of testers even in the "more qualified" positions did not have degrees.
Mr. Wedgewood
Member
Dead Prince
Banned
haha. someone asked me if i glow when i drink.
MushroomSamba
Member
Yep! I get this! I was surprised early on when people didn't know why my face was turning red...I actually thought the condition was fairly common knowledge, lol. Apparently not!
Anyway, the pepcid solution seems to work hit-or-miss with me. Maybe other conditions like time duration between pepcid and drink, the amount of drinking, the kind of alcohol, whether I've had anything to eat, etc. factor in as well.
But whatever, if it works, it works. If not, I can deal.
Septimus Prime
Member
Yeah, the requirements for testers varies significantly by industry (which is why Glassdoor kind of breaks down if you try to look up salary information for them). In my industry, video games, the pay is depressingly low because of the huge amount of people who want to get their foot in the door of the industry*. If you look at salary aggregating sites like Glassdoor and search for "QA Tester," though, those usually also include software, chemical, and materials experts and engineers, who all command far, far, far higher salaries. A tester for, say, Konami, and a tester for Pepsi are not at all the same. Sadly, game testers are very easy to replace**.
*I don't know if I recommend this path, personally. It's extremely hard to "escape" QA, and precious few do it. It's even hard to move upward in the department, since there are so many overqualified testers and so few management positions. My first lead, who already had 10+ years of experience when I started in 2003, is still just a Senior Coordinator at his company. I ended leapfrogging him by quite a lot, but it was mostly from luck in choosing where to work.
**Good testers are not at all easy to replace. Good luck convincing top management of their value, though.
EDIT: I don't get Asian glow when I drink.
Gully State
Member
I don't get Asian glow either...My dad does but my mom doesn't. Thanks mom...
FallingEdge
Member
Stop what you are doing and go watch the new star wars teaser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs
I totally understand.
Good testers are few are far between but the problem is that there's such a low turnover rate in QA, you can't keep those good testers for very long because of inconsistent work, so they end up going on hiatus for quite a while and that's just not feasible to sustain a living. You end up losing those people while having to sort through tons of other testers who somehow got through school without knowing any grammar -- in either recognizing it in the game script or even in their own writing.
Also, the vitriol QA people get from some marketing and PR people is just unbelievable at times.
Septimus Prime
Member
There is such a thing as negative productivity. There are people that are so bad or so disruptive that they impede the work of others around them. It's paramount to weed these people out--ideally from the entire industry, but that's not easy to do--and I would personally love to take their salaries and divvy them up among those more deserving. That isn't going to happen anytime soon, though. I can get the bad ones out and generally keep them out, but I can't do much about the salary situation. Worse is that many clients expect X amount of bodies for Y amount of time (which is not their fault, since they don't know each tester) as if every person can get the same amount done in the same amount of time.
IAmtheFMan
Member
Yep I get it. It used to be though that I would glow, but still not be drunk really. It would take me like 3-4 more drinks to actually feel buzzed.
But now in my 30's, I... can't drink anymore. 1-2 drinks max. Otherwise I get really bad muscle cramps and pain.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I don't get it, but goddamn, that's some useful info.
Cow Mengde
Banned
What? There are definitely people like that. I've seen it in plenty of my relatives.
ActStriker
Member
I am so glad I don't glow.
Troubled Bat
Member
My time has been taken away by Mortal Kombat X, and my cousins. I feel I missed out on a whole lot. ⊙﹏⊙
Also, is bunny perm'd? D:
Edit: Raaaaaaah!!!!!!! I totally forgot I had this avatar......... (〒︿〒
I lost an avatar bet... (´･_･`)
Also, is bunny perm'd? D:
Edit: Raaaaaaah!!!!!!! I totally forgot I had this avatar......... (〒︿〒
I lost an avatar bet... (´･_･`)
Yeah never happened to me either!