You left something out ::snicker::
But yea I've noticed that it's a lot harder for Asian men to date outside of their race compared to females. Pretty interesting.
Asian men and interracial dating
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You left something out ::snicker::
But yea I've noticed that it's a lot harder for Asian men to date outside of their race compared to females. Pretty interesting.
I feel Jackie saw the market, and played it perfectly.
He saw the clumsy goofy Asian stereotype that keeps them docile and makes Westerners be at ease, and added in the action part which keeps them entertained.
He, as an entity, is probably everything westerners want in an Asian star. Strong, physically, but just weak enough on the personality side where he will never be a threat to your manhood. The perfect "Asian American"
My point exactly. He is what is exposed to as what an Asian protagonist looks like. Meanwhile any aggressive and strong Asian men that derives away from Chan are portrayed as villains whom have an unhappy hot girl captive and in need of saving by a white man.
CherryWoodFuton
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I gotta admit it was pretty boss seeing Han making out with Gisele at the end of Fast Five
Chairmanchuck
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Do you believe people really think like that?
Yip-Man was pretty popular here in europe as well as a lot of other serious martial arts-movies.
I never heard of anyone that thinks like that.
I would rather think, because they come from a different culture, they behave differently than a lot of westerners. I can tell you, here in Germany people go to parties, get drunk, go to the gym to get muscles to impress ladies and such things.
Chinese here go in restaurants, sing KTV and do different things.
I dont think thats bad though. I prefer the latter activities too. I am just judging this from my perspective though.
AlphaTwo00
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Reading this thread:
I'm boned, right?
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Yeah, she's only dated white guys. Her family has offered to introduce her to asian guys, and some of them have been smart and good looking, but she has outright said she'll never date an asian. My wife, while she married me and I am white, constantly sees guys of all races on TV that she finds attractive. We were watching Luther last week and I am pretty sure if given the chance she would leave me for Idris Elba, haha. So I don't really think it was like a family issue or anything since my wife would have dated from any race. I can't figure out why my sister-in-law is weird about it.
Kuro Madoushi
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Koreans from Korea.
Edit: poor alpha. We'll have a beer over it at the next meet up. You're buying
Black Republican
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id love to see more asian men - black women couples
Bla bla, I need photographic evidence of this awesomeness.
CherryWoodFuton
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Search my post on the pics thread she should be on there
I'm working on that, bro.
coffeehofi
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Your Indonesian friends probably a Chinese descendant. From what I know many of Indonesian who were living abroad were mostly came from Chinese family since they got the wealth. When we are talking about native it really look different.
I mean just take a look at these Balinese guys?
Flawless Victory, Kudos to you and the Misses.
I think I've seen like two of those.
juliushandle
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Yeah, many non-asian females have told me they absolutely love that GI Joe asian guy, Byung Hun Lee, as well as the Fast and Furious asian guy.
Byung doesn't have a western name to make an impact. all he needs is a break through role but hey, it's hollywood.
russell wong had that cross racial attraction as does that half filipino kid who was in that show one tree hill, michael coppon. then again, both those examples are dudes who are half white.
Byung doesn't have a western name to make an impact. all he needs is a break through role but hey, it's hollywood.
russell wong had that cross racial attraction as does that half filipino kid who was in that show one tree hill, michael coppon. then again, both those examples are dudes who are half white.
Not at all. I have taken the stereotype and turn it on its head numerous times.
The last Hispanic chick I hooked up with flat out told me she found me attractive but didn't think I would go for her because she believed Asian guys only go for Asian girls. I told her to shut up and kiss me.
She was fun.
FonkyByNature
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Is this still a problem in 2013 ? my gawd...
I KNOW they think like that. Strong Asian male presence is not what they want because it disrupts the power structure.
A guy never wants to hear the truth from a woman because it will destroy his ego. The Asian women fetish loses its appeal if an Asian woman just flat out states "I dont like Asian men because I dont like myself or my terrible Epicanthic fold". It only works if the other guy feels superior. So thats why they can sit on their moral ziggeraut and smile like they are doing the world a favor when their asian girl says "Oh, Asian men treat their women so bad. They are boring. They have small wee-wees". This reinforces their manhood.
Strong Asian male presence ends this. It stops these women, and their male enablers, from making such sweeping generalizations about them. It creates such a pride women like Brenda Song wont feel the need to go on national tv dressed like some cheap sailor moon ripoff for a racist gag. It will make people stop and think about everything the way they do with other groups they respect.
WascallyWabbit
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my parents are fairly chill about race in comparison to other 1st generation chinese immigrants, but I don't think they'd be thrilled if I brought home a black girl or, i dunno, an indian or japanese girl
But yes, I have dated outside my race
RapidCancel
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Trojan X said:
I have a coworker who specifically mentions that she only wants to date and marry a white guy, while at the same time complaining a lot when someone wants or tries to go out with her because they love Asian girls. I really wasn't sure what to say to her.
I've dated a Mexican and white girl, but I'm currently with an Asian girl. I actually have a few friends with Mexican girls, one with a white girl and another with a black girl.
I think the generally bad stereotype with asian guys causes them to not really pursue anyone other than asian girls. It doesn't seem like too much an issue anymore when you don't let it get to you and just start talking to others without worrying about race.
OriginofHysteria
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I'm Filipino and I've never dated an Asian girl, they've always been white. In fact, my current gf now is white and my close friends who are all Filipino love her, as well as my family. So I guess it worked out.
I love this post so much that I want to take it to the back of the bleachers and get it pregnant.
Chairmanchuck
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Arent you the same right now generalizing "western" people. I have a chinese gf and I never thought I am superior to others. I can just see that chinese bf treat their chinese gf totally different than some of my western friends who also have an asian gf.
This is just my experience.
I never heard anyone that western man wouldnt want some other strong asian males, because of some dominance issue. I mean we have a lot of turkish people here in Germany. If turkish people treat other female well, why should I care about some dominance issue?
You cant really generalize (and I know I do this too when I say I experienced a lot of Chinese in China treating their gfs not that well).
If you think like that and made experiences, it is all fine. I just never heard of something similar you said here in europe.
We very much work like that.
Do you think the people who find their "soul mates" just so happen to always live reasonably close to the soul mate they find? There are 3.5 billion women in the world just today (and that's assuming your soul mate has to be alive at the same time as you. And that she is a woman, not a man). What do you think the odds are that your soul mate just so happens to be located in the same community that you are? Particularly if you live in Terra Haute, Indiana and not New York City or Tokyo?
I get that people like to believe their relationship is magical and special, but in many ways what I am describing is even greater: I am suggesting that this powerful bond we can experience with those around us could actually be achieved with a huge number of people all over the world. There are women in India and Cambodia and Nigeria and Chile that you could fall just as profoundly in love with as you do with your "soul mate." I don't think there is anything less majestic about that observation, but it isn't what people want to hear regardless.
Baki
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South Asian? And is she Lebanese. I'm quite surprised because Arabs do not usually marry outside their race.
IMO it's not so complex. I'm going to give my two cents coming from the westcoast. Asian-American communities are pretty tight knit that people's circles are just simply predominantly Asian. It's simply convenience or rule of probabilities. If you look at more mixed-group circles then that's where you'll see some more interracial dating. There's little to do with insecurity or preference.
And then even within Asian groups, we're not one race, we're a whole bunch. A Vietnamese guy dating a Filipino chick is interracial, for example, and if you look at it that way, I think you'll notice that a lot more Asians are in interracial relationships than you thought.
And then even within Asian groups, we're not one race, we're a whole bunch. A Vietnamese guy dating a Filipino chick is interracial, for example, and if you look at it that way, I think you'll notice that a lot more Asians are in interracial relationships than you thought.
Angry Grimace
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Women in general? This is news to me.
What about Chow Yun Fat? He did a few Hollywood movies where he was not the docile Asian male. I think in Replacement killers he developed a relationship with a white girl. In Romeo must die, Jet Li felt like getting with Aaliyah was inappropriate, Jackie got with Jennier Love Hewitt at the end of the Medallion if i recall, Jackie got with Roselyn Sanchez in a deleted scene in Rush Hour 3 i think, Donnie Yen... well i can't explain his lack of career in the West and Sammo i recall had a white girlfriend in Martial Law.
I also recall a mainland Chinese girl and a filipino Canadian girl saying men from their respective cultures were too old fashioned if i recall. I don't know how true it is. The filipino girl i don't talk to her anymore but the Chinese girl is now engaged to a white guy.
Lol score!
I dont live in Germany so it may be different over there. I can only speak about what I see in North America, and it is pretty clear over here. Self-hatred is a big problem here, and nobody wants to speak on it. Asian guys have NO media or political voice in this nation, so everything being spoken is through a western lens. The western power structure has no incentive to speak on this because they benefit from it. When An Asian American girl grows up thinking shes ugly and hating who she is the western world benefits because she will try her hardest to assimilate in ALL ways. This manifests itself with trying to change eyes, and in other ways, make sure their kids dont pick up the traits they find so unattractive about themselves.
Sure, Asian guys from Asia treat their girlfriends in different ways, but that does not speak for Asian Americans. The only difference, honestly, in that case is aesthetic. Girls dont want to create kids who look like themselves because they dont like themselves. The NAACP in America did a experiment from African American children the same way. The kids picked the lighter dolls because, like the marginalized Asian group in America, also had issues with self-hate. The "black is beautiful" movement kind of changed this for them, but Asians have had no such thing.
XiaNaphryz
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Maybe on a national level, but they definitely do on a local level in the more heavier asian populated areas like California or Hawaii.
Local level doesnt solve this. This is a national problem.
I'm Japanese dating a white girl. My viewpoint may be a bit different since I've never really been in an Asian group / clique -- went along w/ my mom to some of the Japanese family gatherings every once in a while, but there were just very few kids my age there.
My mom remarried a white guy in the states, bro's married to a Vietnamese woman. No, they don't give two fucks who I'm seeing, nor do my grandparents and such.
My mom remarried a white guy in the states, bro's married to a Vietnamese woman. No, they don't give two fucks who I'm seeing, nor do my grandparents and such.
SquiddyCracker
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u mirin jaw brah?
u mirin?
dun be a sad cunt
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Isn't this kinda true when it comes to most minorities that come from cultures with emphasis on lineage?
I'm middle-eastern, and while my parents and extended family is more or less liberal, a similar attitude can be found in the middle-east (white people are okay, asians less so, and black people are unacceptable).
This is in addition to religious preferences, so in some middle-eastern areas it doesn't really matter what race you're marrying so long as they convert to Islam.
XiaNaphryz
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*shrugs*
I've never really seen a lot of the sorts of issues you describe having grown up here in the SF area over the last 3 decades. Same with my other Asian/Asian-American friends who grew up down in SoCal. So I can't really relate.
CharlieDigital
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Dude, I think I have the same problem.
My thought is that the basis of this is that, growing up in rural US, there were so few Asian people aside from my immediate family, I have an issue with seeing Asian women in a sexual manner at all.
And oddly, Asian girls never seemed to be attracted to me all throughout high school and college (but I also tended not to hang in all-Asian circles).
So much salt. This post is kind of myopic IMO because when you think about it, Asian males in mass media -- until very recently, I'd say -- have tended towards strong, physical roles. Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Chow Yun Fat, etc. Practically the only roles for Asians were roles where they played a character that could beat the shit out of you in a street fight.
SE Asian and I've dated white, black, hispanic, asian...I'd date whatever really! I'm not that picky haha.
I do think girls probably find asian guys less physically attractive than other races but I've seen a few asian guys dating outside their race. I think because it's uncommon, most asian guys feels uncomfortable pursuing outside their race. It should change overtime when you see more couples out there.
I do think girls probably find asian guys less physically attractive than other races but I've seen a few asian guys dating outside their race. I think because it's uncommon, most asian guys feels uncomfortable pursuing outside their race. It should change overtime when you see more couples out there.
You've lived it, but are fortunate enough to have grown up *presumably* in the conclave of Chinatown which represents the greatness of the Asian American experience. You probably would have been made more aware of issues if you were raised in a different, less insulated, bubble.
I remember when they were making "Bringing down the house" into a movie, and how excited I was at the prospect of an Asian American star on film who wasnt a comic device or martial artist......damn it they didnt whitewash out the whole cast. This is the media representation I am talking about. If Asian American girls, who already have self image issues from the media, can never see a cool Asian American male on film why would they want them? Why would they want anything to do with them? This is the crux of the issue. Asian American males are treated like garbage. This has nothing to do with "Repressive ideals" and the like, and everything to do with the media taking an invested interest in making sure a group is portrayed as asexual and one-dimensional as possible.
XiaNaphryz
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I can see that happening.
I had the opposite experience - growing up a good 30-40% of the kids in my classes during junior high and high school were asian/filipino. Got as high as 60-70% in a few classes. Same deal in college at the least.
CharlieDigital
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This is as garbage as African Americans who blame slavery for their current day woes.
XiaNaphryz
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Not Chinatown, suburbia. There's a lot more Asian/Asian-American families in general around here in the general population than you may realize.
I grew up nowhere near a homogenous asian populated area like a Chinatown per se, but there were still enough of us that we were still a sizeable portion of the whole group. Asian American girls primarily dated other Asian Americans as far as I can remember.
This is simply not true.
The scheming, greedy, Asexual buck-toothed Asian male was one of the most widely seen, and damaging, American stereotypes there were. Just think of such "American classics" like Breakfast at tiffanys. I think Even Charlie Chan kind of fits this mold with his terrible accent and Asexual disposition. Making the Asian male Asexual has been the MO for some time. I know earlier they were terrified of the sexuality bit, but I believe that was more of a British phenom due to their presence in China.
Bruce Lee was a rare transcendence from this image, but this flirtation with reality was short lived as Jackie Chan was back in tow to add the buffoonery to appease the masses. Now just with a gung fu flavor to the bunch.
My friend is Vietnamese and he's engaged to a Macedonian woman (Balkan country, lots of Caucasians).
What's noteworthy is that he met her in Macedonia. They NEVER get asian people (in fact, the whole country is not ethnically diverse). Must have been a trip for her friends to see this strange little man of a friend I have.
They're both happily in love. More than just skin deep.
What's noteworthy is that he met her in Macedonia. They NEVER get asian people (in fact, the whole country is not ethnically diverse). Must have been a trip for her friends to see this strange little man of a friend I have.
They're both happily in love. More than just skin deep.
CharlieDigital
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Dude, you're talking about an era when black people were just as stereotyped in media. Heck, all non-Caucasian races were basically relegated to caricatures for most of the early and mid 20th century.
This perceived injustice in the media portrayal of Asian men has less to do with your ability to score white chicks than your own insecurities, tendencies, and cultural pressures.
I have never felt my Asian-ness to be a handicap in my ability to approach women of any race. At the end of the day, it comes down to whether you have the toolkit to seal the deal. Be that charm, personality, looks, money, etc.
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