Asian men and interracial dating

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In my experience it was really tough for me to get a non asian girl to date me in high school because of some perceived asian male stereotypes but when I started college girls didnt really give a shit as long as you're tall and cute :)
 
When discussion like this has come up I always wondered how the world would be different if Bruce Lee was still alive.

Anytime I mention to a female that I practice martial arts they go on and on about how they had a crush on Bruce Lee.

Man had mad swagger for sure across all racial lines.
 

Bit-Bit

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I'm vietnamese dating a white girl.

Her mom doesn't approve of it (we live in Florida) but she's not the confrontational type so she's always been neutral to me in person.

My parents are fine with us. They actually really like my girlfriend.
 

Mesousa

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My cousin and her husband. Their baby boy is so goddamn cute.

I'm noticing more Asian men dating other backgrounds recently. I'm not sure what's causing us to trend but I can't complain.

Probably the disrespect shown by Westernized Asian Females for well over a decade now.

I remember being on the fighting44s years and years ago and people prophesying this phenom.

It was only so long guys were going to sit back and take this marginalization,
 
women do not like Asian men comparatively.

As I stated in the other thread, I think this has less to do with the women than it has to do with Asian customs and pressures from first-generation parents on males to marry Asian women.

Bear in mind that Asians are also one of the the more recent migrant groups to the US (relatively speaking) so the cultural assimilation is still in progress.

Comparatively speaking, Asian males have a lot going for them. Asians, as a group, have the highest median income and disproportionally large share of six figure households. High attainment in education, etc. I don't think that Asian guys have issues attracting members of the opposite sex who happen to be a different race. Rather Asian men either prefer Asian partners (especially first generation) or they have family and cultural pressure to marry within their race (those with first generation parents).

Also, wife and I:

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I'm Filipino, my girlfriend is white. Neither of our parents care. I'm taller than her. We live in Southern California. We actually work together and no one at work minds either, in fact thy make fun of us for it.

Everyone gives me a high five when they find out I date a white girl
 

Mesousa

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Generic Asian Male here (Chinese)

I've dated white girls in the past but I still get the sense it's really not the norm here in Toronto. I see more Asian males with non Asian girls now than I did a decade ago, but I still not as common as other mixes.

For some reason, I seem to have a lot more luck with girls not born in North America. Not sure if it's just me or whatever.

Ended up marrying a Korean girl and never got flak from her family. Hell, I like my in laws better than my family.

Edit: I guess part of me wouldn't be so bitter about all this if CBC females here didn't often state they didn't want CBC males cause they remind them of their fathers. Sheesh...

Its not just you, I'd say most Asian males born in the west and around mostly western people experience this.

The western media has done a great job emasculating Asian men. Viewed as almost asexual. The nerd or, if you are lucky, the martial artists. This is done to make the fetish of Asian women seem justified to them. Its like "Oh we are not turning them into an un healthy fetish because look at their alternative to us. We're the good guys" Women from outside this bubble are not as ingrained with this image, but the women from over here get it constantly.

Its so bad that the Western males dont even have to do it anymore because Asian women have internalized it. Look at crap like the joy luck club. Was pretty much 2 hours of "Please save us from these terrible Asian men".
 
I'm in Chicago but grew up in Ohio which meant dating a lot outside of the Korean population. That being said, I've run the gamut of ethnicities; Indian, Caucasian, Egyptian, Australian, and lots of Asian ethnicities. A lot of my other friends including a Chinese and Phillipino guy are both married to Caucasians.

I get what some are saying about the height thing, but it's never been a huge factor for me and I'm not super tall (5'6.) It totally goes back to the whole dating-age threads of comfort with yourself more than anything.

Incidentally, I've found a girl that I want to end up with who happens to be Chinese, and my Korean mother is throwing a huge fit.
 
Incidentally, I've found a girl that I want to end up with who happens to be Chinese, and my Korean mother is throwing a huge fit.

Why is that? I heard the "hate" chinese have on korean and vice versa is gone long. Just when Korean mention confucius comes from Korea or something like that, they get angry.
 

Esch

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Its so bad that the Western males dont even have to do it anymore because Asian women have internalized it. Look at crap like the joy luck club. Was pretty much 2 hours of "Please save us from these terrible Asian men".

Hold up, let's be honest here. Asian culture IS often repressive when it comes to women. And I do mean across asia, from the middle east to polynesia and everything in between, when i say that.
 

Talon

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Korean dating a white girl. All my friends growing up were white though, so it makes sense. I don't have any particularly close ties to my Korean heritage outside of family and speaking the language fluently.
 

badb0y

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My parents are from Pakistan and I was born in California and raised in NY.

I have never dated an Asian person or hooked up with one not even South Asian. My current girlfriend is from Colombia and my previous one was Greek. I usually date girls that have nice curves and like really light brown skin.
 
Why is that? I heard the "hate" chinese have on korean and vice versa is gone long. Just when Korean mention confucius comes from Korea or something like that, they get angry.

There really isn't any true animosity between the two races. Her parents love me. Koreans by in large tend to be a lot more ethnocentric then a lot of other Asian ethnicities and it's just that she's not Korean.

Also my mother is a Korean mother, therefore she's crazy.
 

Kuro Madoushi

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Its not just you, I'd say most Asian males born in the west and around mostly western people experience this.

The western media has done a great job emasculating Asian men. Viewed as almost asexual. The nerd or, if you are lucky, the martial artists. This is done to make the fetish of Asian women seem justified to them. Its like "Oh we are not turning them into an un healthy fetish because look at their alternative to us. We're the good guys" Women from outside this bubble are not as ingrained with this image, but the women from over here get it constantly.

Its so bad that the Western males dont even have to do it anymore because Asian women have internalized it. Look at crap like the joy luck club. Was pretty much 2 hours of "Please save us from these terrible Asian men".
I was pretty shocked that a Turkish girl and Brazilian girl showed interest in me.
Hold up, let's be honest here. Asian culture IS often repressive when it comes to women. And I do mean across asia, from the middle east to polynesia and everything in between, when i say that.
Repressive, yes, but most Asian males posting here I would say are raised by Western culture. And the American born Asian male in that fucking movie wasn't exactly a shining example of Asian males.

There really isn't any true animosity between the two races. Her parents love me. Koreans by in large tend to be a lot more ethnocentric then a lot of other Asian ethnicities and it's just that she's not Korean.

Also my mother is a Korean mother, therefore she's crazy.
Hmmm...I met a lot of Koreans and they didn't seem to care. I heard some didn't want to date black guys but an equal amount that didn't care. I didn't get any shit for being Chinese even if hough there was the big hate on with the territory disputes.
 
Hmmm...I met a lot of Koreans and they didn't seem to care. I heard some didn't want to date black guys but an equal amount that didn't care. I didn't get any shit for being Chinese even if hough there was the big hate on with the territory disputes.

I wouldnt really say they are racist, when they say it. I heard chinese and japanese saying they are just scared of it. Maybe because they arent exposed to that much black people and only know them from basketball on TV.

Just heard a lot of them say they kinda look scary and dirty, because they dont know better, maybe.
 

Mesousa

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Hold up, let's be honest here. Asian culture IS often repressive when it comes to women. And I do mean across asia, from the middle east to polynesia and everything in between, when i say that.

There isnt a single major culture on earth that isnt Repressive against women.

You'd never see it on a different foot though. There would NEVER be a major motion picture about white women getting treated like crap by white men, and then the noble Asian man coming in and saving them. It simply would never be made.
 

Esch

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Repressive, yes, but most Asian males posting here I would say are raised by Western culture. And the American born Asian male in that fucking movie wasn't exactly a shining example of Asian males.

Yeah, this is true. I can only speak for Indians (my people), but I still think that a degree of that still translates over to life over here in america though. The majority of asians here are luckily pretty educated, but even still... I of course cosign the emasculation of the asian male in media, but I think we have to acknowledge that asian patriarchy is an issue.
There isnt a single major culture on earth that isnt Repressive against women.

You'd never see it on a different foot though. There would NEVER be a major motion picture about white women getting treated like crap by white men, and then the noble Asian man coming in and saving them. It simply would never be made.

Isn't this the plot of Harold and Kumar 2? I'm not denying that its a rarity...
 

Chojin

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I feel my brother and I went against the grain as we're half asians and married asian. Most half-asian half white friends of mine marry or date white. i rarely see half asians go for full on asian.

Though its funny because I have two white halfbrothers and they married asian as well ;)
 
There isnt a single major culture on earth that isnt Repressive against women.

You'd never see it on a different foot though. There would NEVER be a major motion picture about white women getting treated like crap by white men, and then the noble Asian man coming in and saving them. It simply would never be made.
Who would pay to see such lies.
 

Mesousa

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I was pretty shocked that a Turkish girl and Brazilian girl showed interest in me.

So true. I think every Asian American should travel when they are a young man. It puts the world into perspective.


Isn't this the plot of Harold and Kumar 2? I'm not denying that its a rarity...

To an extent yes, but that was a comedy among other things.

Lets get a real serious film where white women, for generations, are dragged through the mud by white men. Then, we need a noble Asian men to come in and save them. 2 hours of it.
 

Dice

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Absolutely. Propinquity is the most dominant variable in mate selection by a significant margin.
So romantic.

"Honey, why did you choose me over the others?"
"You were there."

Haha, but it's funny because we do kinda work like that.
 
Hmmm...I met a lot of Koreans and they didn't seem to care. I heard some didn't want to date black guys but an equal amount that didn't care. I didn't get any shit for being Chinese even if hough there was the big hate on with the territory disputes.

Are you talking about Korean-American women? Because there's a double standard between sons and daughters. My sister married a Jewish dude... no problem. Me marrying someone who's not Korean? Huge problem. I've known this to be true for a number of my friends.
 

jasonng

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When discussion like this has come up I always wondered how the world would be different if Bruce Lee was still alive.

Anytime I mention to a female that I practice martial arts they go on and on about how they had a crush on Bruce Lee.

Man had mad swagger for sure across all racial lines.
It is an interesting thought. Lee is a perfect example that destroys all stereotypes portrayed in western mediums today. He's muscular, has sex appeal, and incredibly arrogant (and rightfully so). It makes you wonder why no one has ever taken up his mantle when he unfortunately past away.
 
It is an interesting thought. Lee is a perfect example that destroys all stereotypes portrayed in western mediums today. He's muscular, has sex appeal, and incredibly arrogant (and rightfully so). It makes you wonder why no one has ever taken up his mantle when he unfortunately past away.

HK tries to do that with Donnie Yen though.
 

Mesousa

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lover_(film)

Maybe not 100% what you are looking for but an awesome movie and a fantastic book.

Even reading the synopsis the Asian male seems vilified.

"The Chinaman even goes so far as to beg his father for his allowance to be with the girl instead of entering into his arranged marriage, but his father would rather see him dead than with a "white girl."

So in the end the whites could accept a guy pedo'ing their daughter, but the Asians couldnt?

I'll check it out though.

It is an interesting thought. Lee is a perfect example that destroys all stereotypes portrayed in western mediums today. He's muscular, has sex appeal, and incredibly arrogant (and rightfully so). It makes you wonder why no one has ever taken up his mantle when he unfortunately past away.


Dude was literally a walking stereotype with the martial arts thing.

A destruction of the stereotype would be if Lee had his same persona, but was something like musician or hell even a sports person.
 
It is an interesting thought. Lee is a perfect example that destroys all stereotypes portrayed in western mediums today. He's muscular, has sex appeal, and incredibly arrogant (and rightfully so). It makes you wonder why no one has ever taken up his mantle when he unfortunately past away.

HK tries to do that with Donnie Yen though.

pure class

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That being said, I believe there are many Asian actors (not in America), that have that sex appeal with Byung Hun Lee being at the top.

Dude was literally a walking stereotype with the martial arts thing.

A destruction of the stereotype would be if Lee had his same persona, but was something like musician or hell even a sports person.

At the time, Bruce was a trailblazer. He broke the trend of Asians being goofy, comedy characters.
 

andthebeatgoeson

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Kind of inspired by the Drummond/McCurdy thread, are there any Asian male-gaffers that are currently dating/married to another race? I'm a Filipino currently dating a mixed race person (trini/puerto rican/italian). My parents seem to not really care since they're pretty laid back when it comes to those issues (living in Miami, which the Asian community is in a super minority$. I mostly get shit from my Filipino friends because of how insular Asian cliques can be. I try not to force my gf to attend any of my Filipino friend's get togethers due to the fact that the few times I've invited her my friends all seem to make her feel like an outsider. My gf's family seems to accept me though and her friends (they're mostly Hispanic and Black) enjoy my company.

They (your friends) don't sound like good friends.
 

Bleepey

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Probably the disrespect shown by Westernized Asian Females for well over a decade now.

I remember being on the fighting44s years and years ago and people prophesying this phenom.

It was only so long guys were going to sit back and take this marginalization,

I used to read this blog called bitter asian men or something like that. I read their arguments about why they were annoyed about rarely getting play from asian girls and I could understand why they'd be pissed. However i found it ironic that they seemed to put white girls in a bigger pedestal than asian girls put white dudes IMO. My Eurasian friend agreed.
 

jasonng

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Dude was literally a walking stereotype with the martial arts thing.

A destruction of the stereotype would be if Lee had his same persona, but was something like musician or hell even a sports person.
I don't disagree but if anything Lee was the one who started this stereotype in western culture or at the least made it popular.
 

Mesousa

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pure class

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That being said, I believe there are many Asian actors (not in America), that have that sex appeal with Byung Hun Lee being at the top.



At the time, Bruce was a trailblazer. He broke the trend of Asians being goofy, comedy characters.

And replaced it with the martial arts stereotype that has proved to be as, if not more, damaging.

I did like his persona, but he wasnt exactly doing a 180 over there. Guys like him were a dime a dozen in San Fran since the 19th century. Cool guys who were businessmen, doctors, journalists, and great people.
 
There really isn't any true animosity between the two races. Her parents love me. Koreans by in large tend to be a lot more ethnocentric then a lot of other Asian ethnicities and it's just that she's not Korean.

Also my mother is a Korean mother, therefore she's crazy.

rofl. I think it's pretty endearing really.

I got the same impression from my boyfriend's mother for a long time, and he kind of confirmed as much. We get along well enough, but I'm sure we'd get along a just liiiiittle better if I was a nice Korean girl. At this point though I think we're probably past that.

Isn't this the plot of Harold and Kumar 2? I'm not denying that its a rarity...

It's a bit of a travesty when the only Hollywood movie to break the "martial artist/ nerd" stereotype is a comedy about weed.
 

Mesousa

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I don't disagree but if anything Lee was the one who started this stereotype in western culture or at the least made it popular.

I can agree with that.

Demonstrations, while being a big part of Chinese culture in America, was relatively unheard of by the masses outside until Bruce came along so he was very important in that aspect.
 
didn't he get his own movie "ninja"?

Are you thinking Ninja Assassin? That was Rain, not Lee Byung Eun.

And it doesn't matter if Lee Byung Eun never gets another film role in his life because he married Lee Min Jung and she might be the prettiest woman alive.

Anyway, my sister-in-law is ABC and she says she refuses to date asian men. I have no idea why.
 

AlexM

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my friend is filipino and always complains that white women, his preference, don't like asian guys.

is there any truth to this?

Sometimes I guess (like pretty much any race) but on the same note I've known a few white women who had an asian guy fetish.
 
Sometimes I guess (like pretty much any race) but on the same note I've known a few white women who had an asian guy fetish.

Arent a lot of those somehow also those who are "crazy" about anime?

I just know that the female "otaku" are hyped about every asian-guy they see. Just go to an anime-convention here in Germany with a Chinese/Korean/Japanese. He can "have" all the girls there...
 

Valhelm

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I live in Miami, and I remember one of my Korean American high school friends telling me that his parents explicitly forbade him from doing anything with a girl who wasn't Korean.
 

Trojan X

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Anyway, my sister-in-law is ABC and she says she refuses to date asian men. I have no idea why.

I guess she only goes out with white guys? One only need to look at her dating history.

I think it's a shame that she completely cut asian men out. She should cut no man out. Yes, she can have a race preference but to completely cut out I feel is a crying shame of lost. Same applies for men too.

Oh well. Her prerogative, I guess.


I remember a story of mine... I went out with a chinese girl from GZ for 3 years. All was going well until I went to see her parents in China. The father liked me very much but the mother was a different story. Her reason? Well, apparently she has no problem with me but she prefers her daughter to go out with a chinese guy only because she doesnt want to be embarrassed any further by her friends and neighbours due to the colour of my skin. Frankly I was appalled but I couldn't do anything except to show her my worth (which I didn't had to do for my ex already told her everything with a proud smile on her face). Anyway, for the curious, I stop going out with my ex-gf because WE didn't work out together and not because of her mother. Upon looking back, I am so grateful that my ex stood by my side on any form of negativity like that for she could have easily been swayed due to peer-pressure - it's not easy.
 

jasonng

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And replaced it with the martial arts stereotype that has proved to be as, if not more, damaging.
I actually fault this with our current action stars like Jackie Chan. The guy has a long, well deserved, and successful career making action films while playing a comedic role. I don't find that wrong but he portrayed docility while simultaneously "clumsily" caving people's faces in.

It's a role completely opposite of Lee's persona which I find more important to represent in the media. I want to steer away from the martial arts angle too but if it provides a platform to showcase someone like Bruce Lee, I won't oppose it.
 
I actually fault this with our current action stars like Jackie Chan. The guy has a long, well deserved, and successful career making action films while playing a comedic role. I don't find that wrong but he portrayed docility while simultaneously "clumsily" caving people's faces in.

Funny thing is, that Jackie Chan is more popular outside of China/HK than in China/HK itself.
 
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