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[Loomba]

I'm half Chinese/half White (although I look 'full' Chinese) and I'm dating a white girl, never dated an Asian girl either. Not that I wouldn't though.

Both of our families are cool with it and don't even get any looks.

 

[Bleepey]

I know for a fact black women love asian guys. Its their dirty little secret.

Is that right? I rarely see that pairing in London. But anyway? I ad not asian but fr the asian guys I went to uni with, they seemed to do all right when it came to the interracial dating game. From the guys in my year, I know one Chinese dude who is now married to a white girl and dated tonnes of non Chinese women at uni, one dude was in a long term relationship with a white chick and others seemed to do ok for themselves. It makes that yellow fever vid extra funny since the asian guys did more boning than a lot of people I know.

 

[faridmon]

It doesn't seem strange. I have plenty of Japanese friends who are dating English/European girls it seems everything is going alright with them.

 

[donkey show]

Truely a pioneer.

It took me a really long time to break out of my shell. I still feel iffy when it comes to dating outside the race. Like you need to be extra-special or there's only certain types of girls that would go for Asian guys.

I must've been lucky since I've never really had an issue dating outside of race. I'd argue my family falls nowhere near a typical Filipino family stereotype, plus I suppose it's because I never really fallen into those atypical cliques as well. At UC Irvine, I felt out of place! xD

But yeah, I've only ever dated one Filipina and that was in uni. They've all been either caucasian or hispanic. My girlfriend now is a very awesome bleach blonde brit and we always joke how her liking anime paved the way for to be us together, lol.

 

[BocoDragon]

Filipinos in particular probably shouldn't lump yourselves in with how western women view "asians". You basically register to western people as Caucasians with an excellent tan. Perhaps it's the more similar eyes.

 

[killertofu]

I must've been lucky since I've never really had an issue dating outside of race. I'd argue my family falls nowhere near a typical Filipino family stereotype, plus I suppose it's because I never really fallen into those atypical cliques as well. At UC Irvine, I felt out of place! xD

But yeah, I've only ever dated one Filipina and that was in uni. They've all been either caucasian or hispanic. My girlfriend now is a very awesome bleach blonde brit and we always joke how her liking anime paved the way for to be us together, lol.

I don't even know why.

Ever since I was 5 I've been living in a predominately white areas. Literally every single girl (until recently) has been white.

And yet I still feel at a disadvantage.

 

[donkey show]

Filipinos in particular probably shouldn't lump yourselves in with how western women view "asians". You basically register to western people as Caucasians with an excellent tan. Perhaps it's the more similar eyes.

Eh, not necessarily the case in parts of the UK and Georgia from what I've experienced. xD

I don't even know why.

Ever since I was 5 I've been living in a predominately white areas. Literally every single girl (until recently) has been white.

And yet I still feel at a disadvantage.

I just like to think of myself as "exotic" and go from there, lol.

 

[adamsapple]

I'm Asian.
I'm marrying an Arab-American.

does that count ?

 

[BocoDragon]

Eh, not necessarily the case in parts of the UK and Georgia from what I've experienced. xD

The UK is different. Their use of the word "Asian" also includes South Asia (India) so it's a broader category. Asian in N.A. generally means East Asian (Chinese, Korean, Japanese and often Vietnamese or Thai). And I feel that Filipinos look quite different from them (maybe Thai is closest)..

Of course you are right that some people can't tell the difference. We're all coming from different places.

I just don't think the Filipino look is part of the same category that white women are kind of cold to (sorry if that implies other groups are - and I think anyone can break through that shit. It's not that they're closed to it, it's that it's not an simple and privileged path). Actually there is some cultural DNA of white women really going for the Filipino look.

 

[Le-mo]

Do Asian females date Black males?

I have a good friend who's dating a black guy. Been together for almost 2 years I think.

 

[donkey show]

The UK is different. Their use of the word "Asian" also includes South Asia (India) so it's a broader category. Asian in N.A. generally means East Asian (Chinese, Korean, Japanese and often Vietnamese or Thai). And I feel that Filipinos look quite different from them (maybe Thai is closest)..

Oh I know. Asian here is basically Indian. Oriental is still used to classify what we classify as Asian back home in the states. It tripped me out when I first moved to the UK and would ask for the Asian section in a supermarket and be shown Indian food, haha. If anything, Filipinos should be classified as Pacific Islanders more than anything else.

 

[fallagin]

My sister used to date a filipino guy, Though she eventually married a hispanic guy.

We are white by the way.

 

[BocoDragon]

Oh I know. Asian here is basically Indian. Oriental is still used to classify what we classify as Asian back home in the states. It tripped me out when I first moved to the UK and would ask for the Asian section in a supermarket and be shown Indian food, haha. If anything, Filipinos should be classified as Pacific Islanders more than anything else.

Yeah I'd agree that the look is more similar. I assume the lineage is too.

 

[shanshan310]

my friend is filipino and always complains that white women, his preference, don't like asian guys.

is there any truth to this?

Filthy lies. Have you SEEN Asian guys? -w-

I don't think its about being Asian per se. I think it has to do more with height preference. Asians in general are not that tall. There is also this notion that Asian men give off this inclusive vibe that makes women think that the men would never date outside his race.

You could also say that negative Asian men stereotypes (ex: Asian men are asexual, not attractive, etc) are a factor but I think that notion is slowly dying down in the media (just look at Fast Five and Fast Six, etc)

The height difference thing is something I'd never really considered, but I think it's probably a subconscious thing if it's even a thing at all.

For Asian guys who grew up in the west it's completely irrelevant, but I have some reservations about dating guys who grew up in Asian countries. Obviously everyone is different and there are plenty of guys I wouldn't have a problem dating, but in my experience they tend to be more conservative. Their dating style is a lot more passive and traditional, and when things get serious many of them expect the domestic stuff to be taken care of. I get the impression that they are put off by a lot of western women when it comes to long term dating, just because of those kind of cultural differences. Or at least, that is the stereotype that a lot of white women hold.

 

[Certinty]

I'm partly Indian and partly Portuguese, but i'm very light skinned and my looks probably pass off as Portuguese. But anyway I'm with a Swedish/Irish and neither her or my family have ever seemed to care.

 

[$h@d0w]

I'm a Nintendo fan and I don't date outside, so no Sony or Microsoft fans.

Sega fans can also gtfo.

 

[BocoDragon]

For Asian guys who grew up in the west it's completely irrelevant, but I have some reservations about dating guys who grew up in Asian countries. Obviously everyone is different and there are plenty of guys I wouldn't have a problem dating, but in my experience they tend to be more conservative. Their dating style is a lot more passive and traditional, and when things get serious many of them expect the domestic stuff to be taken care of. I get the impression that they are put off by a lot of western women when it comes to long term dating, just because of those kind of cultural differences. Or at least, that is the stereotype that a lot of white women hold.

And that is exactly what has driven the predominance of asian women and white men. Most of the women say it's the surprising freedom and respect they've been awarded by their partners (thank late 20th century liberalism and feminism, because I don't think that's a old-school trait of western men at all. And many modern asian men have just the same respect).

Although, on the flip side, I still talk with a Korean ex who has told me that it's very hard to find other western guys who date, in her words, "cute". The courtship of western guys is often very blunt and aggressive, so there may be something of great worth in the asian style of courtship. I wouldn't throw that away.

 

[tkscz]

I'm full black and dating a Filipino. We just started so I've yet to meet her parents, though she says her mom is pretty laid back, but her dad is pretty conservative.

To be honest, I rarely date black women. I mean, they pull off being plus size pretty much better than any other race (excluding Asian and Hispanic), but all I've ever lived around were ghetto black women, and that arrogance and belief they that run me just pushed me away from them. Also hate the fact that when random black women see me with a woman of a different race, usually white, they scoff or give me dirty looks.

 

[shanshan310]

And that is exactly what has driven the predominance of asian women and white men. Most of the women say it's the surprising freedom and respect they've been awarded by their partners (thank late 20th century liberalism and feminism, because I don't think that's a old-school trait of western men at all. And many modern asian men have just the same respect).

Although, on the flip side, I still talk with a Korean ex who has told me that it's very hard to find other western guys who date, in her words, "cute". The courtship of western guys is often very blunt and aggressive, so there may be something of great worth in the asian style of courtship. I wouldn't throw that away.

Oh yeah totally. Somewhere along the way the west lost most of it's chivalry, and there's not usually much courtship before sex I'd like to think that there is a happy medium somewhere in there though.

I remember a while back meeting (incredibly briefly) this Korean guy at university, and every few days or so he'd just send me some text about what he was doing (eg. "hey I went fishing this weekend Australia's so interesting!" or whatever). I didn't have a clue what was going on for weeks until a friend was like "uh, he's trying to ask you out". Although conversely I've had a guy who was super aggressive about it. People are just people, in the end.

 

[IrishNinja]

I was in Japan and I saw the blackest brother on the planet (big Afro, buff) with his half Japanese son. Cute kid.

ace is a great mod on here boco, you could've at least said what's up to him

Sega fans can also gtfo.

pssh, you seen yourself lately? we got standards, brah

 

[MaschinenZimmer]

I know a few asian guys that are dating german women without any problems. I am white and german myself and my wife is japanese. I never had any problems with women from different countrys. Though, I have been told be a good looking guy.

Black women on the other hand are probably the hardest get from a non-black-dude perspective. All my attempts to date one were colosal failures. Also, I have NEVER seen a porn with an asian guy and a black chick. Think about it.

 

[BocoDragon]

Oh yeah totally. Somewhere along the way the west lost most of it's chivalry, and there's not usually much courtship before sex I'd like to think that there is a happy medium somewhere in there though.

Totally agree. I like aspects of the bluntness of western culture, and I like the more reserved cuteness of east asian dating... I aspire to the middle.

I remember a while back meeting (incredibly briefly) this Korean guy at university, and every few days or so he'd just send me some text about what he was doing (eg. "hey I went fishing this weekend Australia's so interesting!" or whatever). I didn't have a clue what was going on for weeks until a friend was like "uh, he's trying to ask you out". Although conversely I've had a guy who was super aggressive about it. People are just people, in the end.

Absolutely. We have to talk broadly in a setting like this, but ultimately everyone is different despite cultural programming.
He probably was trying to ask you out

ace is a great mod on here boco, you could've at least said what's up to him

Dude it honestly passed my mind! haha.... nailed it. What if?

 

[Yellowflashdude]

One of my friends who is Vietnamese is dating a Spanish girl. Another is Indian dating an English girl.

 

[coffeehofi]

What about Austronesian, you know like Madagaskar, Balinese, Dayak (Borneo Native), Polynesian, Hawaiian. which are dark skinned. Do they count as Asian?

 

[BocoDragon]

What about Austronesian, you know like Madagaskar, Balinese, Dayak (Borneo Native), Polynesian, Hawaiian. which are dark skinned. Do they count as Asian?

At least from a North American perspective... I would say "probably not". Most people would probably assume they were anything ranging from African black to just "Pacific islander". Who knows why that is.

 

[Boom Boom Pow]

people from Madagascar would definitely be African.

 

[contagious]

Filipino guy, dating a white girl.

Parents are super conservative though, they give me a hard time about it every opportunity they get.

 

[shanshan310]

What about Austronesian, you know like Madagaskar, Balinese, Dayak (Borneo Native), Polynesian, Hawaiian. which are dark skinned. Do they count as Asian?

I'm not sure if Balinese fits in there, since I'd count Indonesian as an Asian country.

 

[donkey show]

Filipino guy, dating a white girl.

Parents are super conservative though, they give me a hard time about it every opportunity they get.

Haha, I can hear them now talking about how family values are important and you can definitely get that from a Filipino girl, etc.

 

[contagious]

my friend is filipino and always complains that white women, his preference, don't like asian guys.

is there any truth to this?

Complete opposite experience for me.

For whatever reason, I've never gotten along with Asians, but never had a problem with any of the white girls I've dated.

 

[coffeehofi]

At least from a North American perspective... I would say "probably not". Most people would probably assume they were anything ranging from African black to just "Pacific islander". Who knows why that is.

So it would make Filipinos as the mix of both then? Because I think they look more like an Austronesian rather than Asian.

people from Madagascar would definitely be African.

From what I know, half of Madagaskar were counted as Austronesian since few tribes in that island share the same languages and cultures with Borneo Dayaks.
But yeah half of them were African as well.

I'm not sure if Balinese fits in there, since I'd count Indonesian as an Asian country.

According to the ethnic and language group study; Sundanese, Balinese, Bataknese were counted as Austronesian.

 

[BocoDragon]

So it would make Filipinos as the mix of both then? Because I think they look more like an Austronesian rather than Asian.

I dunno what I would categorize them as.. but yeah I agree with you. They don't display features of being particularly mongoloid. Just a little bit.

 

[Chuckie]

What about Austronesian, you know like Madagaskar, Balinese, Dayak (Borneo Native), Polynesian, Hawaiian. which are dark skinned. Do they count as Asian?

Asian refers to the region, not really the ethnicity. While Balinese are an austronesian people, they (and almost the whole of Indonesia) have been mixed with mongoloid populations. So in short: The mongoloid population only makes a part of the Asian population.

 

[AlphaTwo00]

I blame this on Hollywood, mainly, and in some part to 1st generations.

When has Hollywood ever had a leading male star that's not trying to be funny, a stereotype, or a martial artist?

I think the walking dead was the first time an asian dude made out with a white girl, and even that asian dude was somewhat of a pansy.

but reverse that, and you see so many movies with white dudes and asian females in their submissive roles.

Progress that across 10-20 years, and you have a set in people's mind, and there you go.

But of course, things will change. It used to be the same way for black people, but in time, everyone will adapt and change. wait,nm, u still hardly ever see movies of black males kissing white females.

Calling TO-Gaf. I think literally we had this entire conversation last meetup, which resulted in "look at Jet Li in all his western movies".

 

[coffeehofi]

I dunno what I would categorize them as.. but yeah I agree with you. They don't display features of being particularly mongoloid. Just a little bit.

This is why I really agree that most of white caucasian women didn't saw Filipinos as Asian.

 

[BocoDragon]

Asian refers to the region, not really the ethnicity. While Balinese are an austronesian people, they (and almost the whole of Indonesia) have been mixed with mongoloid populations. So in short: The mongoloid population only makes a part of the Asian population.

That sounds right, yeah. Obviously its silly to mean Asian as a specific genetic origin, because like most of the world, its filled with people of diverse origin.

But confusingly, there is a connotation of "asian" to meaning mongoloid features... so oftentimes that is the real distinction of origin being asked when Asia is mentioned (at least for North America, anyway!).

This is why I really agree that most of white caucasian women didn't saw Filipinos as Asian.

Most likely so.

 

[Chuckie]

That sounds right, yeah. Obviously its silly to mean Asian as a specific genetic origin, because like most of the world, its filled with people of diverse origin.

But confusingly, there is a connotation of "asian" to meaning mongoloid features... so oftentimes that is the real distinction of origin being asked when Asia is mentioned (at least for North America, anyway!).

True. But most Southeast Asian people do have mongoloid features, although ofcourse not as strong as Japanese/Chinese.

Indonesia, Phillipines and Malyasians are very much considered Asian in Holland, here the confusion starts with South Asians, which have less (or none?) mongoloid features

 

[sammich]

Depending on what you classify as Asian, im from Goa, but have dated Russian, Columbian, Greek, Canadian, Italian as some of my serious relationships. Other than that the majority were not Indian. Married a Trini girl though, who is a lot more Indian in a traditional sense than my family is.

 

[Bleepey]

I know a few asian guys that are dating german women without any problems. I am white and german myself and my wife is japanese. I never had any problems with women from different countrys. Though, I have been told be a good looking guy.

Black women on the other hand are probably the hardest get from a non-black-dude perspective. All my attempts to date one were colosal failures. Also, I have NEVER seen a porn with an asian guy and a black chick. Think about it.

Want me to PM you a link or two

 

[keuja]

Filipinos in particular probably shouldn't lump yourselves in with how western women view "asians". You basically register to western people as Caucasians with an excellent tan. Perhaps it's the more similar eyes.

Not really. Apart from the mixed spanish people, the vast majority looks distinctively asian. Could be mistaken for mexican/south American sometimes though.

 

[Shadowof]

Latino male dating a Chinese female here. Nothing out of the ordinary, but I do find it a little annoying that I'm just sitting around sometimes while she talks with friends in Mandarin. That probably means that I should just learn the language, though.

Im a white guy married to a filipina lady, I know how you feel man. I find it is with other filipinos of our age group that this happened to me in the most. Visiting with her parents in the Philippines they all took the effort to speak in english as much as they could.

Learning the language is the best thing you can do. I know very small amounts amd learning more but has helped alot in situations where everyone is just going to town in their native language.

 

[Miletius]

1/2 Japanese dating a white girl here. She's taller than me too, which makes it interesting when she wears heels.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

I am a white German with blue eyes and blond hair.
My gf is chinese.

No problems there, though in some cities in China you can feel the jealousy of the chinese males. In Hangzhou some sanitary workers just hold my arm and told me to fuck myself.
Another one, also in Hangzhou, at the bussation asked my gf if I have a big dick and thats the reason she is together with me.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

Generic Asian Male here (Chinese)

I've dated white girls in the past but I still get the sense it's really not the norm here in Toronto. I see more Asian males with non Asian girls now than I did a decade ago, but I still not as common as other mixes.

For some reason, I seem to have a lot more luck with girls not born in North America. Not sure if it's just me or whatever.

Ended up marrying a Korean girl and never got flak from her family. Hell, I like my in laws better than my family.

Edit: I guess part of me wouldn't be so bitter about all this if CBC females here didn't often state they didn't want CBC males cause they remind them of their fathers. Sheesh...

 

[BocoDragon]

Not really. Apart from the mixed spanish people, the vast majority looks distinctively asian. Could be mistaken for mexican/south American sometimes though.

The fact that they could be mistaken for mexican/south American proves my point. Would a Japanese be mistaken for a mexican, ever?

It's certainly the Mongoloid/Caucasoid distinction... Filipinos have a mostly caucasoid look, with hints of mongolid.

True. But most Southeast Asian people do have mongoloid features, although ofcourse not as strong as Japanese/Chinese.

Indonesia, Phillipines and Malyasians are very much considered Asian in Holland, here the confusion starts with South Asians, which have less (or none?) mongoloid features

They'd be considered Asian technically here in Canada too. And yes, South Asia is the confusion point. Maybe we see it similarly.

But I have argued that certain populations, regardless of technical location, do not register as particularly asian to many people. And it seems like the caucasian/mongoloid difference explains that distinction.

 

[gaming_noob]

I'm Chinese and I've only dated white women...first was a Russian for a few years and now I'm happy with a Canadian for more than 3 years.

 

[Chuckie]

The fact that they could be mistaken for mexican/south American proves my point. Would a Japanese be mistaken for a mexican, ever?

It's certainly the Mongoloid/Caucasoid distinction... Filipinos have a mostly caucasoid look, with hints of mongolid.



They'd be considered Asian technically here in Canada too. And yes, South Asia is the confusion point. Maybe we see it similarly.

But I have argued that certain populations, regardless of technical location, do not register as particularly asian to many people. And it seems like the caucasian/mongoloid difference explains that distinction.

I understand your point, but somehow we do perceive things differently (which simply might be in the eye of the beholder)

If I see a Philipino, Thai, Malaysian or Indonesian, I instantly think: Asian. While they might not the same strong mongloid features as Chinese, Korean, Japanese, they do share other characteristics, almond shaped eyes, often a short nose. I would never mistake them for 'caucasian'.
The funny thing is I have also mistaken South American with Asian a couple of times, but I those cases thought they were Asian.

So maybe it also depends on what you 'expect' someone to look like.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

I'm Chinese and I've only dated white women...first was a Russian for a few years and now I'm happy with a Canadian for more than 3 years.

Living outside of China, right?

I just have the impression a lot of chinese men living in China arent really gentleman-like at all. They treat the gfs as some kind of working-tool, that should be able to cook and clean.
And they, themselves, are lazy as fuck.

I know some relatives of my gf, who are just like that. The boy is playing some Game on PC, while the wife is taking care of the babies and clean everthing.
A friend of my gf had a bf and when we went to eat together, he was totally egoistic. We had this big plate and somehow instead of helping his gf, he just ate without caring for his gf.
I heard a lot of stories like that from friends who also have a chinese gf. Dont really wanna generalize it, but at least my experience told me that somehow there is a difference on how the foreigners I know treat their gfs and the chinese themselves treat them.

 

[shanshan310]

I dunno what I would categorize them as.. but yeah I agree with you. They don't display features of being particularly mongoloid. Just a little bit.

Waht. They totally do. My Indonesian friends get mistaken for Japanese people in Japan all the time.

 

[Trojan X]

My friend in London is black and her man is chinese. They are happily in love with each other and they have a little-one together. I'm please for them!

In honesty, compared to black guys going with asian girls it is indeed rare to see black girls with asian men (girls that are half black and half asian doesn't count), so I am happy to see that my friend is happy together and represented both sides (family) well. Thumbs up. Asian guys that are interested in girls outside their race, do not be afraid, just go for it and if it doesn't work out then move on to the next girl. Simple as that. The same applies for non-asian girls, if you are interested in Asian men, just go for it, don't play any games because it's tough enough as it is, just make it happen and hope it works out.