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[CambriaRising]

It didnt hold them back last year with Black Flag so why would they decide to do so now?

Marketing deals.

 

[Maintenance]

It didnt hold them back last year with Black Flag so why would they decide to do so now?

Marketing deals, maybe? Black Flag was with Sony, I remember them showing it in a conference, and it even crashed, lol.

 

[Dead_Pixel]

So that's why it's called "Unity".

 

[Xando]

Looks like i save 60€ to avoid all debates with my girlfriend.

 

[Crossing Eden]

The broll footage we for for our preview is from the xbox one version according to ubisoft, and except for some framerate issues I think it looks quite great. I had to include it in our interview (French only sorry), but you can check it there:
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_assassin_s_creed_unity_interview_d_alexandre_amancio-33182_en.html

That's 900p? Holy shit that looks good, is the framerate stable?

 

[vpance]

I could forgive it for Watch Dogs since it was cross gen but this is stupid.

 

[Carn82]

This is in line with what I heard a few weeks ago (MS moneyhat).

 

[Daviii]

I know, being cpu bound and having to use that would've been fine I mean they both run the same cpu. Fire the PR guy he blows for telling him to say that.

No, saying you're CPU bound due to the AI for 30fps is something.

Saying you're CPU bound due to the AI for 1080p is bullshit.

Your AI overhead impacts how fast you can process the actions and behaviours so it affects framerate for sure. But it has no fucking impact on the resolution on which you render the game.

If Xbox One is able to render this at 900p, PS4 is able to do it at 1080p. So this is bullshit.

And I seriously doubt it is LEGAL to pay to cripple products on the competition to make yours look better. So we will NEVER get confirmation of any MS deal regarding this.

Because it is borderline legally acceptable, and a pile of horse shit for consumers, and the final confirmation I will never buy a Microsoft/Ubisoft product again.

 

[Orniletter]

They just said that they're planning to bump the resolution up to 1080p for the ps4 version. It's in the OP.

Reading comprehension strikes again.

Ubisoft has given no indication that it has plans to do the same for Unity.

Right there in the OP.

 

[Gaz_RB]

That is hilarious that they would even admit that. What are they thinking?

 

[gamerforever]

I was expecting 30 frames based on the prior games, so that's no shock.

In terms of the resolution, c'mon now. If they can make it prettier at 900p with effects than it would be at 1080p without any then they made the right choice.

Who cares about numbers, lets just focus on its final quality

Ah, it won't look any better! I won't be buying this now and if they do it to Far Cry 4 they can stuff that too.

 

[Castef]

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff"

So it's all NeoGaf's fault!

 

[JimmyRustler]

They can get fucked, they actually admit that the GPU isn't the bottleneck then go on to say that the resolution will suffer anyway. What the fuck does AI have to do with effects done on the GPU.

Wasn't MS insisting on it that all 3rd party games look identical at launch? Maybe thats why the resoluions will be the same at launch.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Wtf is wrong with people.

You see a game that looks cool, that you plan on buying.

And then suddenly its announced its not 1080p and 60fps and suddenly the game is shit, 3/10, do not buy.

I agree that the parity force is stupid, but come on.

The problem is not that it's not 1080p. No one would be whining if Ubi went and said "look, we tried, but 900p is all we can get with this new engine". Disappointed, but not pissed off.

They announced that they locked out the PS4 on 900p on purpose for the sake of parity. And that's fucking bullshit that shouldn't be supported.

 

[Brannon]

Assassin's Creed Unity: united in framerate, united in resolution!

 

[Archaix]

I just don't buy Ubisoft's big release games to avoid all the shitty games and stuff. It's been a solid strategy.

 

[KojiKnight]

They confirm they can get 100fps if it's just the graphics and not the AI, they then lock down resolution by "we don't want to cause debates"... Le sigh.

Assassin's Creed Unity: united in framerate, united in resolution!

Should have been the first post.

 

[turcy]

hahahahaha, ohhhhh ubisoft...

i hate you.

 

[Saty]

http://a.pomf.se/edissd.webm

 

[CambriaRising]

I know why, because of marketing but my real question is why did sony just let go on assassin creed this year? They been promoting the series for years now and they just stopped this year.

Watch_Dogs and Far Cry 4.

 

[SgtCobra]

ahahahhahah

since when did sakurai work on ass creed?

Should rename the game into Assassins Creed Parity.

This is in line with what I heard a few weeks ago (MS moneyhat).

I don't know who you are but if this is true then gawddamn.

 

[Scoot2005]

LOL. Way to ensure sales with PS4 owners. You know, the larger demographic. At least currently. Fucking morons.

 

[Zabuza]

This is in line with what I heard a few weeks ago (MS moneyhat).

Wow

 

[Leafhopper]

MS paid parity? Doesn't make sense otherwise.

Yeah sure that's the only reason for it. It can't be Ubisoft being dumb or anything.

 

[Raide]

Well, they learnt from Watch Dogs I guess!

 

[Xater]

So what other games have marketing deals with MS? Expect to see more of this.

Evolve, The Division and Tomb Raider.

 

[V_Ben]

How does this have anything to do with MS? Am I missing a joke here?

Well it's hard to say that a game is 'better on xbox' when the rival platform looks better and your exclusive content will turn up there eventually.

 

[KingJ2002]

Assassin's Creed Unity will run at 900p/30fps on both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, Ubisoft has confirmed, with the publisher opting to aim for platform parity to avoid discussion over the differences in performance.

That's the dumbest excuse i've ever heard. Imagine if this was the attitude between the 360, PS3 & the Wii?


I don't believe this for a second... there may be some sort of contractual obligation that both games must launch with console parity... and the loophole is to release the 1080p patch a day later.

 

[SmokedMeat]

why would anyone buy the ps4version lol
pc should be the version you should get

Because I can sell it when I'm done with it lol

 

[The Llama]

I'm more interested in the CPU comments. I knew they were weak but if what this guy is saying is accurate, that's pretty disappointing.

Yeah. Could be for many reasons though. We all know how poor devs usually are at multi-threading things...

 

[CaptainTiptop]

Wtf is wrong with people.

You see a game that looks cool, that you plan on buying.

And then suddenly its announced its not 1080p and 60fps and suddenly the game is shit, 3/10, do not buy.

I agree that the parity force is stupid, but come on.

Vote with your wallet. Send a message. If everyone goes out and buys the game regardless of this, there will be more forced parity bullshit in the future.

 

[Makareu]

Ubisoft, over 9000 employees and yet to have a PR department.

 

[gameoverbro]

Pre order cancelled not because it's 900p vs 1080p but the practice itself.

 

[sjay1994]

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff"

So it's all NeoGaf's fault!

5+ pages in less that 13 minutes.

 

[MDSLKTR]

So witcher 3 and the division next? Co-marketing deals but with a twist! And this gen started good...

 

[SteveO1683]

Guess I will wait for a sale then. I give them props for not sugarcoating the issue though.

 

[funkystudent]

It didnt hold them back last year with Black Flag so why would they decide to do so now?

Dragon Age, Wticher 3 and The Division are next on the Parity train. Choo! Choo!

 

[metalslimer]

This is in line with what I heard a few weeks ago (MS moneyhat).

If true, this would be one of MS's most pathetic stuns yet. Intetionally gimping another console's version because you fucked up yours.

 

[Einbroch]

I was expecting 30 frames based on the prior games, so that's no shock.

In terms of the resolution, c'mon now. If they can make it prettier at 900p with effects than it would be at 1080p without any then they made the right choice.

Who cares about numbers, lets just focus on its final quality

I don't think anyone in this thread has said "because it's 900p, no buy" simply because of the resolution. It's the fact that they are intentionally gimping one version because of the other side paying them money is what people are upset about.

 

[Daemul]

This part is far more interesting and severely more disappointing.

while explaining that it's the consoles' CPUs – not the GPU – that prevents Ubisoft Montreal from improving the game's performance.

"Technically we're CPU-bound," he said. "The GPUs are really powerful, obviously the graphics look pretty good, but it's the CPU [that] has to process the AI, the number of NPCs we have on screen, all these systems running in parallel.

"We were quickly bottlenecked by that and it was a bit frustrating, because we thought that this was going to be a tenfold improvement over everything AI-wise, and we realised it was going to be pretty hard. It's not the number of polygons that affect the framerate. We could be running at 100fps if it was just graphics, but because of AI, we're still limited to 30 frames per second."

*sigh*

When are XBOX4 and PS5 coming out?

 

[ProvenDeadly]

I'm willing to bet this has little to no effect in sales. Maybe the .01% of the population here.

 

[Gaz_RB]

No, saying you're CPU bound due to the AI for 30fps is something.

Saying you're CPU bound due to the AI for 1080p is bullshit.

Your AI overhead impacts how fast you can process the actions and behaviours so it affects framerate for sure. But it has no fucking impact on the resolution on which you render the game.

If Xbox One is able to render this at 900p, PS4 is able to do it at 1080p. So this is bullshit.

And I seriously doubt it is LEGAL to pay to cripple products on the competition to make yours look better. So we will NEVER get confirmation of any MS deal regarding this.

Because it is borderline legally acceptable, and a pile of horse shit for consumers, and the final confirmation I will never buy a Microsoft/Ubisoft product again.

lol how do you know this? you go from saying you doubt its legal, and then you go on to say "because it is borderline legally acceptable". Jesus.

 

[KingSnake]

This is so damn funny. And no matter how bad the PC port will be, it won't be this bad. I hope it will sell really well for the trend that it would set in that case.

 

[Jobbs]

The fact that they are gimping the PS4 version to have parity with the XB1 version to "avoid discussion" is obvious bullshit. The type of people who discuss such things will get far more mileage and drama out of this news than they would out of the versions not having parity, which honestly isn't really that juicy of a discussion at this point. It's kind of accepted that PS4 versions of games often have the edge. Not much mileage there.

So what's the reason? What could possibly be the reason? Would MS really pay them to nerf the PS4 version?

 

[DarthWalden]

I know why, because of marketing but my real question is why did sony just let go on assassin creed this year? They been promoting the series for years now and they just stopped this year. Also another question, accepting that microsoft is marketing it on their system how come they couldn't get exclusive content on it? They spent how much to marketing it on their system but no big reason to go with them instead on the ps4 version.

I have a feeling it because AC:U is the first AC game and I think Microsoft does a much better job of supporting these developers with multiplayer and network implementation in games. The sunset overdrive developers who post around here have said this was part of the reason that they decided to work with MS as well.

Also money.

 

[Toa TAK]

That's fine by me, I really don't care about the whole 60fps/1080p stuff.

Just be a good game, I've been itching for you all to get off these damn boats.

 

[NickFire]

You think mainstream people obsess over differences of resolution, graphical effects between the 2 consoles like people on forums, especially on GAF?

Wait for the sales thread. This game will sell well.

As for me getting all multiplats on pc.

You're right that less enthusiastic people don't care as much. Which is why its absurdly stupid to piss off the people who care a lot and game on the console with double the install base. They gain nothing (except whatever MS gave them) by letting MS tell people the One is just as good to people who know its a bullshit claim. They lose those people and anyone who asks them what games are worth buying.

 

[matrixman92]

dont really have a problem with this. Shadow of Mordor is around this res and fps on xbox one and it looks perfectly fine. Was going to buy this on ps4, but glad it doesnt matter what console at all now

 

[StuBurns]

Yeah, i dont believe they will be the same.
I predict differences in detail and effects handling and/or drops on both platforms.
Its qupte from a producer, not an engineer. I really doubt that their engine engineering team would just lock them both on the same settings.

A producer would be privy to the finer details of the co-marketing agreement, a better source for detail I would argue.

 

[ymmv]

You think mainstream people obsess over differences of resolution, graphical effects between the 2 consoles like people on forums, especially on GAF?

Wait for the sales thread. This game will sell well.

As for me getting all multiplats on pc.

The PC version of AC:Unity is done by Ubisoft Kiev...