Asus ROG Swift PG278Q monitor, 1440p/144hz/G-Sync

Durante said:
Sony does ;)

Even 4k now: "Also on display was a 30″ 10-bit, 4096 x 2160 resolution 4K OLED panel. Though no pricing has been set yet, Gary did hint that we could expect a true production model to be ready sometime this year."

Probably ~$20k.
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You know what? That's fine. I don't care about inflated price tags for early adopters.
Just start doing it. Prices will eventually come down over time.
 
Tain said:
No HDMI kinda kills this for my setup.
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I suppose you can use an HDMI->displayport adapter with this just fine, if you really want it.

Though if you drop the money this monitor you really should be using displayport anyway. It's 1440p 144hz, neither of which HDMI can do on it's own, at least not until HDMI 2.0 becomes a thing.
 
mkenyon said:
This is for gaming. If you want a vertical monitor you should get something that is intended for workstation use.
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Eh don't forget some of the people who can afford 1k displays probably are using eyefinity or surround set ups.

It's a legit concern.
 
Ziffles said:
I suppose you can use an HDMI->displayport adapter with this just fine, if you really want it.

Though if you drop the money this monitor you really should be using displayport anyway. It's 1440p 144hz, neither of which HDMI can do on it's own, at least not until HDMI 2.0 becomes a thing.
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I'd obviously be using displayport for my PC, but my current monitor is used for my PC and for vertical-screen Xbox 360 games. If an HDMI to displayport adapter doesn't introduce any lag I guess I'd be fine with that.
 
I don't think it adds latency, but if you're switching back and forth over a single input then you'd also need a displayport switch on top of everything.
 
Ziffles said:
I don't think it adds latency, but if you're switching back and forth over a single input then you'd also need a displayport switch on top of everything.
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Gsync adds latency but the net gain caused by removing vsync and having the monitor controlled by the GPU makes gsync latency irrelevant.
 
Yes, g-sync had a small latency penalty in its original implementation because the module polled the panel. Nvidia said in January they hoped to remove the need for polling in a future revision. Who knows if this product relies on polling or not.

http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/

Even with polling, there is a net improvement in latency versus vsync and it compares very favourably with vsync off, only struggling slightly as you get right up to the 144fps limit.
 
Quixz said:
I use my Benq XL2420T for both PC and PS4 and have been looking for a bigger, 1440p, high Hz monitor. This would've been a good upgrade for me.
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I have the same monitor. Too bad there is not a g-sync kit to it yet (and maybe never will be).
 
2420TX owner here as well. I might get this eventually because I could use the screen real estate for work as well as gaming, but still $800 is rough. Maybe when (if) it comes down in price. Hopefully BenQ has something in the works to compete with this.

I didn't realize so many people had monitors doubling as console displays, but that makes sense the more I think about it. Maybe they tried adding an HDMI for backward compatibility but it wound up looking like crap scaled up to 1440p.
 
Yeah, I guess it would be.

So in my case I'd probably be best keeping my current monitor for vertical 360 stuff and getting a new rotatable stand for this monitor (MAME with 1440p HLSL and gsync is way too appealing to pass up). Hopefully all the shifting around doesn't become obnoxious whenever I want to play a vertical 360 game head-on.
 
Hoo-doo said:
Are the garish red LED's optional?

What is it with these companies and designing their gear like goddamn Alienware. Make it black, make it unobtrusive, make it look clean. That way people that don't want a X-TREME GAMING-virginity-den in their living room can actually enjoy these things.
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Here are the other models on-show at COMPUTEX:

Acer

Model: XB280HK
Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K)
Screen Size: 28 inches
Availability: Shipping Q2, available worldwide Q3

Model: XB270H
Resolution: 1920x1080
Screen Size: 27 inches
Availability: Shipping Q2, available worldwide Q3

AOC

Model: G2460PG
Resolution: 1920x1080
Screen Size: 24 inches
Availability: Shipping Q2, available worldwide Q3

ASUS

Model: PG278Q
Resolution: 2560x1440
Screen Size: 27 inches
Availability: Shipping Q2, available worldwide Q3

BenQ

Model: XL2420G
Resolution: 1920x1080
Screen Size: 24 inches
Availability: Q3

Philips

Model: 272G5DYEB
Resolution: 1920x1080
Screen Size: 27 inches
Availability: Shipping Q2, available worldwide Q3
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http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-g-sync-monitors-unveiled-shipping-soon-worldwide

For specifics on availability I recommend staying connected to the manufacturers' communities. For example, the ASUS ROG team regularly provide updates on their forum.
 
AndyBNV said:
What's in the article is what I can share. For everything else I have to refer you to the manufacturer. Sorry.
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I guessed as much, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask. I assume they're running into the limits of current connections there.
 
I don't want to derail the thread, but can anyone tell me if this display is actually 240Hz?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HZZZM5G/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Of course when I see 120-240-600Hz on these TVs I automatically think that it's some Smooth Motion bullshit, but I tried to search around the internet and I just can't find anywhere where it indicates that this display is native 60Hz, in fact, on Amazon and this website it actually says "Native Refresh Rate 240Hz".

So whats up with this?
 
UnaiGamer said:
In theory, it would be better upscaling from 720p than 1080p, right? Since 1440p is 4 times 720p.
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4k has a big advantage for scaling since it's 2x1080p and 3x720p.

I've actually been leaning toward 4k because of the benefits for multiboxing - you can cleanly fit 4x1080p or 9x720 windows. The problem with 4K GSYNC for that application is GSYNC needs fullscreen and doesn't work with multiple windows, so 120fps would be better. Since there won't be any 4k/120 for a while, I've been thinking about a 4K HDTV instead. If I'm stuck with 60, it's going to be on a big screen, not a monitor.
 
Raticus79 said:
4k has a big advantage for scaling since it's 2x1080p and 3x720p.
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No, this is not right.

4k is 4 times 1080p.

1920 * 1080 = 2.073.600 * 4 = 8.294.400
3840 * 2160 = 8.294.400

Edit: 4k is for 1080p the same 1440p is for 720p. 4k is also 9.6 times 720p.
 
UnaiGamer said:
No, this is not right.

4k is 4 times 1080p.

1920 * 1080 = 2.073.600 * 4 = 8.294.400
3840 * 2160 = 8.294.400

4k is for 1080p the same 1440p is for 720p.
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He probably meant it is a 2x upscale in both the horizontal and vertical directions, but yes 4k is 4x 1080p. In this fashion, 4k upscaled from 720p is a 3x upscale in both the horizontal and vertical directions. Because of these even integer values, upscaling 720p or 1080p to 4k won't have any noticeable image degradation unlike scaling 720p or 900p to 1080p.

UnaiGamer said:
Edit: 4k is for 1080p the same 1440p is for 720p. 4k is also 9.6 times 720p.
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No, 4k is 9x 720p if 4k means 3840x2160.
 
Right, I was just referring to the relative increase on each side, not the total pixel count. 2160 = 2x1080 and 3x720. For total pixel counts, it's 4x and 9x (which is why it can cleanly tile four 1080 or nine 720 windows).
 
wildfire said:
IPS provides very good color quality compared to TN. Asus claims on other forums that the panel is as as good as low grade eIPS when viewing it straight on but I will wait for reviews instead of taking them at their word.
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The problem with IPS panels for Gaming/G-Sync monitors is the piss poor response times. I imagine a game running at 140 fps on an IPS panel would look like a blurry mess.
 
I've been waiting for this monitor for months. But I was hoping Maxwell would have hit Store shelves by the time this got released. The wait to build my new gaming rig is literally driving me insane. My laptop's GPS is on its last leg and now I can't play graphically demanding fames without it turning into a slide show. A pair of those GTX 780ti's sound REALLY damn tempting now. The release of this monitor is about to make me jump the gun.
 
I'm used to being let down every time I see a promising monitor. If it has the features you want, it's probably a TN. Well, someday.
 
This monitor sounds pretty great and I am about 90% sure I will get one. I was a little worried about the image quality since I'm used to the Dell Ultrasharp IPS monitors but it sounds like this one being an 8bit panel makes a significant difference over 6bit TN panels.

I do have a couple questions tho that May or may not be able to be answered until reviews start coming out.

First since this is a G-Sync monitor is there any reason why you WOULDNT want to have it set to 144hz? I am under the impression that even when frames per second dip below that or even below 60fps G-Sync will still provide a smooth experience so why is there even an option to set it lower than 144hz?

I saw that it supports ULMB but does that still work when GSync is turned on or does GSync have to be off? If the latter is the case can we still expect it to have very little if any noticeabe motion blur?
 
This is probably going to be my next monitor. I'm already used to a fast 120hz refresh rate and have heard great things about G Sync. 1440p also seems to be a good middle ground resolution. A noticeable IQ bump from 1080p without the crazy hardware requirements of 4K.

My single 780Ti should let me play most games a max settings for now, and I'll pick up whatever flagship 8 series card is released by the time Witcher 3 comes out.

Can't wait to see some reviews and real life impressions of this thing.

My Oculus DK2 is also coming in next month. This monitor will be for games that don't work on that.

Quite an exciting time to be a PC gamer!
 
SuicideUZI said:
This monitor sounds pretty great and I am about 90% sure I will get one. I was a little worried about the image quality since I'm used to the Dell Ultrasharp IPS monitors but it sounds like this one being an 8bit panel makes a significant difference over 6bit TN panels.

I do have a couple questions tho that May or may not be able to be answered until reviews start coming out.

First since this is a G-Sync monitor is there any reason why you WOULDNT want to have it set to 144hz? I am under the impression that even when frames per second dip below that or even below 60fps G-Sync will still provide a smooth experience so why is there even an option to set it lower than 144hz?

I saw that it supports ULMB but does that still work when GSync is turned on or does GSync have to be off? If the latter is the case can we still expect it to have very little if any noticeabe motion blur?
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Presumably because they would like to sell it to more than just the relatively niche g-sync capable market, though I can't imagine too many non enthusiasts buying an $800 monitor
 
CrunchyFrog said:
Presumably because they would like to sell it to more than just the relatively niche g-sync capable market, though I can't imagine too many non enthusiasts buying an $800 monitor
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Yeah....

I want a g-sync monitor, but at the same time, I don't want something that's incapable of active-sync if the time comes. When I buy a monitor, I expect it to last me close to a decade. My current ones are 11 and 6 years old respectively, and are still nice.

My must have list for my next monitor will be:

Two DisplayPort Inputs
One HDMI Input

Audio over DisplayPort and HDMI
DockPort - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DockPort

24 bit 2560x1440

I need something that will handle multiple computers gracefully without the need for a KVM switch in the middle.

I need something that I can plug a game console into as well.

This is not that monitor, but I expect that monitor will exist soon.
 
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