Asus ROG Swift PG278Q monitor, 1440p/144hz/G-Sync
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Definitely, will do.
I am really anal about PQ, though have never tried a TN panel. One of the reasons i decided to get this monitor was that many reviews have noted how well the PG278Q holds up to IPS panels. Second reason is motion blur... my gaming was split between a plasma (pioneer kuro 500m) and the dell u2711. The resolution was awesome on monitor but not having to deal with motion blur was awesome on hdtv.
Can't wait to experience 144hz at high resolution in FPS games and Dota 2. I am hyping it up man, it needs to be a glorious experience.
TFT Central have their review up.
Incredibly well written review, and it just solidifies everything I expect from the monitor. Aside from the poor viewing angles that come with TN panels, everything else sounds ace, especially the response times.
Without a doubt, this is the monitor I'm buying once the 800 series makes its full debut.
nextgeneration
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So, to take advantage of gsync, you need to hook up the monitor via displayport, right?
Lord_Balkan
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Yes. This goes for all the round of g-sync monitors as far as I know
plagiarize
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I wish they'd hurry up and release it already. I don't have the hardware for G-Sync yet, but I could push a few things to 144 Hz and 1440p while I wait.
Units are shipping as we type this.
plagiarize
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to the US? where can I order from?
Awesome review. Just reinforces my decision to pick up this monitor.
Hurry up and release the damn thing already ASUS!
Canis lupus
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Nice, too bad it doesn't support dvi or hdmi. Will likely replace my Korean IPS monitor with this.
They're shipping to retailers, so unless the retailer is taking pre-orders, you can't order until the stock arrives.
From the previous page:
Thank you, greatly appreciated!
Here's a random youtube video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-u-6i_RJRI
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Well, looks like I found my new monitor.
You can turn it off in the settings.
I made a 2560x1440 custom resolution (that will downscale to 1920x1200 on my monitor) just to see how performance was with a 680. Pretty abysmal, under Heaven anyway, so I'm not sure if, even with G-Sync, this would be a good monitor to go with rather than a 1080p g-sync monitor.
It's an interesting monitor for sure but using TN made it rather unattractive for me, to be honest.
I don't think I could use another non-VA type LCD at this point. TN and IPS contrast ratios are just too poor.
It's clearly possible to deliver high-speed monitors with MVA technology (as we've seen with Eizo's offering). I would kill for a 32" 1440p 144Hz monitor based on MVA. Refresh rate is the only thing my primary display is missing.
I don't think I could use another non-VA type LCD at this point. TN and IPS contrast ratios are just too poor.
It's clearly possible to deliver high-speed monitors with MVA technology (as we've seen with Eizo's offering). I would kill for a 32" 1440p 144Hz monitor based on MVA. Refresh rate is the only thing my primary display is missing.
1440p is still surprisingly demanding. I upgraded to a GTX780 not long ago and while performance at that resolution is generally acceptable, it does tend to require settings to be dropped and with some games still remains somewhat unusable if you're going for a smooth frame-rate. That's why I find the 4K push to be a bit on the odd side. There aren't any GPUs on the market that can drive reasonably demanding games at 4K without a huge performance penalty.
I understand the 4K push for video content and even workstation monitors, but for gaming I don't understand why everyone is ready to murder framerates to get there. So I agree with you.
Unfortunately, I like to edit photos on my home machine so 4K would be great for that, but absolutely horrible for gaming on the same machine (unless I use three monitors of course, 1080p gaming monitor, 4k productivity monitor, 1080p Kuro for "couch" gaming).
michaelius
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I like that strobing mode works from 85Hz - at least that won't need triple titans to reach in modern games.
I suppose that's true. Do you use a Mac? I've found that Windows UI scaling is still pretty horrible making the 4K experience kind of terrible. Things are just a bit too small for my liking.
I'm using four displays now myself. 1080p Kuro for couch gaming (high five), 1440p 32" MVA LCD, 1440p 27" IPS LCD, and 1080p 23" TN LCD (specifically for the capture PC).
Having all three LCD technologies side by side makes it pretty clear how rubbish IPS and TN are for black levels. The Kuro still wins, of course, but the MVA panel is surprisingly decent at handling dark content.
I looked at some 4K monitors but decided the frame-rate dips weren't worth it and the UI sizing issues were too severe.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Out of curiosity, if you had to recommend a 27" monitor right now, what would you go with?
I'd recommend a 1440p display using an MVA panel. I moved up from 27" to 32" inch myself (which is the perfect size for 1440p, I feel).
BenQ makes a lot of MVA monitors and there are a few others doing the same. It's not super common technology at that resolution, unfortunately, but it's worth hunting one of those displays down.
I'm on Windows, but I'm thinking of 4k more for the display of the photos during editing rather than doing something like running word processors on it.
I generally agree about TN and IPS black levels, though oddly enough my dad's TN panel doesn't look too bad to my eyes (I think it's one of the BenQ displays). My IPS display has horrendous glow which makes darker games painful - those get played straight on the Kuro.
I'm just VERY intrigued by the variable framerate technologies and would like to try one out, and I'd really like a higher than 60hz display if only for Windows work to smooth things out (I suppose I could always drag my 21" Sony Trinitron 500PS CRT monitor out of mothballs, haha).
It's very interesting but not as good as I had hoped when I first tried it.
It definitely helps with small dips under 60 fps (in that it prevents judder) but if you drop under, say, 50 fps it's still pretty obvious that the frame-rate isn't where it should be. I also find that jumping between a really high frame-rate down to something like 50 fps is still jarring.
It's cool technology but not as good as I expected.
Hmm, yeah, I don't really edit photos but I do a lot of Adobe Premiere and other video editing stuff that would benefit from 4k for sure (despite the tiny fonts). I was definitely tempted.
TyrantGuardian
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There seems to be some weird stuff with this monitor though, such as low persistence mode only working at 120Hz rather than at 144Hz. What's up with that?
The point of high refresh rates is to eliminate blur and create extremely fluid motion. With the strobing backlight at 120Hz, you don't really need to go to 144Hz.
60 Hz
120Hz
120Hz w/ strobing
I don't think all G-Sync monitors are able to do 144Hz, so the inclusion of the low persistence mode (ULMB) is based on existing strobing technology. That's my guess as to why it doesn't support more than 120Hz.
There is talk of future patches to allow ULMB to be variable though.
Lord_Balkan
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Where can I buy this?
G-Sync is Nvidia only, GTX650 Ti boost and upwards. Price around $800.
I think you're looking at ~800 USD, but it's hard to say because only one or two retailers around the world have any prices listed at the moment.
You will not be able to use G-Sync mode without a NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti Boost or better.
EDIT: Beaten
In order to maintain the same perceived brightness with shorter strobe times, you need a stronger backlight. Maybe they start running into problems with existing backlights at 144.
Yeah, I expect I'll be using that setup for games that support that refresh rate. Just worried the support for 85 might not be great.
Neat, that'll be a game changer if they can get that working.
shocktrooper
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There is not really much choice because there are only 3 different AMVA+ panels by AUO available right now: 24'' 1080p, 27'' 1080p and 32'' 1440p.
They have static contrast ratios between 2500:1 and 3800:1 and at least the FullHD panels should all be overclockable to 72-75hz. (not so sure about the 32'' anymore, reports by people who have them are mixed)
24'':
BenQ VW2430WH*
BenQ GW2460HS
BenQ EW2440L
iiyama X2483HSU / XB2483HSU* < mine
Samsung S24C750P
27'':
ASUS VN279QLB*
BenQ EW2740L
BenQ GW2760HS
iiyama XB2783HSU*
Samsung S27C750P
32'':
BenQ BL3200PT*
Acer B326HULymiidphz (no reviews for this one with the funny name)
Samsung S32D850 (not yet released)
* = recommended
What I find very interesting about the ROG Swift is that according to tftcentral the blur-reduction/backlight strobing seems to be finally working, with only reduced brightness and no image degradation.
Before I returned it, I tried the lightboost hack on the VG278HE but contrast and colours degraded massively, making it kinda pointless for someone who also enjoys a nice, vibrant picture.
But if you haven't experienced it - the difference is massive.
Getting rid of the sample-and-hold motion blur of LCDs is like a whole new level of motion clarity, and even 144hz looks like blurry mess compared to it.
It really looks exactly like the picture posted above, even in fast motion.
Paragon Pariah
Neo Member
I've been looking for a new monitor because my current one seems to be on its' way out. I've been eying this one but I'm concerned about how beefy a rig I would need to make use of it. I currently have an AMD card, so I would have to buy an Nvidia card to go with it, but I don't think I could afford a super high end SLI setup or anything because of the price of the monitor itself.
Would it be worth it using this monitor without being able to hit above 120fps in games? Would g-sync still make it worth it playing at lower framerates?
Would it be worth it using this monitor without being able to hit above 120fps in games? Would g-sync still make it worth it playing at lower framerates?
Dusktildawn48
Member
aarrrrgghhh, i cant wait any longer for this monitor! just do a freaking preorder for US!
TouchMyBox
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The cards which support g-sync don't struggle too much at 1440p. My gtx 670 is still getting by (but just barely)
Dusktildawn48
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Im not sure how these things go, with how hyped this monitor is will the preorders sell out?
Scan.co.uk has it available for pre-order and says stock will be limited until mid September.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/27-a...layport-2560x1440-350-cd-m2-1ms-2xusb-30-port
If you really want this monitor, I would pre-order as soon as it becomes available.
diggmcbadass
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It became available for preorder here (norway) a few weeks ago. At first they said it would be in stock 17th, but now they are saying 28th. I hope they aren't bullshitting the date due to not knowing. I preordered it immediately, which was an added bonus since the initial price was 500nok (~80usd) lower than it is now, but the wait is killing me.
Dusktildawn48
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do you guys think this'll go up for preorder on amazon? i have an amazon credit card and looking to buy using that
I hope so. I buy most of my stuff from Amazon. Checking it daily.