That's pretty rare, I've logged around 400 hours on Meruru and that only happened once
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Atelier Community Thread: Successfully synthesized a Barrel!
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That's pretty rare, I've logged around 400 hours on Meruru and that only happened once
Maybe I was just unlucky. Definitely started happening to me a lot (vita)
Maybe 20s is an exaggeration though. I'm pretty impatient. Also, Mimi was my favorite to use and outside the workshop was the most popular location for this to happen to me
how the hell did you net 400 hours?
Never turned the system off.
And only actually played for a tenth of that time.
chrominance
Member
I can't tell if Escha & Logy is actually longer than the other games, if I'm just taking my sweet-ass time, or if time itself is inflating. I went back and checked how many hours I put into all the Atelier games I've played (yeah I'm one of those nerds who logs all their gaming time) and I've noticed a disturbing trend:
Rorona: 36 hours
Totori: 43 hours
Meruru: 55 hours
Ayesha: 64 hours
Escha & Logy: 85 hours and counting
At least with Ayesha, I had the excuse of going for the Platinum (don't think I even completed a second full playthrough of Rorona or Totori), but with E&L that's going to take at least one more playthrough (stupid girl's association trophy).
Rorona: 36 hours
Totori: 43 hours
Meruru: 55 hours
Ayesha: 64 hours
Escha & Logy: 85 hours and counting
At least with Ayesha, I had the excuse of going for the Platinum (don't think I even completed a second full playthrough of Rorona or Totori), but with E&L that's going to take at least one more playthrough (stupid girl's association trophy).
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I've done this too. XD
I think one reason Escha & Logy is taking longer for me than previous games (up to Meruru) is that I spend much more time synthesizing per item. I want to really optimize my skill use, and once you get a large amount of skills to chose from and higher quality materials that gets quite challenging.
But it's great to be able to make 4 items in 1 day of something which nominally takes 2 days for 1
Makes alchemy even more satisfying than it was in the Arland trilogy.
But it's great to be able to make 4 items in 1 day of something which nominally takes 2 days for 1
Makes alchemy even more satisfying than it was in the Arland trilogy.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I think one reason Escha & Logy is taking longer for me than previous games (up to Meruru) is that I spend much more time synthesizing per item. I want to really optimize my skill use, and once you get a large amount of skills to chose from and higher quality materials that gets quite challenging.
But it's great to be able to make 4 items in 1 day of something which nominally takes 2 days for 1
Makes alchemy even more satisfying than it was in the Arland trilogy.
Indeed. The addition of skills during synthesis adds tons of customization options, and so I too spent a lot more time synthesizing than before. XD
chrominance
Member
I've been doing the same, though alchemy skills were also in Ayesha (minus the element pips, I think they just used CP) so I've been spending all this time in two games now optimizing skill use. Actually, a bunch of the nice things about Escha & Logy's alchemy system come from Ayesha--ingredients you find in the field stacking in your container and all having the same traits/quality, for example.
I kind of miss being able to set how many of an item you want when synthesizing items, though. Some of the tasks where you have to make multiple bombs/healing items suck because there's no way to make more than one item at a time (Quantity +1/+2 add to the uses on an item in those cases, but you still just get one item).
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
dakkumauji
Member
I hope we get lots of jumping action in battle Cortez using that pike.
So there's some gameplay footage up now for Atelier Shallie. A couple of interesting things from watching it:
Time management does indeed look like it is gone from the game. Will be interesting to see how this game pans out, both to me personally and sales wise. The last time they removed the time managment, the games didn't sell very well.
The environments and fields look like they have gone through a massive overhaul. They actually look big and nice in this one, despite you being able to actually rotate your camera in this game. There's also a map now, when you're out in fields. Which probably means they will be a lot more complex than the previous ones in this series.
I am excited by what I've seen so far. There are also some scans of some of the new characters out there. The old dwarf is my favourite so far.
Time management does indeed look like it is gone from the game. Will be interesting to see how this game pans out, both to me personally and sales wise. The last time they removed the time managment, the games didn't sell very well.
The environments and fields look like they have gone through a massive overhaul. They actually look big and nice in this one, despite you being able to actually rotate your camera in this game. There's also a map now, when you're out in fields. Which probably means they will be a lot more complex than the previous ones in this series.
I am excited by what I've seen so far. There are also some scans of some of the new characters out there. The old dwarf is my favourite so far.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I'm still looking forward to the game, but not gonna lie; losing the time management is kind of a bummer. :/
Wow, interesting that they're changing the formula pretty drastically in the middle of a series. I really liked the time management system, but I don't mind playing a game without it since there are a lot of other subsystems which make the game fun.
The footage only had a few clips, but I love how the environments look. It's a pretty game.
afreaknamedpete
Member
I'll also miss the time limit... but it's nice that they have actual dungeons now.
What I'm worried about is this "make alchemy easier" business. A super in-depth item crafting system is mandatory for atelier! E&L's is probably the best alchemy system of the PS3 atelier games, and I hope they improve upon it instead of taking features away. I can't read japanese, but the alchemy screen revealed so far seems far less information dense than E&L's alchemy screen, so I'm rather pessimistic.
What I'm worried about is this "make alchemy easier" business. A super in-depth item crafting system is mandatory for atelier! E&L's is probably the best alchemy system of the PS3 atelier games, and I hope they improve upon it instead of taking features away. I can't read japanese, but the alchemy screen revealed so far seems far less information dense than E&L's alchemy screen, so I'm rather pessimistic.
chrominance
Member
I don't actually understand how the games are going to work without time management now. The whole thing about the game was having to do as much as possible to unlock the various endings in the game; if you have unlimited time, doesn't that break that system? My worry is they'll find some other way to lock people's endings away, i.e. through endless grinding (dodge one hundred lightning bolts in a row to unlock Marion's ending!).
That said, I haven't actually watched the footage yet, since it takes half an hour to download and the NicoNico player doesn't let you skip ahead. Also, the woman that opens that video is nuts. Makes me feel like the Atelier series is targeted towards imbeciles and the brain damaged.
That said, I haven't actually watched the footage yet, since it takes half an hour to download and the NicoNico player doesn't let you skip ahead. Also, the woman that opens that video is nuts. Makes me feel like the Atelier series is targeted towards imbeciles and the brain damaged.
dakkumauji
Member
For those who don't want to watch the entire NicoNico video:
Gameplay
Shallistera Intro
Shallote
All thanks to VividAriah~
Gameplay
Shallistera Intro
Shallote
All thanks to VividAriah~
chrominance
Member
I wonder if maybe they just changed the way time management works? There's still a bar in some of the gameplay footage (Shallistera in the ice field, for example). Though it is weird that there's no date, and Shallotte's section has no bar. Maybe that's related to their unique field action or something.
One way I could see them streamlining it is if only traveling and alchemy took up time, while fighting battles and collecting materials didn't. Those were always the least constraining parts of the time stuff anyways and getting rid of it would make the system a lot easier to explain. But you'd think they would still show the date in those cases, and maybe I'm just trying to think my way around the obvious.
One way I could see them streamlining it is if only traveling and alchemy took up time, while fighting battles and collecting materials didn't. Those were always the least constraining parts of the time stuff anyways and getting rid of it would make the system a lot easier to explain. But you'd think they would still show the date in those cases, and maybe I'm just trying to think my way around the obvious.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
So they actually went and did it after all
Durante post if you're ok
Durante post if you're ok
Hours Left
Member
Sooooooooooo, Kortez is hot as hell.
Good on ya, Gust.
Good on ya, Gust.
I can't say I like the idea. On the other hand, I did enjoy the Atelier Iris games, so we'll see.
Hours Left
Member
Every Atelier game has alchemy.
Hours Left
Member
Well, the Iris sub-series, for example, does have less complex alchemy gameplay, but it is still far more in-depth than your standard crafting system found in more other JRPGs.Well perhaps "less emphasized" is the right word there
yea another one here for #TeamShallote
The game looks really good and I am really excited. But I still have lots of atelier games I need to play before I play this.
R_thanatos
Member
An atelier community thread ?
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Spirit Icana
Member
Wow, the Japanese voices aren't annoyingly high pitched this time. That makes me REALLY happy. Now I feel like importing again. lol
The free camera and full dungeons and towns look really really neat. I wonder if the world map will be gone in this installment just as the time limit has gone bye bye. Hopefully the childhood friend and mommy are fun/interesting supporting characters.
Oh and...
Team Shallie/Shallistera for me. Seems the game is named after her.
Anyway, with time limit gone and a potential full blown 3D world open to explore, this game is looking quite different from all the Atelier games on PS3 thus far. I hope the battle system kicks butt. I wouldn't mind a little drama and some tense conflict inserted into the story as well. Make the chit-chats interesting, Gust!
The free camera and full dungeons and towns look really really neat. I wonder if the world map will be gone in this installment just as the time limit has gone bye bye. Hopefully the childhood friend and mommy are fun/interesting supporting characters.
Oh and...
Team Shallie/Shallistera for me. Seems the game is named after her.
Anyway, with time limit gone and a potential full blown 3D world open to explore, this game is looking quite different from all the Atelier games on PS3 thus far. I hope the battle system kicks butt. I wouldn't mind a little drama and some tense conflict inserted into the story as well. Make the chit-chats interesting, Gust!
itzknickknac
Member
I need to get back to playing Rorona, so I can play the rest. These game times are helpful. I need any kind of motivation to get myself playing again.
Have been playing Escha & Logy for review purposes and I've really enjoyed it, might look into others in the series. Can anyone else who has finished it clear up a couple of things for me?
- Is there
after the last boss? And is there like a
to go with?
- I've heard talk of ultimate weapons? Do you get them from
I'm going through new game+ on Logy's side this time and will probably get to that sooner or later.
Can anyone else who has finished it clear up a couple of things for me?- Is there
multiple trophies to collect depending on the option choices
conclusive/canon choice
- I've heard talk of ultimate weapons? Do you get them from
clearing all the assignments or beating the optional super bosses?
Have been playing Escha & Logy for review purposes and I've really enjoyed it, might look into others in the series.
- Is thereafter the last boss? And is there like amultiple trophies to collect depending on the option choicesto go with?conclusive/canon choice
- I've heard talk of ultimate weapons? Do you get them fromI'm going through new game+ on Logy's side this time and will probably get to that sooner or later.clearing all the assignments or beating the optional super bosses?
You don't really have to spoiler tag stuff like that, but to answer them in order: yes, no, and you have to make them yourself, though you'll get good materials from bosses
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Perhaps I shouldn't ask here, but anyone watching the Atelier anime?
I am, it's pretty good so far and seems to be a straight adaptation
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I'm thinking of watching it in lieu of playing the game, since it'll probably be shorter. lol
I wouldn't recommend that honestly, playing a game is always better than watching an adaptation
dakkumauji
Member
After watching the first episode, thought it was really well done.
Definitely wasn't the cute girls doing cute things I thought they were going to do from the teasers (though I guess that's to be seen). Definitely seems to be following the plot of the game.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I'd tell you to play the game, but I'm biased obviously. XD
Plus there's a lot of derp in the anime.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's much easier to watch the anime and leave the game sealed, because of the time required. lol
But the anime was nice. Dare I say, perhaps Aria-esque.