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August Wrasslin' |OT| Make a.. make a good...uh...a good wrestling thread
- Thread starter Bluekaveli
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I think Sandow and Miz honestly helped each other. Sandow brought a lot of attention to both of them with the stunt double gimmick and it helped Miz kind of find himself with the "Hollywood" gimmick he does pretty excellently now, plus it helped Miz learn how to work with a manager/valet better.
Cena was
Wrestlemania
Banned
Yeah. Turns it from a cool gimmick to a Burning Man costume.
serenewarfare
Banned
No, Cena was. But that's because he cashed in a week in advance. Sandow was the first to lose a cash-in on a weakened opponent.
Yeah I'm not a huge fan of the headdress Demon Balor wears. I like the whole idea of the Demon gimmick but he needs to do a few things differently.
- No headwear
- Act significantly different between Normal Balor and Demon Balor in terms of presentation (he mostly is good with this)
- Different more brutal/visceral moveset as the Demon. Balor should be more of a slick professional wrestler, Demon Balor should be a savage brawler
shanafan
Member
Awesome planet. Don't mess with shanafan.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I never got Sandow personally. Also I can't take people seriously when they act like WWE missed out on their next Daniel Bryan.
Edit; the losing to a one-armed Cena thing was absolute bullshit though.
Edit; the losing to a one-armed Cena thing was absolute bullshit though.
shanafan
Member
serenewarfare
Banned
Nah, they were all weak sentinels. Just annoying and never stopped bothering me.
I don't know if you're serious or not, but I agree with the post. I'll repeat this, the Miz shouldn't be the champ of anything ever again. He can be entertaining on small doses, but other than that, he makes me want to turn the TV off.
Professor Beef
Banned
He wasn't that great at wrestling tbh. Competent sure, but wholly unremarkable.
August - December 1997 : Beginning of something awesome for WWE or beginning of the end for WWE....
So much awesome in late 1997:
Mankind becoming Dude Love and beginning to show the character depth he is capable of
DX forming with Triple H and Insurance Policy Rick Rude
The Rock joining The Nation
Austin vs McMahon
The Screwjob
HBK vs Undertaker Hell In A Cell
Kane!
The end of the amazing run of heel Bret Hart
and that's about all I can think of...unless you're a fan of faction warfare brawls.
So much awesome in late 1997:
Mankind becoming Dude Love and beginning to show the character depth he is capable of
DX forming with Triple H and Insurance Policy Rick Rude
The Rock joining The Nation
Austin vs McMahon
The Screwjob
HBK vs Undertaker Hell In A Cell
Kane!
The end of the amazing run of heel Bret Hart
and that's about all I can think of...unless you're a fan of faction warfare brawls.
British Monsoon
Member
Sucks, I thought Noam did some of his best work in PROGRESS - he was wasted in ICW and PCW, but no surprise there.
I'll concede that, but honestly I don't think being anything above competent is necessary for becoming WWE Champion
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Miz is fantastic. A heel who still puts over his opponents whenever on commentary or anything else. I don't wanna see him lose this Sunday to Apollo Crews.
Professor Beef
Banned
And yet they've both had way more memorable matches than Sandow. So...thanks for agreeing with me?
serenewarfare
Banned
Both of those guys are better than Sandow will ever be. And I like Sandow.
No lies really detected in either statement, and I do say this as a Sandow fan. Just saying, Sandow's in ring work was never really that much worse than Ambrose or Roman - however those two had much better opponents than Sandow usually did.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Sandow was the poster child for "replacement level wrestler."
Like everything about him and his character was just average, really. Just my opinion, man.
Like everything about him and his character was just average, really. Just my opinion, man.
Goddamn I loved that match so much. And all of Noam in PROGRESS as well. His promo back in the Garage asking nobody to tell his welfare officer about working there was so great.
serenewarfare
Banned
I think the idea of Sandow is much better than the reality of Sandow. Sure, he got over when given a shit gimmick with Miz. He should be commended for that, but a lot went into that. When he was on his own before Miz, he was nothing. Even before he lost to Cena, he was never really over and was never really more than average in any of his feuds. Hell, his feud with Cody just highlighted how much better Cody was than him IMO. I think the Mizdow thing was more "lightning in a bottle with a shelf life" than it was a sign he could be this big draw or star.
Between Miz and Apollo... Man, the IC title just can't get a break.
It's odd.
I want to like Apollo Crews. Guy has the whole package. He makes it look easy. He's legit awesome in the ring. I've even followed him since he was in the indies like so many other IWC favorites.
But something is missing with him. He just doesn't have it. He is bland and boring as fuck. No fire just "I'm happy to be here, don't bully me Sheamus!" If he finds his footing, guy can be a workhorse champion, but every time I see him, I might as well be watching The Great Khali wrestle. He's that bland and uninspiring. DO SOMETHING WITH THIS GUY. He's got pieces of the puzzle in spades, but a large bit of it is one big chunk of charisma that is just missing.
I want to like Apollo Crews. Guy has the whole package. He makes it look easy. He's legit awesome in the ring. I've even followed him since he was in the indies like so many other IWC favorites.
But something is missing with him. He just doesn't have it. He is bland and boring as fuck. No fire just "I'm happy to be here, don't bully me Sheamus!" If he finds his footing, guy can be a workhorse champion, but every time I see him, I might as well be watching The Great Khali wrestle. He's that bland and uninspiring. DO SOMETHING WITH THIS GUY. He's got pieces of the puzzle in spades, but a large bit of it is one big chunk of charisma that is just missing.
Sandow can actually string together some sentences in a reasonably charismatic and coherent way which puts him over 95% of NXT callups and most other members of the roster.
Could have been a solid midcard babyface but instead they stuck him with the most dead end gimmick possible. A waste, not a huge one but still a waste when they need as many bodies as they can get nowadays.
Could have been a solid midcard babyface but instead they stuck him with the most dead end gimmick possible. A waste, not a huge one but still a waste when they need as many bodies as they can get nowadays.
I saw one match of his a little while back, and they talked to him either before or after the match, I forget which. He needs a manager as a mouthpiece, and a part of his character.
sf2fanatic
Member
Miz vs Bray Book it!!
Make him The Miz's silent body guard who steps in when Miz needs him to, and is often the test for someone to get a title shot with Miz's IC belt.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
WHO'S READY FOR DEATHMARCH PART 2
6 HOURS OF SUMMERSLAM
6 HOURS OF SUMMERSLAM
slightconfuse
Banned
Crews will be fine when tozawa gets to the main roster
Bluekaveli
Member
Hating on Miz? Just like the Flo Rida, fuck you too
sf2fanatic
Member
Take a 10 McBlue
I would expect them to use Mr. Hughes if they were gonna do this.
Just to make blue happy.
serenewarfare
Banned
I disagree. I think he's a guy that happened to get over in a bad spot so people equate that to thinking he could get over in any spot. He was the right guy for the Mizdow role. That doesn't make him anything more than that.
Bluekaveli
Member
If they ever brought that piece of shit back, I swear I'm going to personally see it fit that Shamrock bashes his face in. Just horrible, he never did anything right. And the fact that he actually trained people makes me gag.
haha, mentioning Mr Hughes is like blue's bat signal!
slightconfuse
Banned
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I dunno, I just don't care for him even though I recognize a lot of people seem to like him and Maryse barely does anything.
I just feel like the act is really stale.
serenewarfare
Banned
Tozawa on Raw is a weird thing that I can't even imagine.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Corpus Christi crowd tonight. Brace yourselves.
Bluekaveli
Member
I fucking hate that guy. Just like Flo Rida. I hate his face, I hate his presence, I hate everything about him.
Wait..... Kane trousers? Why don't they have Kane be his mentor!
Be Jealous!