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AusGAF 6 - Ricki Lee is awful. Everything else about Australia is AMAZING [Free hugs]
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codswallop
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All gameplay options are; though not all items may not be it sounds like the "game" plays the same, and you can still win, though paying will accelerate the chances.
Buying more powerful stuff is what pay to win means. In that game, you can buy more powerful stuff. In Dota2, you can't.
There's certainly no pay to win going on in dota 2. It's more pay to accessorise, to make your character look slightly different, to make your game experience different to others.
It looks like you can also buy tournament passes in game which allow you to watch games live without having to follow a twitch/own3d stream. Money will be split between the organisers and valve.
Blog post about all of that here - http://blog.dota2.com/2012/06/did-you-see-that-kill/
Looks like teams are coming soon. AUSGAF-BAD-TEAM incoming I would imagine. We can get placed against other teams who suck!
Valve seems to be doing everything right so far. Well aside from keys and chests which I have hated since TF2
It looks like you can also buy tournament passes in game which allow you to watch games live without having to follow a twitch/own3d stream. Money will be split between the organisers and valve.
Blog post about all of that here - http://blog.dota2.com/2012/06/did-you-see-that-kill/
Looks like teams are coming soon. AUSGAF-BAD-TEAM incoming I would imagine. We can get placed against other teams who suck!
Valve seems to be doing everything right so far. Well aside from keys and chests which I have hated since TF2
codswallop
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In Molyneux's game there's no real guarantee spending that money will actually let you win. It's more like getting a free lottery ticket versus buying a thousand of them -- you can still lose.
This is the case with most games labelled "pay to win".
codswallop
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So then why have a problem with pay to win games?
That's how every f2p game aside from DOTA 2 works.
Buying every weapon in the game doesn't guarantee that you will always win, but it still tips the game your way.
This can never happen in DOTA 2
They're labelled "free to play" when that often means "free to play about a quarter of the game, to see the rest you'll have to pay." They're not all bad, but they're just not as upfront as games that are either a once off cost, or games that are free to play where the microtransactions are only cosmetic, such as with Dota 2 or Path of Exile.
codswallop
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You forgot TF2.
What about Tribes: Ascend? I thought the developers stated purchases weren't necessary to see the whole game.
The game in question (Curiosity) doesn't necessarily have content locked behind purchases. I think the game is a silly idea but that's beside the point.
I'd say save the money on the SSD, stick with 8GB RAM, and put it towards an i7 if you can. SSDs are great, but for gaming the money is probably better spend on the CPU over the HDD. If you already had an i7 in the build and money to burn I'd say the SSD is a better use of money than 16GB RAM.
Sutton Dagger
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Alright so I'm trying to get an idea of what I'm looking at cost wise for the PC I want to build. I don't have a clue what to get other than CPU/GPU, could I have some suggestions about components and why they are suited for my build? I will be looking to OC the CPU and GPU. Thanks guys/gals. Around the $1500 price range...
Mobo: ?
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz - $250
GPU: GTX 670 (not sure which one exactly) - $500
RAM: Should I get 8 or 16gb, and which one?
SSD: Should I get a SSD?
HDD: I guess a decent 2TB drive?
PSU: ?
CASE: ?
Mobo: ?
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz - $250
GPU: GTX 670 (not sure which one exactly) - $500
RAM: Should I get 8 or 16gb, and which one?
SSD: Should I get a SSD?
HDD: I guess a decent 2TB drive?
PSU: ?
CASE: ?
reptilescorpio
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8GB of RAM should be fine. Go with the cheapest clock right Fred?
Also the Sandisk SSD is super cheap and super fast, can't recall the name but Shaneus has one.
HAF912 for case has done me well, runs super quiet and super cool.
Corsair PSU.
Also the Sandisk SSD is super cheap and super fast, can't recall the name but Shaneus has one.
HAF912 for case has done me well, runs super quiet and super cool.
Corsair PSU.
You can buy weapons in the TF2 Mann Co Store.
Can't you buy gameplay items in that?
No idea! The only question is whether you can pay to make your character more powerful or not.
Buying the new axe is technically content.
Pick a store first. Where do you live? Arc is good for Sydney, Umart for Brisbane, I guess Pc Casegear for Vic.
codswallop
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Ahh, damn!
If you're going with "content", so is a hat. It might block someone's shot, so it still affects gameplay!
RAM: 8GB is fine. I've got 8GB and have never gone anywhere near its full potential. 16GB is a waste.
SSD: Yes you should. Install windows on it and your main programs. I've got and recommend the Crucial M4 128GB. Excellent drive, no problems.
Sutton Dagger
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I live on the Central Coast of NSW. I was just looking at PCcasegear.
The only DOTA 2 content that you pay for is purely cosmetic.
shanshan310
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Is this in the thread?!
I've resigned myself to waiting until the Blu Ray is out
I'll probably end up doing the same
monies...no its on her twitter @lauralovescake
im not posting it in the thread, it will validate a bunch of bullshit in there
codswallop
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What if you pay for a logo that affects someone who is colour blind and causes them not to see an enemy?
Everything in Ascend is unlockable with sufficient XP, it just takes a while to get sufficient XP yo
lol
seriously
listen to David Jaffe on Day 2 of Bombcast E3
he dropped truth bombs about F2P and why its a failed model at the moment
That's reaching. The axe directly affects gameplay by design.
You can pay for better weapons, abilities and classes in Tribes, but they are also reasonably unlockable by earning in-game exp, or whatever the in-game currency is.
Edit: Beaten.
:lol
codswallop
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Clearly facetiousness is lost on some of you.
You're full of feces today.
What a crappy joke.
It sure was a stinker.
codswallop
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Was this online or in store? I thought only the one in Ringwood was left in Vic?
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis is $2.50 today on Steam!
bodyboarder
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There's a tradie drinking XXXX gold on the train. If your going to drink in public, atleast get something full strength.
Worst is when tradies turn their iPod up full and use the headphones as speakers. Just shit Metallica, for about an hour.
There's non shit Metallica?
bodyboarder
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Update: he has moved onto bundy.
reptilescorpio
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I don't want to bump that thread again. Here's Katie's response: http://alivetinyworld.com/2012/06/20/standing-up-for-myself/
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