FallbackPants
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Pretty sure everything will be digital day one still. I was still planning on getting one, but I don't have to feel guilty about that now
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AusGAF 9 - F*** Off, We're Full (Of People With Different Ethnic Backgrounds)
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Pretty sure everything will be digital day one still. I was still planning on getting one, but I don't have to feel guilty about that now
reptilescorpio
Member
Also no more bullshit talk about the cloud now!
MS PR shill: "Well, the Xbone version of this game will be better as it is pushing an extra 30fps using the CLOUDDDD!"
Slightly less spineless than usual journalist: "But the console doesn't need to be online so how would that work? Game is online only then? I thought Sony have a similar Cloud thing?"
MS PR shill: "Well, the Xbone version of this game will be better as it is pushing an extra 30fps using the CLOUDDDD!"
Slightly less spineless than usual journalist: "But the console doesn't need to be online so how would that work? Game is online only then? I thought Sony have a similar Cloud thing?"
FallbackPants
Member
"How consumer fought back"
Who are the interviews with? Cab you now ask how the change affect them?
Who are the interviews with? Cab you now ask how the change affect them?
Basically had to give up on it. Interfered with my running too much thanks to complications like the shin fatigue and then the tendonitis.
reptilescorpio
Member
If they import a console from a non-smelly country, yes.
was mainly legal stuff, so less of that really. But I think there's still a good angle somewhere, just gotta find it
ClivePwned
Member
I can buy an Xbox without the likelihood of it tanking and having a price cut. I am glad they priced these things before today.
Also a bit pissed at myself for not preordering the PS4 from Amazon
92c holy shit!
Also a bit pissed at myself for not preordering the PS4 from Amazon
92c holy shit!
Oh wow, can't believe they actually backpedalled like this. I've never seen a company do this. This is good news of course but wow, it seems like they have no wtf they're doing. Especially after talking about how great their DRM is from their reveal all the way through E3.
New console launches, crazy times.
Alright Xbox 180 is a hilarious new nickname.
ClivePwned
Member
Double Holy Shit! James Gandolfini died.
reptilescorpio
Member
Only 51 too
reptilescorpio
Member
Sterling was fast.
m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=596871
m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=596871
That's pretty great that the XBONE will be region free and play games without an always online requirement, but man I'm sure as fuck still not giving that company any of my money.
You don't earn back any good will when your big turning point is reversing your restrictive anti-consumer policies because your competitors are getting better press than you .
You don't earn back any good will when your big turning point is reversing your restrictive anti-consumer policies because your competitors are getting better press than you .
shanshan310
Member
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee! I'm finished! No more essay exams ever!! I SWEAR there was another gaffer who was sitting in the exam hall. Anyway, incredibly relieved I can finally relax a bit. A day without work or exams has been a long time coming. Now I'm off to play DnD ~
bodyboarder
Member
Don't be. They don't charge until they ship. So I might be cancelling mine yet.
reptilescorpio
Member
Heh when Microsoft backflip and turn on some kind of DRM during the Xbone lifecycle we can finally call it Xbox 360 again.
(not my joke)
(not my joke)
Planet_JASE
Member
While this is good news for consumers, I agree that this calls in question Microsoft's entire console strategy of Always Online with the Power of the Cloud. If you don't have your console connected, will there be a discernible difference with regards to the player experience? If you are to believe the PR, complex calculation were to be handed off to servers in order to deliver a grander and more rich playing world. Whether that be more objects on screen, NPC AI calculations; that much was never fully specified.
If this is all true, does that mean that games will fundamentally change the user experience dependent upon whether or not the console is connected? Either way, I think this is going to result in lots of questions that Microsoft will either avoid like the plague, have to admit to tiered user base experience or admit that it was all unsubstantiated PR*.
*the last option is that Microsoft say "well you don't get the cloud anymore because you were mean to daddy and didn't want it to be always online. You only have yourself to blame. Stop crying or Microsoft will really give you something to cry about. You can have the cloud back when you give daddy your rights like he asked. But only then, not before."
If this is all true, does that mean that games will fundamentally change the user experience dependent upon whether or not the console is connected? Either way, I think this is going to result in lots of questions that Microsoft will either avoid like the plague, have to admit to tiered user base experience or admit that it was all unsubstantiated PR*.
*the last option is that Microsoft say "well you don't get the cloud anymore because you were mean to daddy and didn't want it to be always online. You only have yourself to blame. Stop crying or Microsoft will really give you something to cry about. You can have the cloud back when you give daddy your rights like he asked. But only then, not before."
dishwasherlove
Member
Does Amazon charge your card immediately or just before they ship? If it's not till November better watch that AUD.
Damn good feeling, isn't it? Congrats
Edit: All you lucky people with your PAX passes. Mine's at the damned post office. Was sent to the ex's of course, and she wasn't there to accept the registered mail (I was at home - my new home, ugh). Luckily I can pick my pass up on Saturday morning between 8:30am and 12:30pm
FallbackPants
Member
I don't think it'll make that much difference really. I'll bet some games will require a connection regardless, but for most the console needed a check in, not a constant connection. Those services should still exist, it'll just be a matter of some games needing it now
Is it really worth importing? Especially after shipping and the potential to need a step down converter. The PS4 may end up being a bit cheaper importing (though not enough to justify imo, especially a release console), the xbox even less so.
If the unfortunate happens, JB Hi-Fi have disc cleaning machines which will rectify the problem. It might cost you a few dollars to get it done, or if you know the games person there or are really nice (or really fucking rude and they want you gone ASAP) they might do it for free.
Essentially it does a cut and polish on the disc. When I worked there, every time a disc didn't work due to a scratch and I gave it a run through the machine, it fixed the problem. Those nasty gouged out rings the 360 can put on discs were no match.
ClivePwned
Member
Unless the dollar improves a fair bit there seems like there won't be anything gained from importing an Xbox. PS4 maybe but still not by much. Hey if you import both, you only need one step down converter.
So there's been a couple of articles floating around that seem to barely resist calling the consumers who rallied for this troglodytes for taking away their glorious always-online future. They seem largely predicated on Microsoft's benevolent generosity and change and experimentation for its own sake. I think it's an interesting viewpoint and had Microsoft led with this bold vision instead of kind of rolling around in the dirt I think they really could have actually had something there.
I think that was just marketing spin for "MMO infrastructure" so I doubt that will change, they'll just have to tone down the spin.
bodyboarder
Member
As it stands I can get a games + ps+ and console shipped to my door cheaper then buying just the console locally. Though with that said if the exchange rate continues to tank I'll buy local.
FallbackPants
Member
I think more than anything this shows the way Microsoft completely lost the PR war here. They could have used the points pushed in those articles but instead they just talked about the cloud and services
Eh, no, it's still a product design problem. A 24 hour check in is ridiculous, Valve can negotiate deals with all the publishers without requiring that, MS can too. Why the new stuff couldn't just be optional I don't know, but that would have been a better idea.
FallbackPants
Member
Oh yeah totally. But they barely even tried to sell it to people. If they offset the shitness of it along side the fairly awesome family sharing and other potential benefits it might not have been the complete clusterfuck that is became
dishwasherlove
Member
Now the DRM will just be drip fed instead of served whole.
ConfusedCat
Banned
They charge on shipment but you can buy giftcards early and apply instantly to the product to reduce the amount
Poimandres
Member
ClivePwned
Member
Does Dick Smith Australia ship to Australia?
joke about never having stock of the things they advertise
Poimandres
Member
Dick Smith Australia aren't clearing their Wii U's out at such a tasty price.
Not yet anyway!
Edit: just checked on the NZ site. It's click and collect only.
Standard. I wouldn't expect it until at least tomorrow. It said two business days to interstate metro areas.
http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/nintendo-wii-u/wii-u-black-console-premium-pack-dsnz-yg10001 Cheap cheap!
http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/help/online-orders/international-customers-nz
"Dick Smith ships to the following international locations; American Samoa, Cook Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Federated States of Micronesia, Norfolk Island, New Caledonia, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Western Samoa."
Maybe they'll ship here if you ask nicely.
http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/nintendo-wii-u/wii-u-black-console-premium-pack-dsnz-yg10001 Cheap cheap!
http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/help/online-orders/international-customers-nz
"Dick Smith ships to the following international locations; American Samoa, Cook Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Federated States of Micronesia, Norfolk Island, New Caledonia, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Western Samoa."
Maybe they'll ship here if you ask nicely.