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AusGAF IV - A No Hope, Government - Double the price, region locked and now adults
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reptilescorpio
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Batman isn't even coming out on the same day on PC. Indefinite delay to November some time. Hopefully they give us some kind of bonus for being treated as second best like always. They can pull stuff like the Catwoman code on consoles but with the content being in the game a hack for the PC version would eventually turn up to give you the access for free.3chopl0x said:
You will love the hell out of the new album then. Best musical surprise of the year.Box of Bunnies said:
roosters93
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Interesting. Cheers.Bernbaum said:
I was thinking you guys have a nice city before as I crossed the Goodwill Bridge.
roosters93
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Interesting. Cheers.Bernbaum said:
I had a play with one at the Telstra shop near king somethingorother station. Wish I had the money to pick one up now, my overseas trip wiped out my savings.
I was thinking you guys have a nice city before as I crossed the Goodwill Bridge.
Planet_JASE
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AusGAF, I would like your collective thoughts.
Does your opinion differ between where console games are heading vis-à-vis online passes and once off unlocking content and PC gaming?
If we're approaching this from purely a resale position, the opposition towards this is obvious and further inspection is redundant. However, from any other angle I struggle to make a differentiation.
Basically, aren't console companies just moving towards a Steam/Origin/Whathavyou service, where you purchase the license for that game and do not retain any right to transfer that ownership to anyone else?
Are people unhappy with PC Games having this model? Did it encounter the same resistance when they moved to that model, where previously you didn't have online checks and persistent internet connections? Is this just a situation that all industries moving from one particular business to another face?
Does your opinion differ between where console games are heading vis-à-vis online passes and once off unlocking content and PC gaming?
If we're approaching this from purely a resale position, the opposition towards this is obvious and further inspection is redundant. However, from any other angle I struggle to make a differentiation.
Basically, aren't console companies just moving towards a Steam/Origin/Whathavyou service, where you purchase the license for that game and do not retain any right to transfer that ownership to anyone else?
Are people unhappy with PC Games having this model? Did it encounter the same resistance when they moved to that model, where previously you didn't have online checks and persistent internet connections? Is this just a situation that all industries moving from one particular business to another face?
Planet_JASE said:
There's a trade off in PC games. And that trade off is lower prices (not for every title, and you still get some moron publishers who don't get it, but prices are generally lower).
I don't care that I can't resell my Steam games - because I buy them for $10-20.
It's the same reason there's no used DVD market anywhere near the level of the used video game market.
The economics are all out of whack.
ClivePwned
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evlcookie said:
i found the easiest way (not necessarily quickest)
is to search for the album on amazon, then drag the amazon photo into the itunes artwork window
reptilescorpio
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Don't be like that Ham! Can't just roll over and let the idiots win. If we discuss the fuck out of a situation then eventually everyone will know all the facts and be able to make a much more informed decision on the situation. Or just ignore the facts and push their own agenda. They will still know that they are doing the wrong thing at least.hamchan said:
SHOPPING centres will monitor customers' mobile phones to track how often they visit, which stores they like and how long they stay.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/money/creepy...rs/story-e6frfmci-1226166413071#ixzz1ak6z3ETx
Wowsers bowsers.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/money/creepy...rs/story-e6frfmci-1226166413071#ixzz1ak6z3ETx
Wowsers bowsers.
Planet_JASE said:
I grew up playing Amiga, Master System, Mega Drive, PS1 and pretty much every console after that. A game I buy is **mine** and it is up to me what I do with it. I will sell it, keep it, snap it in half, lend it to a friend, forget I loaned it at all, mount it in resin for perpetuity or play it every single day of my life should I so choose.
The movement towards a PC model of "lol sucker, you just bought the license /EULA trollface" is the complete antithesis of what gaming and buying games is about. A game, like a good book or film is something you share with other people. We cant make mix tapes with games, but we can lend them to a friend, play it on multiple machines (witness publishers recoiling in horror at that thought) or borrow them from video city.
The PC model is a compromise borne of piracy responses and disc cracking and all sorts of nasties. The console market has always had inbuilt and sufficient "DRM" in the way of being a closed system with unfeasible piracy measures (in many cases, not all obviously). It used to be though that doing so would risk breaking your machine, although personally I have never done this.
I fully believe console gaming is headed down the path of disaster with online passes and whatnot. And it will be worse off for doing so. PS4/XBox 3 will be complete and utter failures if they do so. From a publisher standpoint in many cases and from a gaming variety standpoint also. Wii U will be too if they bow to publisher demands and make it anti-consumer.
Wii succeeded this gen thanks to bringing back arcadey style games with high accessibility. The publisher driven "license" model is diametrically opposed to this model. Just as PC games and arcade games are different beasts, only there is only one market that has ever been truely successful, and that's the arcadey market. Arcade games like Donkey Kong or Mario or Pac Man etc are what bring in the new customers, and when it becomes to complicated or the publishers get aggressive, that market just walks away.
Gaming is about accessibility, and publishers are all about increasing control. One of those two has to give, and it sure as shit won't be the ones spending the money buying said games.
I see one of two futures:
1. Publishers dial it back a bit and start to resume growth which we last saw in 2008 or;
2. They keep finding new and innovative ways to fuck customers, and we go back to 1983.
Nationalise Qantas International!
http://www.theage.com.au/business/nationalise-qantas-international-20111014-1lo1o.html
Agree completely.
The economics dont really add up competing with all these subsidised air lines internationally. Time to bring the Kangaroo back home! It can actually become more profitable, and retain its jobs and services in Australia.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/nationalise-qantas-international-20111014-1lo1o.html
Agree completely.
The economics dont really add up competing with all these subsidised air lines internationally. Time to bring the Kangaroo back home! It can actually become more profitable, and retain its jobs and services in Australia.
Profit comes third. Duh!reptilescorpio said:
Holy shit, that Queen cover is EPIC. Is the album produced by Ben Folds like that other one he did not so long ago? I always loved his version of Common People. And of course, his Futurama appearance where he did The Real Slim Shady.
reptilescorpio
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Nah mate. That was business back in the pro-consumer days of 1998! Before Lindsay Lohan and Kotaku! This is how the world operates now.Shaneus said:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! 2011 business burns my eyes! Why have I got all my underpants!?!
reptilescorpio
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They do well enough to not have to close studios left and right like most publishers right now. Would consider them a very stable, smart minded company that continues to carve out a place for itself in the industry that is getting much harder for competitors to cut them out of.markot said:
reptilescorpio
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Crysis on PS3 for $30 is bullshit. Straight port of a 4 year old game when you can buy the sequel for the same price. If content holders reduced prices in line with what people value them at I would be much happier but XBLA/PSN has a lot of overpriced stuff that was set and forgotten about. At least Steam is proactive at getting my dollar, and tricking me into thinking I have to buy a game because it is much cheaper than I expected it to be.Choc said:
If there were 360 games available for $10 I would bite on a lot of them just for something to try.
I would normally characterise them like that, but I have no idea what they're doing with the 3DS and the Wii U. They probably can't repeat the wide blue ocean strategy again, I think they (and Microsoft and Sony) have eaten that mindspace for at least another half-decade's worth or so. Or perhaps they can, but they need to take a different tack to it.
Shaneus said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31803859&posted=1#post31803859
That's page 31. I advise going back to page 28 and reading from there on.
I'm getting mildly irritated by page 31 (minor quote war) and I cannot believe the sheer audacity of the company nuthuggers posting on there.
Page 31 w/ 50 or 100 p/p?RandomVince said:
PS.
Edit: It's only up to 16, so I'm guessing around page 15 or something. But what the fuck about that guy buying a service? Seriously?!? What a fuck knuckle.
And how did that guy not draw a comparison of theatres to arcades? Wow. That thread is full of fuck (present company excluded).
Edit #whatever:
I saw "presidog" when I first read that. Fuck you, Gaz. You've ruined my internet.Salazar said:
reptilescorpio
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Only way to roll. Much less shit to populate the screen and makes it quicker to scroll up and down. Plus less bandwidth usage.RandomVince said:
Retail don't give a shit about a little title like Xenoblade. Too Japanesey. The blade doesn't have any blood on it for cripes sake! This nice little Mom and Pop hovel can get it to your door step for the agreeable price of $46.markot said:
roosters93
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At a grill'd, they charge 7 bucks for a bottle of white rabbit. This is madness!
reptilescorpio
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164,000 for a niche, Japanese title in the flooded DS market is pretty good I think. Enough to make pack budget on a title of it's scale I would expect.Jintor said:
Ruthless_Barbarian
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The only used games I buy are the ones I want to play once, never again. It's much better buying a used game, playing it over the week and then selling it off for almost the same price, if not more. This works better than renting.
Obviously the publishers/developers don't get any money from this, but that's how things work. If they want to get paid every time someone plays their game, they got another thing coming. WB are just being greedy and pissing off genuine fans. What if someone does not have internet on the console? They will suffer even if they bought a brand new game.
Online pass for a mp-centric game still makes sense. For a sp-only game, pure bollocks.
Obviously the publishers/developers don't get any money from this, but that's how things work. If they want to get paid every time someone plays their game, they got another thing coming. WB are just being greedy and pissing off genuine fans. What if someone does not have internet on the console? They will suffer even if they bought a brand new game.
Online pass for a mp-centric game still makes sense. For a sp-only game, pure bollocks.
DeathJr said:
I only buy used games that are games I was never going to buy anyway.. so it's not hurting anymoe, I just walk into gametraders or what not, and if i see something cheap that interests me I will grab it. otherwise I would have never played it. and fuck, if the games good enough i'll probably buy the sequel or the next game from the developer
reptilescorpio
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That is basically the model accepted by the wider recording industry now. Put the album out for pennies or free. If it is good the consumer will buy some merchandise or come to a show. Starting to get up and running properly and once the middle men are cut out it will be very profitable all round.HolyCheck said:
Unfortunately the other side of the discussion isn't actually discussing. Only bleating their opinion and ignoring any logic put in front of them and avoiding anything resembling a constructive back and forth.RandomVince said:
Ruthless_Barbarian
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reptilescorpio
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Went to Safeway to pick up some more Scotch Coke and found they had Mock Cream Bun 3 packs for $1. Best day ever!
Those are awful >.< they are Mock! MOCK!reptilescorpio said:
And I despiseeeee pre order crap (unless hats for TF2!) and the crap they are doing these days. Its just a pile of shit ontop of a pile of crap thats sitting ontop of a pile of manure.
Want to play as Robin? BUT FROM x! Want Joker? BUY FROM Y BUT BEFORE TUESDAY! Screw you all!
Legend is a good poster. Also, I'm out of beer and it's 9 o'clock :|
Speaking of cream buns, that reminds me of when I was in primary school. Every now and then the canteen used to have a special food day where they would offer snags and hamburgers and sweets instead of the usual stuff. They used to have these matchsticks which were the absolute bomb. Pretty much was a French vanilla slice with a layer of jam in it. So damn good. I want one.
Speaking of cream buns, that reminds me of when I was in primary school. Every now and then the canteen used to have a special food day where they would offer snags and hamburgers and sweets instead of the usual stuff. They used to have these matchsticks which were the absolute bomb. Pretty much was a French vanilla slice with a layer of jam in it. So damn good. I want one.
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