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AusGAF IV - A No Hope, Government - Double the price, region locked and now adults

Kritz

Banned
Today I ate a 5th Avenue candy bar.

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Y'know, I don't trust the americans as far as I can throw them, but they make an alright candy bar.
 

Rahk

Member
You can only have one soldier in BF3 and it uses your Origin account name. Also no easy way to change your account name. That's a potential security risk as people could brute force your password.
 
viciouskillersquirrel said:
I think half the issue for the GREAT works of art is that you need to know what you’re looking at to really see what makes it so special.
I would agree with that. Even watching a short doco or reading an article about these things before you see them would be beneficial for laypeople I think.

Another problem is that the really popular things (like the Sistine Chapel or the Mona Lisa) are so overcrowded you can't possibly appreciate them. I did enjoy Michelangeo's David though, partly because it was a spur of the moment thing to visit it and it was quiet enough when I did see it that I could take my time without a million other screaming people.
 

Agyar

Member
Rahk said:
You can only have one soldier in BF3 and it uses your Origin account name. Also no easy way to change your account name. That's a potential security risk as people could brute force your password.
How is this any different from console users (e.g. Gamertags on Xbox) or even every email provider? Hardly some glaring issue with Origin.
 

jambo

Member
Agyar said:
How is this any different from console users (e.g. Gamertags on Xbox) or even every email provider? Hardly some glaring issue with Origin.

The problem is it isn't competing with them, it's competing with Steam and Steam lets you put whatever you want as your gaming handle.
 

Deeku

Member
so Jint, I just walked into the arts faculty building Y3A for a lecture, and I'm greeted by a tv screen thats says 'video game festival' and 'academic conference'. What's all that about?
 

legend166

Member
Last two pages were very enjoyable.

About the video game emotion thing - I've certainly felt emotions playing video games. But as far as I can recall I've never felt emotions towards or about a video game character,
 

Deeku

Member
That part in Heavy Rain where you need to cut your finger off or something was pretty intense. I think I closed my eyes when I did it
 
In all seriousness, I did feel pretty sad in Fable II when
my dog died.

I felt similar sadness with Fable III, in that part where
I played the game
 

Jintor

Member
commanderdeek said:
so Jint, I just walked into the arts faculty building Y3A for a lecture, and I'm greeted by a tv screen thats says 'video game festival' and 'academic conference'. What's all that about?

Well, there's a videogame festival/academic conference on, oh, this weekend.
 

midonnay

Member
BanShunsaku said:
I'm trying to remember any instances where a video game has made me emotional.

Is horny an emotion?

super metroid....

mother brain is reaming you..... fuck you're going to die...

then the metroid comes out of nowhere and sacrifices itself to save you :(
 

Cohsae

Member
First that random twitter from Idle Thumbs (please cast another pod) and now the GFW Radio guys are talking about doing a show at PAX?
RAD.
 

Bernbaum

Member
commanderdeek said:
That part in Heavy Rain where you need to cut your finger off or something was pretty intense. I think I closed my eyes when I did it
Yeah that. Similar response to the L3/R3 eye popping in God of War III.

Emotional range is limited to excitement or exhilaration (see: Super Mario 64/Galaxy; Arcade racing games; defeating a boss), or frustration. In fact, my enjoyment of a game is dependent on that ratio of excitement:frustation, with the latter component governed by the technical cohesion of the experience. Otherwise, it's a 'scratch that itch' experience for the large number of adeventure/RPG games I play.

Closest thing to genuine upset over a character's demise was with Agro in SotC, but that was more of a 'Damn...'.

Whenever a character dies, the response is almost always 'Wow, can't believe the writers went there".

They're just a bunch of polygons you nerds! Part of the reason why I empathised with the humans and not the stupid hippy Navi in Avatar.
 

guidop

Member
Only thing I remember being sad about was that oblivion quest where you go find out about that champion gladiator's family history or some such
 

Jintor

Member
commanderdeek said:
That's informative. I was expecting you to tell me how awesome it will be and why I should go.

Ask Adam. /me shrugs

I'm angling for a media pass, but not sure, since I know someone else is already going.
 

Aon

Member
BanShunsaku said:
I'm trying to remember any instances where a video game has made me emotional.

I have like all the most fucking generic games that make me tear. MGS3, MGS4, SOTC, Neotokyo, 999, Ever17, Sins of a Solar Empire.

Lasting shame xD
 

Dead Man

Member
legend166 said:
Last two pages were very enjoyable.

About the video game emotion thing - I've certainly felt emotions playing video games. But as far as I can recall I've never felt emotions towards or about a video game character,
Yeah. I have had occasions where the music gets me, I'm a sucker for good music. But never really a particular character. Maybe the end of RDR. That was pretty emotional. But it may have just been the music. ;)
 

Kritz

Banned
Aon said:
I have like all the most fucking generic games that make me tear. MGS3, MGS4, SOTC, Neotokyo, 999, Ever17, Sins of a Solar Empire.

Lasting shame xD

The time when a monkey killed my only miner dwarf was pretty hard on me. Caused the entire fortress to starve to death because I wasn't ready to face the immigrant waves. :(

Also one time Orbi burned down my fucking house.

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Dead Man

Member
Choice names year's most Shonky products
http://abc.com.au/news/2011-10-25/2011-shonky-awards/3599746

Consumer watchdog Choice has named and shamed the worst offenders in goods and services in its annual Shonky awards.

Eight lemons were acknowledged as the worst in retail for 2011, including the Go 4 Green electricity saving device that does not work, a bejewelled babies dummy found to be a choking hazard, and the Chery J1 car with roof racks that are only for show.

Weight-loss products also featured highly. SensaSlim got a lemon for its so-called slimming tongue spray, while Peachy Pink Shapewear was also highlighted as a shonk over claims its underwear - infused in green tea, peach and caffeine - helped fight cellulite.

A smartphone app that has helped children rack up bills of hundreds of dollars is another standout among the winners.

A group Shonky also went to the Australian insurance industry for leaving tens of thousands of people high and dry after this year's disaster season.

The awards are presented by Choice to products and services it deems dodgy, deceitful or dangerous.

Choice campaigns director Christopher Zinn says his favourite among the eight products singled out this year is the Smurf Village smartphone app game.

"This is a free app that you can download, but it has what's called in-app purchases," he said.
Smurfs' village app from Choice's 2011 Shonky Awards. Photo: Smurfs' village app from Choice's 2011 Shonky Awards. (Supplied: Choice)

"We've had parents whose kids have rung up bills of $800, $900 buying Smurfberries to play the game.

"Now there are warnings there, but you know what, four, five-year-olds don't really know what warnings are. They certainly don't care about mum's or dad's money.

"And one would have to ask why any game aimed at kids, be it Smurfs or otherwise, could require you to spend $110 on a wagonload of Smurfberries, which of course are just digital bits of fluff anyway.

"People are really being caught out by this one. We think it's shonky to abuse the licence of a character like a Smurf to get kids to rob their own parents, if you like."
Insurance revenge

Mr Zinn says there was a broad range of consumer detriment linked to the insurance industry in the wake of natural disasters in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria this year.

"The first one, of course, was that the people thought they were covered for floods but, aha, look on page 23 of the policy and they weren't covered for what they considered a flood but for what the insurance company considered a flood. And sometimes it was completely different," he said.

"The other one was refusal to accept claims. Other ones were English language which was abused and indecipherable. We actually had a Legal Aid [lawyer] in Queensland who was unable to understand the policies despite reading them and re-reading them."

Mr Zinn says a review of disaster insurance, due to be released soon, will hopefully rein in some of the abuses.

"There's also calls for insurance to be included in the unfair contracts legislation," he said.

"We think that's about time. What happened around floods with insurance really has been an appalling process.

"Hopefully the Shonky, in a small way, will be a little bit of a sense of revenge for all of those who felt very unfairly treated by their insurance company."

Mr Zinn says he does not feel bad labelling the whole industry as shonky.

"There were some exceptions. I mean Suncorp did have a generous definition of floods, and the RACV (Royal Automobile Club of Victoria) actually also did make ex-gratia payments in Victoria," he said.

"But I'm afraid the whole insurance industry has been really wanting.

"I'm afraid the whole industry, we don't like giving industry-wide ones, but the whole industry is in need of a massive reality check and this is one small part of it."

Cosmetic roof racks

Mr Zinn says the cosmetic roof racks on the Chery J1 car are hilarious, but also a safety issue.

"Chinese products, they can be very good, they can be very well priced. And there's a Chinese hatchback called the Chery J1, $12,000, it's the cheapest on the market," he said.

"It doesn't rate well in terms of the crash tests, but it actually has some roof racks.

"Very handy for putting a board on to go to the surf or some skis to go to the snow, except if you look at a sticker on the inside of the roof rails, it says 'Caution, do not use roof rails. For cosmetic purposes only'.


"Essentially if you put anything on these roof rails and drove down the road you'd find the contents and the rails scattered behind you.

"So I mean, apart from being hilarious, there is a product safety issue here."
Kindergarten science

Among the eight awards, two were related to weight-loss or body-shaping products.

Mr Zinn says he expects to see more and more of these products receiving shonky awards in the future.

"It's going to get more and more," he said.

"The obesity crisis such as what it is, there are no end of shonks and charlatans and spruikers who will say that they can save you weight.

"One of them is to do with shape wear, which actually is more like a corset in the old-fashioned language.

"Nothing exactly wrong with that except they claim all sorts of scientific reasons why infusions of peaches and green tea and caffeine actually in the fabric helps you lose weight.

"There's about as much science in that as there is in a kindergarten class.

"The other issue here is a product people might have heard called SensaSlim, which is a spray you put on your tongue said to lose weight as you sleep.

"It's been subject to ACCC (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission) action. They tried to take action against our representatives legally, to shut down the Therapeutic Goods Association who are meant to be the regulators in this area. It's been a whole process of shonkydom.

"And I'm afraid weight loss is something that we're going to have to keep an increasing eye on because everyone' s trying to come up with products.

"You can pay big money to lose big weight, but unfortunately the weight loss doesn't seem to happen."

They are all pretty bad, but what the fuck at cosmetic roof racks.
 

Aon

Member
commanderdeek said:
I'm interested to know as well because I only ever played skirmish matches.

Naa it was just a skirmish match. It was all playing sad music and I was playing the Vasari. So their capital ships, when you're firing at a planet essentially just like laser in this one spot and let the various cities on the planet rotate into the this ridiculous laser. Got me thinking what that would be like on the surface; scientists calculating the exact time until the your city rotates into the laser, staying glued to the news and trying to care when you see horrible fucking shit happening to city after city. "Did you see what happened to San Fran? All those bodies floating beneath the Golden Gate?" "Yeap, gonna hit Vegas in around ten minutes." "Damn."

Essentially how weird it would be to see the world burn around you on a tight schedule. As a person I do have a predilection to tearing up at weird ideas like that ;__;
 

Cohsae

Member
Aon said:
Naa it was just a skirmish match. It was all playing sad music and I was playing the Vasari. So their capital ships, when you're firing at a planet essentially just like laser in this one spot and let the various cities on the planet rotate into the this ridiculous laser. Got me thinking what that would be like on the surface; scientists calculating the exact time until the your city rotates into the laser, staying glued to the news and trying to care when you see horrible fucking shit happening to city after city. "Did you see what happened to San Fran? All those bodies floating beneath the Golden Gate?" "Yeap, gonna hit Vegas in around ten minutes." "Damn."

Essentially how weird it would be to see the world burn around you on a tight schedule. As a person I do have a prediction to tearing up at weird ideas like that ;__;
Don't play Defcon. I'd fear for your safety.
 

Choc

Banned
commanderdeek said:
That part in Heavy Rain where you need to cut your finger off or something was pretty intense. I think I closed my eyes when I did it

ok yes that got me as well

that wa sfucking intense
 

Yagharek

Member
Shaneus said:

Just a stupid boss encounter in Arkham City.

Major spoiler (probably about mid-game) and about the 5th boss at a guess.

Why am I fighting a fucking sandcastle?

Oh and if the discussion is about "emotional effects" from games there is only one I can name with a straight face. The storybook sections in Mario Galaxy touched a raw nerve. I'd had a few pets die as I was playing the game (over the course of a fortnight) and it touched a raw nerve.
 

Choc

Banned
the scene where you watch the father not care about his son drowning in heavy rain is so bad that i can't watch it again

when i replay the game i skip it

its fucking horrendous
 

Shaneus

Member
RandomVince said:
Just a stupid boss encounter in Arkham City.

Major spoiler (probably about mid-game) and about the 5th boss at a guess.

Why am I fighting a fucking sandcastle?

Oh and if the discussion is about "emotional effects" from games there is only one I can name with a straight face. The storybook sections in Mario Galaxy touched a raw nerve. I'd had a few pets die as I was playing the game (over the course of a fortnight) and it touched a raw nerve.
I wouldn't have reached that point anyway, I've barely played AA :/


Salazar said:
Wow. Graphic. Surprised they're allowed to print that amount of detail in the press. But it sounds like the kid was doing it not (only) because he was nuts, but because he felt he was obligated to due to his lineage. Definitely needs to have his head read and shut away for a long fucking time, but his reasons for doing the crime (according to that article) are almost sad.
 

Yagharek

Member
I couldnt take heavy rain seriously. The story was full of non-sequitur gibberish and deliberately misleading cuts that weren't even accurately termed "red herrings". I would rather be submitted to a lie detector test by Peter Molyneaux than take a David Cage "game" seriously again. :p


Shaneus said:
I wouldn't have reached that point anyway, I've barely played AA :/


AA is the superior game so far compared to AC. Asylum is so much more focussed and coherent a world.
 

Fredescu

Member
Aon said:
Essentially how weird it would be to see the world burn around you on a tight schedule. As a person I do have a predilection to tearing up at weird ideas like that ;__;
I wouldn't describe that as generic :p
 
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