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A More Normal Bird

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http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...rriage/7120460

Seriously do they not get why they were doing the plebiscite?
Maybe they legit believed they were the silent minority, that the shy conservative effect was responsible for all those polls showing nationwide support for marriage equality and the plebiscite was just to clear up the matter. After all, they're the parties of responsible government, so there's no way they'd have an expensive national vote just to attempt to defuse an issue and give themselves a convenient political out.
 

Rubixcuba

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Albo announced he'll stand in Grayndler today for upcoming election. Shorten also released first election year policy, pledging to fully fund the Gonski school reforms. A good day.
 

danm999

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Maybe they legit believed they were the silent minority, that the shy conservative effect was responsible for all those polls showing nationwide support for marriage equality and the plebiscite was just to clear up the matter. After all, they're the parties of responsible government, so there's no way they'd have an expensive national vote just to attempt to defuse an issue and give themselves a convenient political out.

Maybe. I've never seen a group of people so wilfully and gleefully destroy the political cover two Prime Ministers went to great ends to give them.
 
If their declaration of ignoring the outcome of an expensive plebiscite came after the election it'd be one thing, but in the election year before it? The stupidity is astounding. Why did they think that would go over well with the public or be ignored by Labor?

Also, the arrogance of the slagging off of parliamentarians who are actually consulting their electorates is mind-boggling. Your role isn't to get elected and do whatever the hell you want, you're elected to represent your constituents and their needs. Fucking hell.

The Greens will run with it, but nobody pays attention to them, and Labor under Shorten going on the offensive? Not sure I'd recognise what that would even look like. Hopefully I'm just being a pessimistic old bastard and they sink the boot in properly and get some movement on the issue as well as hammering the Libs over it.

Labor hasn't really gone on the attack yet due to Turnbull's honeymoon period, and they tried with the whole Cayman Islands thing only to back on when they realized it was wasn't working, partly because it was too early in Turnbull's honeymoon period, and the cayman thing wasn't really of much substance anyway.
 
Albo on Abbott's speech in the USA.

Labor frontbencher Anthony Albanese also defended Mr Abbott's address.

"Tony Abbott can talk to whichever group of right wing nut jobs in the United States he likes, whichever one because there's lots of them as we're seeing at the moment with the right wing of politics in the US," he told the Nine Network.
 

Yagharek

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Maybe they legit believed they were the silent minority, that the shy conservative effect was responsible for all those polls showing nationwide support for marriage equality and the plebiscite was just to clear up the matter. After all, they're the parties of responsible government, so there's no way they'd have an expensive national vote just to attempt to defuse an issue and give themselves a convenient political out.

Whats with the guest tag?
 

Arksy

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Means his account has been deleted. You see it on GAF from time to time. Posts are supposed to remain when an account has been deleted. We won't have any confirmation one way or another unless a mod says something.

I will miss our banter. :(
 

Yagharek

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Sorry I should have been clearer. I know his account is nuked, not banned I was hoping one of you regulars may have known if it were something that was able to be mentioned without violating their privacy.
 

wonzo

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Dryk

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jambo

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http://www.smh.com.au/environment/c...-jobs-axe-scientists-say-20160203-gml7jy.html

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Fears that some of Australia's most important climate research institutions will be gutted by the Turnbull government have been realised with deep job cuts for scientists to be announced to staff later today.

Fairfax Media has learnt that as many as 110 positions in the Oceans and Atmosphere division will go, with a similarly sharp reduction in the Land and Water division.

"Climate will be all gone, basically," said one senior scientist, before the announcement. "We understand both the Prime Minister [Malcolm Turnbull] and the [Science] Minister [Christopher Pyne] have signed off on the cuts."

Another senior scientist, aware of the planned announcement, said staff would be shocked by the news that basic climate science including much of the monitoring of changes in the southern hemisphere would be gutted.

Take that, Science!
 
I know this is politics but if you live in Sydney or live in Melbourne and want to gloat, this is a must read.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/would-last-person-sydney-please-turn-lights-out-matt-barrie

I'm currently in Brooklyn after having being away for almost 7 years and the number of cool things that got installed in new york and brooklyn over that time are awesome. The brooklyn waterfront, the food trucks the citibank bike scheme, the high line, the list goes on and on.

During that same period sydney has GONE BACKWARDS.
 

Jintor

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oh yeah, i heard they stopped peopple selling kebabs or something? that sounds real dumb

/edit jesus I move away for two years and they decimate sydney. What the fark.
 

Dryk

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I don't know what to hate more in that article. Sydney falling apart or the author comparing regulation to the Taliban.
 

Jintor

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personally i hate the words 'nanny state' since it's so often used by assholes who don't like the entire concept of rule of law at all and want to be free to infringe the freedoms of others. But this seems a bit much
 

bomma_man

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personally i hate the words 'nanny state' since it's so often used by assholes who don't like the entire concept of rule of law at all and want to be free to infringe the freedoms of others. But this seems a bit much

Sure, but puritans are the greater evil.
 

danm999

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Article is a bit heavy on hyperbole but rather spot on that its turning Sydney into a boring vapid wasteland so a bunch of boomers can feel good.

Made Newtown shitter as well since you now get the idiots that would have stayed at the Cross coming over.
 

legend166

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Meh, less people getting drunk throwing punches.

Yeah it goes against my political philosophy, but world's smallest violin and all that.
 

D.Lo

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As someone completely uninterested in the club scene, the problem for me is Newtown is now full of fully sick bros on Saturday night.

The casino exemptions are fucked up too though, for absolutely no reason other than being shills for Packer etc the lockout zone ends exactly on their doorstep.
 

danm999

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As someone completely uninterested in the club scene, the problem for me is Newtown is now full of fully sick bros on Saturday night.

Fucking A.

Lots of drunk idiots looking to fight on King St now more than ever. Particularly bad on Australia Day when all the idiots with Southern Cross tattoos materialised.
 

bomma_man

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I dunno, targeting clubs and bars indescriminately instead of the mega club shitholes that are actually the problem seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Live music and drinking culture has value, and it's not like Melbourne is a mad max style wasteland after dark.

What harm was a place like Goodgod Smallclub causing that justified killing it?

Edit: to be fair, the night life in sydney has always been shit
 

D.Lo

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Part of the reason it's been shit is that property is king. Both parties have their mouths firmly attached to the nether regions of anyone in a property related industry.

So many music venues have shut because yuppies moved in next to a music venue then complained there was noise at a music venue.
 

hidys

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Apparently Lateline has a panel on whether or not Donald Trump should be banned from entering Australia.

I'm not watching it because the idea of people discussing such an asinine topic makes me want to bash my head against a wall until I'm fucking dead.
 
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