Avengers & X-Men: AXIS (OT) The Red Onslaught

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I get all that and the idea of "The Hulk's hulk" isn't automatically bad, but when Kluh starts yelling about the size of his dumps I start to wonder if Remender is fucking with us.

Kluh just sounds like an angry teenager at this point.
 
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They could have simply wrote this in a blurb inside the books front cover.

still wouldn't help very much. Axis doesn't fit in with anything going on in Avengers, 8 month time skip or no.

seems sort of like a random "filler" event they're shoehorning in before the whole time runs out business.
 
There moral alignments were flipped.

This.

Plus the fact that the one X-Man who believed in X-Men/Avengers joining forces, Havok, has seen a lot of fucked up shit and was close to a nervous breakdown BEFORE this. Which... is Havok a bad guy? He's the only one who gives a shit that Wasp is being power-sucked.
 
Only a few of them. But the rest of them sat patiently listening as Apocalypse told them that mutants were going to take over the world, lol. It was a really stupid scene.

No. All the X-men were. Red Onslaught had already captured the heroes by the time the villains saved them. Remember? Three months had passed. Spidey, Nova, Nomad and Old Cap were some of the few uncaptured.
 
Is there a thread about that whole Marvel "Everything ends" business? Because I couldn't find one :/
 
Eh, for me I like the event because ONCE AGAIN Scarlet Witch does a half-assed spell and fucks up everything. After years of 'she's not to blame' she pisses everything up once again.

Can't say it was 100% her fault. The intent was for scarlet witch and strange to cast it. Strange got mind controlled and ran off to god knows where.

Doom stepped in as pinch hitter at the last minute, and I can't really see that being a suitable replacement.
 
Can't say it was 100% her fault. The intent was for scarlet witch and strange to cast it. Strange got mind controlled and ran off to god knows where.

Doom stepped in as pinch hitter at the last minute, and I can't really see that being a suitable replacement.

I'd rather have Doom do a spell than Scarlet Witch.

At least when Doom's involved, he's trying to achieve his objective. Scarlet Witch is all 'LOL, INVERSION' and doesn't stop to think that maybe they should take Onslaught Skull to an Astral Plane first?
 
because the concept is dumb; "what if heroes were villains and villains were heroes!!" and the writing is so hokey and predictable that it's pretty embarrassing.
 
The thing that is confusing is that Kluh already existed in the mainline marvel universe as a seperate entity, a clone of Hulk that was supposed to be superior.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Kluh_%28Earth-616%29

Do they not check this stuff before they write?

Also is there a list anywhere of all of the characters that got their moral axis inverted?
 
Yeah with how big and great are capitalized seems Remender is saying this char sucks. Plus he has dubass be part of the reason this happened cause he interrupted the first casting and then when it did cast Kid Omega passed out causing it to affect everyone. Not to mention how many times he already had Sam get freaking thrown and punched.
 
What if he's saying it sarcastically.

Yeah with how big and great are capitalized seems Remender is saying this char sucks. Plus he has dubass be part of the reason this happened cause he interrupted the first casting and then when it did cast Kid Omega passed out causing it to affect everyone. Not to mention how many times he already had Sam get freaking thrown and punched.

I'll accept it.

In fact it would be awesome if in every crossover that has people forced to use Sam, if they'd just spend the whole time having him get owned over and over. Yea that'd be swell.
 
I'm pretty excited to continue Hobgoblin and Carnage. Not going to bother reading anything else any further.
 
If you're lying, I'm coming for ya!

Of course he's lying. There are three constants in life. Death, Taxes, and AXIS being hot garbage.

Why is teen jean inverted? when did this happen? the O5 were in the ultimate universe when genosha happened, or if they weren't they never appeared on the island.

Avengers world 15 is the best part of the series so far, by the way.
 
It really is hot garbage, sorry BenjaminBirdie.

Even with the core avengers roster MIA or eeeeeeeeeeevil now, The X-men rolling into manhattan and just taking it stretches the bounds of plausibility.

There has to be a superhero every 1000 feet in new york. and not a sentinel to be seen!
 
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