Lord Frieza
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Well, I don't have any contacts in Nashville, but I can search around. There might be a Organizing Protests for Dummies
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Axios: Trump is pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal
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Well, I don't have any contacts in Nashville, but I can search around. There might be a Organizing Protests for Dummies
Does Nashville have a Facebook presence? Do you have contacts elsewhere in the US to orchestrate something. I know it seems futile but we also agree that doing nothing is also no option
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/869890727861465088
Another decision that Ivanka tries to influence and nothing will happen.
You'd really think even seeing all this immediate backlash from all different sides would make him want to stick with it. It'd be an easy win for him and the pundits would be talking about how this is the day Trump became president.
Does it matter. We've just shown ourselves as unreliable.
Buba Big Guns
Banned
Couldn't give less of a fuck about Trump, but he is actively fucking over the rest of the world now.
Palette Swap
Member
This reads like HAIL HYDRA.
Master Yoshi
Member
I'm going to hug my children extra tight tonight...
acheron_xl
Member
Steve Doocy isn't talking about it, so Trump don't give a fuck.
Dammit, America really fucked up big time. And now we'll all have to suffer the consequences.
I hope every country in the Paris agreement will put an eco-tax on all American products as punishment, we can't stand the shit pulled by the GOP anymore. Our planet's worth more than that.
I hope every country in the Paris agreement will put an eco-tax on all American products as punishment, we can't stand the shit pulled by the GOP anymore. Our planet's worth more than that.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I doubt there would be much difference. Most people who voted for him are ignorant, uneducated, or just don't give a fuck about anything but themselves.
LifEndz
Member
Agreed. Our allies need to do something to make him regret this decision.
UnObtainium17
Member
This is worse than what house of cards can come up with.
"Kids, let me tell you the tale about how the voting minority of our country set up a cascade of events that lead to our planets destruction..."
"Kids, let me tell you the tale about how the voting minority of our country set up a cascade of events that lead to our planets destruction..."
Fuck Donald Trump, fuck the USA, fuck the Republicans, fuck everyone who hasn't so far demonstrated in the streets against this fuckwit, fuck every single US citizen who voted for him, fuck every single US citizen who voted third party, fuck every single US citizen who didn't vote at all. Every one who is part of these groups is at fault for this and bears responsibility that we now live in an infinitely more unstable, dangerous world that is now even more probable to be destroyed than it already was. Sorry, I'm angry. And how in the fuck is it possible that there aren't riots in the streets in the US? How?
Hopefully Merken & Macron will make the US REALLY feel the consequences for this. Sanctions, stopped trade deals, whatever. All red lines have been crossed.
Hopefully Merken & Macron will make the US REALLY feel the consequences for this. Sanctions, stopped trade deals, whatever. All red lines have been crossed.
Grizzle_Dat
Banned
Not really, there is a reason why this was an agreement and not a treaty. No one should be surprised when unilateral decisions not ratified by congress are reversed and because it is not a "treaty" it has no teeth and was nothing but a showpiece .
LegendofJoe
Member
It's time for Europe, China, India, Japan, Korea, and Brazil to impose sanctions on the US. Target the fossil fuel industry specifically.
Actually, I fear that this is a major motivation for this dick move, aka creating or bringing back jobs for his target demographic.
TumblingHippo
Member
At some point America just needs to be treated as an enemy to the free world and punished in as many ways possible (financially, politically, etc.) until its people understand the consequences of their choices (or lack thereof).
Well, of course it is. The problem is withdrawing from the Paris deal won't restore those jobs at all. It's not as if the decline of the coal industry started a year and a half ago.
Pandora012
Member
The interesting thing is, most of the energy companies in the US are for the Paris deal.
Have people tried asking Trump 11 times to stay with the deal?
I know that, everybody with a sane mind knows that. Not so sure about the Trump supporters, though.
Pandora012
Member
If he does this how long would it take to implement? Like long enough for a new president to stop it?
Grizzle_Dat
Banned
Its not about jobs its about $$$.
"The agreement requires rich nations to maintain a $100bn a year funding pledge " to help poorer nations .
yeah well not all of us wanted this piece of shit so get out of here with this shit.
Tweeted today, AFTER this story broke? ...I actually hope that this story was "fake leaked," and that he doesn't actually pull out, and rails on the fake news for printing lies. In this case...I'd take it.
Kinda doubt that's the case, though.
Skinny Pete
Banned
Fuck you man. I didn't vote for this piece of shit.
LegendofJoe
Member
They still failed to convince him so sanctions are fair game. Tax every fossil fuel dollar that leaves the US. Make American coal, oil, and gas as uncompetitive as possible.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Some of us really REALLY fucking tried to stop this. I've been out nearly every other weekend at least protesting and marching for something that has been directly fucked because of this administration. Our country is in the stranglehold of not only the Right/Fox News propaganda machine, but apathy. People throwing up their hands and not giving a shit to the detriment of all.
All I can hope for is that Trump is excised from office as quickly as possible, whether it be for Russia or being voted out but I'm still terrified over the ever growing evil that is the right in our country.
So really just blame the shameful people in Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania...
So, the pledges from the Paris agreement would lead to a temperature increase of around 3.3°C. The american pledges would mean a reduction with 0.1 to 0.3°C. So without the US we could get 3.6°C ... Either way that's still more than the "well below 2°C" pledge. So is this so much more disastrous for the world?
On the other side, it is ofcourse an open door for other countries to slow down their efforts, which could only make it worse. But maybe this could be an incentive to the rest of the world to up the efforts and really reach the 2°C mark?
Lastly, for the US'ers claiming that the states and cities are doing much more even without you federal government: we've seen Trump pulling tricks nobody would've allowed before, what would keep him from forcing states and cities to use coal or put taxes on green technology while subsidizing his 'clean coal'? I know there is something in your constitution that doesn't allow the federal government to intervene with the states or something like that, but again ... he has done something crazy things already (+ 33 governors are R, right?).
On the other side, it is ofcourse an open door for other countries to slow down their efforts, which could only make it worse. But maybe this could be an incentive to the rest of the world to up the efforts and really reach the 2°C mark?
Lastly, for the US'ers claiming that the states and cities are doing much more even without you federal government: we've seen Trump pulling tricks nobody would've allowed before, what would keep him from forcing states and cities to use coal or put taxes on green technology while subsidizing his 'clean coal'? I know there is something in your constitution that doesn't allow the federal government to intervene with the states or something like that, but again ... he has done something crazy things already (+ 33 governors are R, right?).
Pandora012
Member
His MO is to make every failure seem like a win. Which would then keep the people that voted him happy.
Well he's all about states rights, only when it's not against him. In reality, the states would just sue the government, and lock it up in the courts like the travel ban. Besides he tried and failed to do this with sanctuary cities. Additionally, Just because you gave a R republican doesn't mean they are batshit crazy. I'd say 90% are crazy the other moderates.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Because the entire point of the Paris agreement was "ramping up" pledges. Paris was the start of fixing our issues. It's pointless to go "well current pledges don't fix the issue" because that was one of the key points of the negotiations.
Lord Frieza
Member
I'm sure they do, but I'm not sure what kind of presence protests groups have. The last big protest I remember is a BLM group marching during Ferguson. I don't have any real protest contacts, no. I know people in various states, but none of them are active in protesting that I am aware of. I can look into stuff like that, though, Nashville is a fairly progessive city, I think, so there may be more groups out.
But, I mean, as I said I don't feel like I do nothing. I vote in all elections, and I donate to groups that are doing real work to battle the GOP and this administration in courts. I think that is important.
Yeah, it's a big cultural divide, I feel, with Europeans, especially those who have never been in the States. They have a mindset that you can just jump in the car and go anywhere and back within a day's time. It's just not the reality for a large part of America, especially going State-to-State.
It's not just a simple on and off switch where if you're above 2 degrees, you're fucked. There are degrees of fucked here.