RiskyChris
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omg rite said:
I LOOKED AT THE VIDEO
Will people stop linking it in response? It looks nothing like the old B-K platforming.
IT STILL LOOKS LIKE FUN, and I will buy it day 1 assuming no gameplay faults.
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I LOOKED AT THE VIDEO
Will people stop linking it in response? It looks nothing like the old B-K platforming.
IT STILL LOOKS LIKE FUN, and I will buy it day 1 assuming no gameplay faults.
Except that the actual gameplay in those worlds was very different. You're the revisionist here.RiskyChris said:
No, people will not stop proving you wrong when you change your vague and meaningless opinions in an attempt to nay-say this game. First it wasn't a platformer, then it was but it needs a superpowered flying bear Banjo at all times, then it wasn't a platformer again. Make up your mind, it makes it look like you have no actual opinion, but are just trying to find a rationalization for your criticism.RiskyChris said:
Opus Angelorum
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HK-47 said:
Should have put him in a Bee suit, right?
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
Why are people jizzing over this new video? It doesn't prove "the Banjo haters" wrong, it has about the first ten seconds with Banjo on foot, pretty much replicating what we had seen in the screenshots and then back to customizing vehicles and then basically those vehicles running into things. Woop-de-fucking-do.
rollingstart
Banned
I am not caught up on this entire debate raging on, but why are people using the kotaku video as some kind of defense to show it is a platformer? There is a few seconds of Banjo climbing a pole and balancing on a rope. I don't see how that backs up whatever point you guys are hoping to make.
RiskyChris
Banned
Crushed said:
B-K you tried to get
Mario solved puzzles with more platforming than B-K, but they were both very similar in their approach.
Steroyd said:
Don't turn too much for you might get a bit dizzy and I don't want you to feel dizzy.
I was talking about this -
encountering the platform, searching for something to make your vehicle fly, building the vehicle and finally doing this:
- and how I consider being a bit creative more exciting then to ask bottles to teach me how to use red feathers. Personal preferences you know?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
batbeg said:Icebreezy is a much nicer person than me and gifed it though:
Ooooh.
Fucking hell, don't just sit there!
YOU'RE GOING TO GET LAPPED!!
I think it'll probably turn out to be fun, but I'm quite disappointed. Super Mario Galaxy was yet 'another platformer'. It stayed within the same genre and turned out to be one of the greatest games ever made. BK3's new direction is much more drastic than, for example, throwing a water pack on Mario and telling him to go spray sludge like in Sunshine. This is straddling genres, and even if the end product is fun, it's not what a lot of the fans wanted. Why would they do that? They should have done the vehicular thing to another franchise. But I'm not totally closing my mind to it if it ends up being really fun and worth playing.
RiskyChris
Banned
BenjaminBirdie said:
There are people trying to have an actual discussion, but if we want to perpetuate "LOL DONT U SEE A RACER" then we can.
CowboyAstronaut
Banned
the disgruntled gamer said:
I agree 110%
They really aren't fooling anybody.
There are quite a few people in here that aren't actually interested in this game and would be hating on it this very moment if it was revealed to be a next gen looking version of the same exact game we use to play on the N64.
They would say how it's doing nothing to move the genre forward and it's a sign of how far Rare has fallen and all this other crap.
Kazooie doesn't have his abilities so what? I understand the nostalgia that some REAL banjo fans may have about him not having his abilities, but we got something more in exchange. We still have a platformer here or do you guys not notice Banjo jumping and climbing onto things or balancing to cross tight ropes?
This time we don't just have normal platforming we have vehicle-based platforming which can basically change the game depending on how you choose to build the vehicle. Depending on the base abilities that Rare decides to give Banjo himself, this could end up being a far more in depth style of platformer than the previous Banjo games ever were.
lol I'm not going to lie Benjamin's comment was pretty fucking hilarious :lol
The "Don't sit there your about to be lapped" comment nearly got me choking on what i was drinking here.
All in all, we all know this looks different, but people can't be so afraid of change. This game looks very fun and interesting. To condemn Rare already as if they've ruined the Banjo franchise is like saying they need not show the rest of the game in action because we've already seen the game in it's entirety.
Agent Icebeezy said:Instead of gaining new moves, you create the vehicles yourself to be the new moves. Only your imagination holds you back.
There are cool implementations to be explored here such as this.
OMFG, vehicles and platforming in harmony!
You wouldn't think that by the way some people are bitching in this thread.
Guybrush Threepwood said:
No, not really, where are the multitude of carefully designed platforms in the vehicles sections that the player has to plot through?
BenjaminBirdie
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RiskyChris said:
I've been having an actual discussion about this all day, mostly in the other thread.
TrueReligion
Banned
This is still classified as a platformer, right?
Opus Angelorum
Member
BenjaminBirdie said:
:lol
GitarooMan
Member
BK was made great by the open environments and the amazing variety of objectives, which seems to still be here. Do people recall that most of the end of that game involved little platforming yet is still fondly remembered?
I guess I'm just a little surprised that people are so adverse to the idea of another BK with open 3D environments where you complete a variety of objectives through maneuvering vehicles instead of walking around. Amazes me that people are so negative about a game that really captures the core
Not surprising though on NeoGAF where for most Rare is the devil and Nintendo rises to heaven.
I guess I'm just a little surprised that people are so adverse to the idea of another BK with open 3D environments where you complete a variety of objectives through maneuvering vehicles instead of walking around. Amazes me that people are so negative about a game that really captures the core
Not surprising though on NeoGAF where for most Rare is the devil and Nintendo rises to heaven.
:lol The people whining about the whiners in this thread really have no one to blame but themselves for giving them so much attention. Move on already. This is the first real reveal. How about not taking people to task for not instantly falling in love with the limited preview they've gotten of the game? Plenty of time to learn more and evolve perceptions.
Also, everyone one of the videos that's supposedly better than the original trailer at conveying what the game is about, are not that. They're all basically remixes of mostly the same footage from the original trailer.
*Patiently waiting for the BK defense force to stop letting the lunatics run the asylum*
Also, everyone one of the videos that's supposedly better than the original trailer at conveying what the game is about, are not that. They're all basically remixes of mostly the same footage from the original trailer.
*Patiently waiting for the BK defense force to stop letting the lunatics run the asylum*
RiskyChris
Banned
B-K is clearly nothing like Mario 64 Edit: First egg
inertiatic
Member
Honestly speaking, I get both sides of this discussion.
Some people wanted a true platformer, and this looks like it has a huge emphasis on vehicles.
Then again, we're not sure on what does this emphasis translate into the game. Is it like 98% of the time on vehicles? Not sure.
Either way, the vehicle customization looks great. The online will probably be great fun, particularly the football game.
The game does look great, nevertheless, and I'm open to change, so the whole vehicle thing might turn out great fun (and I trust Rare on this).
Some people wanted a true platformer, and this looks like it has a huge emphasis on vehicles.
Then again, we're not sure on what does this emphasis translate into the game. Is it like 98% of the time on vehicles? Not sure.
Either way, the vehicle customization looks great. The online will probably be great fun, particularly the football game.
The game does look great, nevertheless, and I'm open to change, so the whole vehicle thing might turn out great fun (and I trust Rare on this).
I did. I wanna make myself clear. I dont doubt rares ability to make a cool interesting game here. But this STILL doesnt look like Banjo Kazooie to me. Its more like an open ended- vehicle combat- puzzle hybrid. And the downside to me is that even IF there is more plataforming i see myself putting up with all this other gameplay elements and garage building (ugh) just to get to it. This is an initial rection and i hope im proven wrong and end up loving the product, but as of now im disappointed. As neat as that looks.
Agent Icebeezy said:
Seriously though, the game looks to be really fun after checking out the Kotaku video. That and custom building your own vehicle without too many restrictions is always cool.
Really hoping the game has great music though. I STILL cant get this song out of my head whenever I see the words Banjo Kazooie:
The best beach/seaside stage music this side of Plok's beach stage, Ristar's Planet Undertow, and the various Mario Kart beach stage themes
Also people dont be blockheads. NO Rare made platformer has ever been straight up pure platforming since the N64 days. EVER.
TrueReligion said:
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3167777&p=4
1up said:
It seems to be many things.
MisterHero
Super Member
and now for a non-platformer-related criticism:
I wasn't very impressed with the 'physics-demonstration'. I honestly look forward to the vehicle-creation, but the physics like 'crashing' into the tree or the 'coconut cart' didn't look that fun.
Hopefully there will be more gameplay videos very soon. And with some enemies.
I wasn't very impressed with the 'physics-demonstration'. I honestly look forward to the vehicle-creation, but the physics like 'crashing' into the tree or the 'coconut cart' didn't look that fun.
Hopefully there will be more gameplay videos very soon. And with some enemies.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Iam Canadian said:
Wow, this sums me up completely! The new video is great! much better than the first one (Though I still absolutely hate the new Banjo design!)
RiskyChris
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Nicktals said:
This opinion is not tolerated.
Crushed said:
What is your problem? The first egg is a clear example of a complicated platforming situation that is akin to a platforming segment of Mario 64. THE FIRST EGG. Not the stop n swap, jesus.