The Lamonster
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Finish the story before trying to 100% everything else.
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Batman: Arkham Knight |OT| Protect Gotham Racing
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the_batman
Banned
have you tried driving in first person mode?
AC is the superior game by the simple virtue that in less than 30 minutes into NG+ you can promptly dismantle all his puzzles one after the other and punch the Riddler's teeth out.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Hence why Ive been comparing Arkham Knight to Arkham City. Thus, saying that freeflow explosive gel + instant takedown is insanely overpowered is easily abuseable is grossly inaccurate given how difficult it is to actually pull that off.
Spring-Loaded
Member
It is in AO, which is what I was referring to when I mentioned it. :
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
First person mode was a lifesaver for me during those sequences. In 3rd person driving I had a VERY hard time controlling the car when it went up walls and tunnels, but once I started driving in 1st person it became so much easier.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yeah, combine that with the electric gloves which gives 3X and its so easy to pull off.
Kevin Shields
Member
Does anyone else love the batclaw takedown ? I use that at every freakibg chance I can...
Spring-Loaded
Member
This too seems odd to me. Then again, I never ran into a wall (lol) with Batmobile segments.
I like it, though I wish it would only do the crazy camera angle if it was a final move in a fight. Maybe. Or maybe I like it as is.
RedAssedApe
Banned
what speaker settings are headphone users using?
i have a pair of fidelio x2s connected to a tb dss for 5.1 dolby headphone.
pro headphones, headphones, normal speakers, larger speakers?
i have a pair of fidelio x2s connected to a tb dss for 5.1 dolby headphone.
pro headphones, headphones, normal speakers, larger speakers?
the_batman
Banned
I liked it for the most part, but these past few hours have just been too full of really frustrating experiences involving the Batmobile. Every now and then is great, but it just became way too much of a focal point as the game went on.
I was mostly just kidding though.
Aerial attack as a finisher cam is the best move anyway. Maybe aerial juggle if I used it more.
Killing_Joke
Member
I hope we can at least agree on the dope soundtrack. https://youtu.be/uBHitE6LPWQ
Goodbye Alfred ='(
CouchMaster
Member
Finished the game, what a ride. Nearly 100% done but I'm not going on Riddler collectahons anymore. Played it on hard from start to end and I still don't get how people had difficulty with tank battles and bosses, or even Riddler races. Maybe because I speed-maxed my batmobile? They're nowhere near as frustrating as people are making out to be. Heck the most frustrating part was those hand to to hand sections where you have to fight couple of electrified brutes, medics, ninjas, shield guys and couple of goons picking guns from the cache, all mixed in together in one tiny area.
Ugh. No shit. I just got past the Cloudburst Tank fight, and it wasn't so much that it was hard, it was lame and tedious. Just so poorly designed. Mostly because I was forced to do it ONE way, THEIR way, with absolutely no room to get creative and come at it in multiple ways, you know, like GOOD open-world games have you do.
This whole stupid game is like that - they give you the illusion of choice, what with all the objectives and it's open world, but really, it's very fucking restrictive. It makes for a very boring, tedious game.
I'm not singling you out, but it seems like everyone keeps assuming that those of us who don't like the tank stuff is because we find it too hard - that's not the case at all. As I said above, it's mostly some really fucking tedious shit - just not fun and not what I want in a Batman game. They're poorly designed mechanically and gameplay wise. The game would improve ten fold if they dumped all the tank bullshit.
DrakeNathan
Member
why retail version does not have these scenes,pictures from launch trailer
why retail version does not have these scenes,pictures from launch trailer
Those were probably created specifically for the trailer.
The bolded is basically why I quit bothering with posting in this topic. Every post critiquing the game (e.g., tank combat, enemy-type bloat, etc.) is immediately turned into "I'm terrible at this and that is why I don't like it" as opposed to what you've posted here. As I stated a few pages back, I don't think any of the Batmobile combat is actually mechanically-flawed, but it's as you said, that it's tedious, boring, and not something I want in a Batman game.
why retail version does not have these scenes,pictures from launch trailer
I get the feeling the game's campaign was very much in flux throughout development. The E3 2014 demo showed Batman changing into the Batsuit in the Wayne Tower office (implying you might have started the game as Bruce Wayne and then donned the cowl), but despite the fact that it doesn't go that way in the game, the suit chamber is still there. There has been other stuff that varied, but I think they just made changes to the campaign throughout development. The clock tower picture you posted could still happen in DLC or something though.
Beat it today,
the end was a huge letdown for me, the whole surrender and turn yourself over to Scarecrow was terrible, and the most unbatman thing batman could have done. After that I still had to do 4 of gotham's most wanted missions which I really didn't like as side content in the first place.
The complete lack of epic boss fights compared to city/asylum makes the game feel stilted, its just batman running around putting out a bunch of small fires the whole game. I will say the Joker was amazing and Hamil killed it. This ranks at the bottom of the Arkham series for me, while it was extremely impressive visually, it just didn't have the same impact as those other games for me.
The complete lack of epic boss fights compared to city/asylum makes the game feel stilted, its just batman running around putting out a bunch of small fires the whole game. I will say the Joker was amazing and Hamil killed it. This ranks at the bottom of the Arkham series for me, while it was extremely impressive visually, it just didn't have the same impact as those other games for me.
The whole bit with the joker singing to you, you have to praise that moment. Mark Hamil... at his best. Want to see Troy Baker pull that off. haha But yea... love all the snarky comments and remarks Joker makes throughout the whole game.
roflwaffles
Member
WB needs to release a Scarecrow skin for Ermac in MKX. That design is too good.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Yeah, tremendous amount of negative hyperbole about this game that is really quite pathetic.
Anyways, I'm trying to obtain all the Riddler trophies in the game and I'm making good progress -- just have a question. On the map screen, are the total amount of Riddles, Trophies, and Bombers displayed, or just ones you've discovered? In other words, if Miagami island says ZERO is left across the board, I'm done? Because I've seen many complaints about how people can't find the last Riddler informants, etc, but unless I'm mistaken, I'm about to clean up the second island completely.
Map shows the amount of riddles you squeezed out of Riddler's informants (the green guys) in that specific area. Take note that buildings like Panessa or AK HQ have separate map areas. If an island map says 0 but you still have riddles to discover they are inside those buildings.
Finished up. Didn't do a bunch of the side quests so I didn't get the "True Ending", but there you go. It was a fun ride with some frustration littered throughout, but I enjoyed the game overall. It was my first Arkham experience and I'm keen to try out the other 2 entries in the trilogy if they end up remastering them for PS4 (Only platform I have access to).
I liked it. I didn't like some of the Batmobile stuff, I found a lot of the latter portions frustrating. The Cobra tank portions in particular just weren't very fun and as another poster mentioned it would have been nice to be able to tackle those in another way. Why can't I hack those for example?
Despite my slight grievances with the boss battles later on, like I said, I really did enjoy the game overall.
Some of the Joker stuff in the ending was really unnerving. The Batman statues reminded me of Weeping Angels from Doctor Who, that whole scenario played out really damn well.
Jason Todd is Arkham Knight, no real surprises there. Feels a bit like a cop out but as a Batman fan I enjoyed all the references and flashbacks.
Jason Todd is Arkham Knight, no real surprises there. Feels a bit like a cop out but as a Batman fan I enjoyed all the references and flashbacks.
I liked it. I didn't like some of the Batmobile stuff, I found a lot of the latter portions frustrating. The Cobra tank portions in particular just weren't very fun and as another poster mentioned it would have been nice to be able to tackle those in another way. Why can't I hack those for example?
Despite my slight grievances with the boss battles later on, like I said, I really did enjoy the game overall.
CouchMaster
Member
Cobra tanks become ridiculously easy once you unlock the distracting cannon upgrade. You can practically maneuver them in whatever position you want them to be in.
the_batman
Banned
combat wise how? endless amount of filler tank battles are a waste of time and do not encourage replays.
the_batman
Banned
just do a silent takedown on a street roaming criminal.
My issue with them isn't them being hard, they weren't really (It does seem like people think that any complaints related to the Batmobile are with regards to difficulty). I never did that upgrade and I never had an issue with Cobras so far as difficulty is concerned. I mean it's essentially taking a pot shot and destroying one then hiding and doing it again and again. It's just repetitive and in my opinion wasn't that interesting or fun.
I had a lot more fun doing the stealth sections on foot where you can be creative and decide how you want to tackle any given situation with your gadgets and the environment.
Thanks batman
the_batman
Banned
WordsintheWater
Member
The hint pops up and tells you what to press when an enemy charges you a bunch of times. All you have to do is tap L2 and it's an instant knockout on that enemy.
I'm not buying the "tank battlers aren't bad because I'm bad, they're bad because they're boring" argument: Even fights against 60 tanks take like four minutes tops, which is actually similar to how long it takes to fight 30 dudes on foot. And saying "its just about dodging lines" is like saying "it's about mashing X and countering with Y from time to time".
There ARE legitimate complains with the batmobile, like the questionable chase camera or how ridiculously important it is to upgrade it (personally I'd have used two separate talent trees for batman and the batmobile, giving on each level a point for each tree) but... boring? That's just bizarre. Nevertheless, it is okay to not like things and its not like people need to justify their opinion. You don't like the batmobile? That's fine, and its fine to talk about it too. But... are you sure that "boring" is the reason?
There ARE legitimate complains with the batmobile, like the questionable chase camera or how ridiculously important it is to upgrade it (personally I'd have used two separate talent trees for batman and the batmobile, giving on each level a point for each tree) but... boring? That's just bizarre. Nevertheless, it is okay to not like things and its not like people need to justify their opinion. You don't like the batmobile? That's fine, and its fine to talk about it too. But... are you sure that "boring" is the reason?
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
Member
Yup, I'm certain that I know the reason I don't like something. The tank battles are indeed boring. The last one is exactly the same as the one 15 hours earlier, just with more of them. They don't develop the idea, they just shove more and more tanks at you. Each time they showed up, I groaned and just wanted to get it over with because it wasn't remotely interesting to me.
Yes. And repetitive.
The only time I failed one was the
Boss fight where you have to destroy the coolant on the Arkham Knight's tank.
I also liked the Batmobile generally speaking. I loved the puzzle implementation and I felt it worked great as a form of transport as well.
wowbaggerBR
Member
Not everyone for sure, count me on this one. I'm on route to get the platinum, didn't find any part of the game particularly hard, have enjoyed the story (but it's way too short to my liking), would gadly recomend the game to a friend, and yet, Jesus Christ, how messed up is this batmobile thing.
It doesn't work. It's just tedious, repetitive and I loathe gameplay designs that enforces you to take a challenge on a specific way. Always. Every single damn time I went on to disarm a mine, I would have to dodge red lines and shoot at things mindlessly (the same goes to those idiotic chases around the city). I wouldn't mind so much the batmobile if its implementation were better sorted or if the game let the player choose other ways to take some challenges and fights.
Man, how happy I felt when the Arkham Knight crashed that crap on the tunnel fight. But my happiness didn't last very long.
CouchMaster
Member
My posts were towards people who found Riddler races infuriating because they kept failing, and during tank bosses they had to drop the difficulty. Not really towards people who found them tedious and repetitive. I personally enjoy tank battles in games, spent most of my time in BF3 riding in a tank lol.
Not what I meant at all. But if the tank combat is boring, how is the melee combat not boring? Could it be that maybe you just don't like tanks in general, or dislike the idea of batman using a tank? Not trying to be dense here, I just fail to see how they're that different.
WordsintheWater
Member
You can finish them after, you get different dialogue from the villains depending if you beat the story first or not
WordsintheWater
Member
I liked the tank combat, but the melee combat has so many moves to mess around with, the gadgets add a lot to the fights and the different enemy types also force you to use those gadgets. When it comes to the batmobile it's largely dodge and shoot which could get stale ad the game goes on. Although they add new enemy types it doesn't really amount to the fights looking any different.