Did you really expect the Arkham Knight to be anyone other then
Jason Todd?
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Did you really expect the Arkham Knight to be anyone other then
Spring-Loaded
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I thought it wasn't because of how obvious the answer would've been. I wouldn't have minded had the reveal itself not been built up so much and if there was some follow up/conclusion to that story arc.
Revolutionary
Member
It was painfully obvious who it was since a trailer last year where he said something (
"old man"
I was hoping it was Azrael, Hush, or Anarky. Anarky was the front runner for me even as I started playing the game, due to the "A" etched on the table in the diner intro.
Ah, will give that a try on NG+
backflip10019
Member
Wow great ending. One quick question:
To activate the Knightfall do you have to unlock all the Riddler trophies? Or not?
Spring-Loaded
Member
Now get 200 percent
After playing the hell out of this, I suspect it'll be a long time before another completely action-focused Batman game surpasses this one in how comprehensive of "Batman simulator" is is I can't imagine a game being made any time soon that includes so many Batman abilities/gadgets that are seamlessly usable by the player, and on such a scale.
The next game will be scaled back in scope and hopefully take a considerably different approach to combat (predator gameplay never overstayed its welcome though). A future open world Batman game that makes an appropriately leap above AK will be an absolute doozy for whoever develops it.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I am curious how long it will be before WB Games finally announces a new and improved PC version?
neoism
Member
do you get anythang... for 200% i will keep my save and do that with the game of the year edition ..
Spring-Loaded
Member
Nah, not really, aside from the alternate opening. You get to hear the alternate dialogue from villains depending on whether you complete their side missions before or after the last story mission though.
keltickennedy
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I was away on vacation for a little over a week. Come back to see available skins and photo mode!?
Dat photo mode!
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Dat photo mode!
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Doctor Ironic
Member
People keep talking about a "relaunch" for the PC version but I guarantee you that all they're going to do is throw as many fixes as they can at what's already there.
Spring-Loaded
Member
That seems more like it's referring to the game being put back up for sale, and since it was taken down everywhere, that has to happen.
It's definitely going to be branded in such a way (e.g. a "relaunch" or "definitive edition" or some crap) by WB in an attempt to spin the image the PC release has had.
Doctor Ironic
Member
I don't expect it to release at all.
Riddler apprehended. Didn't want to do all the riddles last so now the only Most Wanted left is
. He won't be quite as time consuming I imagine.
I must say this is probably one of my favorite games this year. The batmobile stuff wasn't as bad as most people made it seem either. I'm glad I ignored all the criticism.
Deathstroke
I must say this is probably one of my favorite games this year. The batmobile stuff wasn't as bad as most people made it seem either. I'm glad I ignored all the criticism.
I agree with you. The Batmobile stuff isn't that bad it's just too overused.
Donny Hayabusa
Member
Brutality 101 is pissing me off so so much. I get to 13-14 and then anxiety or bad luck kicks in. Last trophy. Dont know if i can go on. I hate the game so much right now.
Are you pausing between moves? That really helped for me. Generally I would keep vaulting over enemies, thinking carefully about which move I wanted to do next and if I couldn't think of something on the spot, I just paused, checked the combo list, readied myself and unpaused. It makes the whole experience a lot slower, more deliberate and ultimately easier.
Donny Hayabusa
Member
Sounds like a Plan. Ive written down the moves. Maybe i should make a check list out of it.
The thing that pisses me off is, whenever i think now it is going to work, some thug punches me, while im stun jumping another and counter doesnt work as it should.
So I'm nearing the end. Couple of quick questions:
- On the main story, my next mission is to
If I start this part, will it lead to the end of the game?track down Gordon who is transmitting on an encrypted frequency.
- I know there are three different endings depending on how many side missions you complete. How much do I need to complete for the second ending? No way I'm putting myself through finding all those Riddler ?s for 100%
- Trying to 100% most of the side missions to try and at least get the second ending. Some of them, like Campaign for Disarmament, I've completed everything listed, but it's not 100% Is it because I have to complete more of the main story still?
Its weird how people have been saying there are 3 endings, you aren't the first to think that seeing one means not getting the others. That's not how it works: You finish the campaign and get to see the end of the story (like in Batman:AC), then you are dropped back into free roam where you can do some more side missions to unlock an epilogue and after that if you complete EVERYTHING you get an extended epilogue. Both epilogues are simply cinematics which you can look up in youtube if you don't feel like playing more Batman:AK. They are completely optional.
I left off at the stealth
Incredibly frustrating to be so near to the end of the game and just stop playing, but no fun was being had, evening after evening, still failing to finish off the small ones before I even made it to the big one.
tank stuff right before facing the Cloudburst tank.
CloudyTuba
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In Halo-ish terms, if they happen to be a Halo player:
Beat main storyline, you get a soft ending (concludes main storyline but not the end of the game). It'd be sorta like playing Reach without playing Lone Wolf (the mission, not the gametype).
Start Knightfall mission, get the normal true ending.
Start Knightfall mission after finishing everything 100%, get the legendary ending (like Halo 3's forerunner planet).
Spring-Loaded
Member
If you're referring to that Kotaku article from a ways back, then yes.
Ah, thanks.
Thanks for clearing it up for me. Back to the main storyline tonight!
Barrow Roll
Member
FYI you can hack the Cobra tanks once you have 2x energy, it really helps.
Jesus this game blows sometimes.
I'm at a part near the end of the game and it's trying to tell me how to aerial attack a brute with a shield and the combo just doesn't fucking work. It's supposed to be O > XX > Square. How the hell do I do this? Is there some sort of trick, because I just tried with only him alive for like 10 minutes, died, then did it again. Nothing. Can't do that combo.
I'm at a part near the end of the game and it's trying to tell me how to aerial attack a brute with a shield and the combo just doesn't fucking work. It's supposed to be O > XX > Square. How the hell do I do this? Is there some sort of trick, because I just tried with only him alive for like 10 minutes, died, then did it again. Nothing. Can't do that combo.
Spring-Loaded
Member
The aerial attack is "O > XX." That stuns them (similar to how the aerial attack works on normal shield enemies). The "Square" part of the prompt indicates a beatdown since it;s flashing.
You cape stun them, the double tap jump into them (Batman jumps above the shield, then lands on the enemy), then — once they have stars above their head — keep mashing attack until they're knocked out.
Problem is that Batman doesn't jump above the shield. When I stun them and try to double tap X he just leaps around like a fucking idiot behind them.
Spring-Loaded
Member
You're not doing the "X,X" soon enough after the cape stun then. Either that or you're experiencing a glitch I haven't heard of yet.
Searched it and it seems at least one other person had that problem on PC though.
I've tried every speed I can think of with that XX combo. I'll try again tomorrow. I had this problem earlier in the game once, too, and had to do something else to take him out eventually.
BFIB
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Had the same on the docks saving the firefighter.
I've had that problem with the cape stun attack as well; I can't notice a difference in what I'm doing when it works, but it can be annoying. Enjoying the 1939 suit at the moment, though I wish the mask was a bit more stylized like the comics then. I can't decide if I want to play NG+ or not. Currently finishing the militia towers.
Just got the 100% ending so damn cool!! This ending makes me feel Mark Hamill is the best voice actor ever.
Is the bat demon real or was that just a figment of the thugs imagination? Love the scene by scene walkthrough of the older games.
Also at the end of Arkham City where you hear Harley singing the lullaby what happened with that storyline?
Also at the end of Arkham City where you hear Harley singing the lullaby what happened with that storyline?
It's been a hell of a ride and I finally got the Platinum trophy some minutes ago. Arkham Asylum will still be my favorite Batman game but this one definitely met my expectations and I didn't hate the Batmobile as much as other people did, although I agree it was somewhat overused and I definitely was disappointed at
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Deathstroke's tank battle
Seven Force
Banned
That Platinum trophy will definitely be mine, just gotta play and finish New Game +.
Swore I wouldn't start that 'til the Keaton, 70s and Dick Grayson Batsuits released. Mighty tempted to just start now though, given the newly available skins that came out last week.
Swore I wouldn't start that 'til the Keaton, 70s and Dick Grayson Batsuits released. Mighty tempted to just start now though, given the newly available skins that came out last week.
It's been a hell of a ride and I finally got the Platinum trophy some minutes ago. Arkham Asylum will still be my favorite Batman game but this one definitely met my expectations and I didn't hate the Batmobile as much as other people did, although I agree it was somewhat overused and I definitely was disappointed at.Deathstroke's tank battle
How odd, I got the platinum today too, around the time you posted this.
It left me wondering, is it supposed to be Scarecrows fear gas? Has Bruce Wayne returned as Batman and is now using the gas? That seems a little out of character and rather overboard for Batman.
Another answer could be that Bruce Wayne is now Batman full-time and perpetuating a myth that Batman is now an undead demon ghost. This seems plausible on some level because Batman states in the game that there needs to be something more defending Gotham, a concept beyond Batman. Thus turning Batman into a terrifying vengeance seeking ghost is a lot scarier than him being a really rich guy with lots of gadgets. That keeps criminals on their toes and more apprehensive to follow rich people down alleyways, if Bat-ghost might materialise.
Although Im still left wondering why criminals would not be afraid of Batman anymore and why Bat-ghost would be necessary. By this point in the timeline everyone knows Batman is flesh and blood and not a myth or a monster. Overheard dialogue throughout the three Rocksteady games shows that people know Batman is out there and that he makes use of gadgets, not superpowers, yet theyre still afraid of him.
Another thought I had was that its symbolic. That the whole world turning to fire and Bat-demon isnt fear gas or literal, but symbolic of the fear the crooks feel at seeing Batman out there. But again, this seems to clash with the fact that the thugs literally call out to Batman and tell him theyre not afraid. Then of course theres the chance theres DLC coming that will answer who it is. If this is the case, Id expect this demon Batman to be some copycat who got hold of some Scarecrow fear gas. But I dont feel like this is the case, as weird as that final scene is I do get the impression its supposed to be the end of the story.
Unfortunately I just feel like the ending encapsulates the main problem I had with Arkham Knight: the story is very inconsistent. Some story beats hit perfectly while others fall flat and end in disappointment or are surprisingly straightforward. For instance why does Scarecrow act so radically different than he did in Arkham Asylum? Does his plan really just boil down to I dont like Batman and I like people being scared? The Arkham Knight was a good idea but the reveal of who he is is teased out for so long that it goes from being fairly obvious to begin with, to blindingly apparent thanks to multiple indicators later on. You end up in a situation where theres no mystery left and it seems silly that Batman is still scratching his head over who it could be. The worlds greatest detective can scan bones, detect scar tissue through clothing, analyse Azraels brain but he cant figure out that the person inches from his face is somebody he trained for years? Time to update detective vision I think
Arkham City had multiple story threads that complimented each other, even the final hour of the game had multiple twists and clever moments that made everything clearer. But Arkham Knight juggles its plot threads in a much more haphazard manner. Is this a game about Scarecrow? Joker again? Or Jason Todd? The family theme is a strong one but it gets muddled in with other plot beats and as a whole the game feels pretty unfocused. Having Batman unmasked and giving up also feels tacked on and worryingly like it might have been done just because Rocksteady are ready to leave Batman behind. Like this Knightfall ending, it doesnt feel like a natural end to the game.
Another answer could be that Bruce Wayne is now Batman full-time and perpetuating a myth that Batman is now an undead demon ghost. This seems plausible on some level because Batman states in the game that there needs to be something more defending Gotham, a concept beyond Batman. Thus turning Batman into a terrifying vengeance seeking ghost is a lot scarier than him being a really rich guy with lots of gadgets. That keeps criminals on their toes and more apprehensive to follow rich people down alleyways, if Bat-ghost might materialise.
Although Im still left wondering why criminals would not be afraid of Batman anymore and why Bat-ghost would be necessary. By this point in the timeline everyone knows Batman is flesh and blood and not a myth or a monster. Overheard dialogue throughout the three Rocksteady games shows that people know Batman is out there and that he makes use of gadgets, not superpowers, yet theyre still afraid of him.
Another thought I had was that its symbolic. That the whole world turning to fire and Bat-demon isnt fear gas or literal, but symbolic of the fear the crooks feel at seeing Batman out there. But again, this seems to clash with the fact that the thugs literally call out to Batman and tell him theyre not afraid. Then of course theres the chance theres DLC coming that will answer who it is. If this is the case, Id expect this demon Batman to be some copycat who got hold of some Scarecrow fear gas. But I dont feel like this is the case, as weird as that final scene is I do get the impression its supposed to be the end of the story.
Unfortunately I just feel like the ending encapsulates the main problem I had with Arkham Knight: the story is very inconsistent. Some story beats hit perfectly while others fall flat and end in disappointment or are surprisingly straightforward. For instance why does Scarecrow act so radically different than he did in Arkham Asylum? Does his plan really just boil down to I dont like Batman and I like people being scared? The Arkham Knight was a good idea but the reveal of who he is is teased out for so long that it goes from being fairly obvious to begin with, to blindingly apparent thanks to multiple indicators later on. You end up in a situation where theres no mystery left and it seems silly that Batman is still scratching his head over who it could be. The worlds greatest detective can scan bones, detect scar tissue through clothing, analyse Azraels brain but he cant figure out that the person inches from his face is somebody he trained for years? Time to update detective vision I think
Arkham City had multiple story threads that complimented each other, even the final hour of the game had multiple twists and clever moments that made everything clearer. But Arkham Knight juggles its plot threads in a much more haphazard manner. Is this a game about Scarecrow? Joker again? Or Jason Todd? The family theme is a strong one but it gets muddled in with other plot beats and as a whole the game feels pretty unfocused. Having Batman unmasked and giving up also feels tacked on and worryingly like it might have been done just because Rocksteady are ready to leave Batman behind. Like this Knightfall ending, it doesnt feel like a natural end to the game.
Heh, big coincidence. Congrats on the Platinum!
I kind of interpreted that way at first but now I prefer to believe Dick took over and became Batman while Bruce Wayne went into hiding and had everyone else believe he's "dead". I don't accept him killing himself and Alfred shortly after revealing his true identity.
None of that part makes sense to me because the bad guys didn't have gas on them when they saw the vision, it was only surrounding him far away.
The whole city was flooded with the gas.
Several months later though? My assumption was that
New Bats was using FX of some kind, to up the stakes as Bruce said was needed.
Rocksteady released a video about the Batman 89 DLC. The Batmobile and the track look pretty cool. There's also a sneak peek at one of the Robin combat challenges that will come next month. I am really not a fan of the AR stuff, can't they just give us normal challenge maps like the previous games?
https://www.facebook.com/BatmanArkham/videos/1024567877575704
https://www.facebook.com/BatmanArkham/videos/1024567877575704
As somebody who didn't play any of the Arkham games until AK, what is the difference between the AR challenge maps that are in AK and the challenge maps that were in the previous games?