Schweinehund
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I didn't read the full review in fear of spoilers, just the last line + score. Who actually takes time to do shit like fake reviews. I guess he did get my click 
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Batman: Arkham Origins |OT| Justice from the head of Prototype And Hulk: UD
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Dave1988
Member
I am. Why do you ask? Multiplayer?
Agreed. Free is free
The perfect Dark
Banned
I am!
Ephemeris
Member
The perfect Dark
Banned
That's too bad but at least I have 40 Mbps internet now so it wont take me too long to download the game.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Omega_Tom_Hanks
Banned
Can I just say, it's a real pleasure to be in a thread where I agree with you for the most part Derrick. I feel like I must be having a stroke or something.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Mandatory install on Ps3 is 4,7 GB.
Source is a pic on reddit.
Source is a pic on reddit.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Rocksteady/WB should fire their other writers and hire me and Ephemeris.
Rather than going straight out with Justice League, I'd love it if Rocksteady just expanded the city of Gotham into a full-on city, and then took on Snyder's approach that Gotham is a city that generates pure nightmare for its inhabitants. It is a reflection of that which has caused you the most fear and pain and suffering. That approach would work perfectly after all the shit Bruce has gone through. Thematically, it can tie into Hush as an antagonist of Batman, Azrael as a failed successor, The Red Hood as his son, so Bruce see his own failures as a father reflected, and The Court of Owls as his surrogate parents.
Fucking thematic narrative arcs everywhere up in this bitch.
Also: No more single night events. It borders on the hilarious that it's perpetually night and that all this shit happens in one single night. Rather, structure the game like a mini-series or series, with each side-quest as an episode and a long over-arching narrative that ties into the side-quests that ebbs and flows. The narrative in AA and AC begins to suffer as we get closer to the end and there's no room for it to breathe. Structure it like a series, each section with a beginning, middle, and end and a continuing story that drives the plot forward. I'd love to be able to play as Batman at night and Bruce in the day occasionally. Have the game take place over a few months. When the Court attacks, that you can make a one-night event at the climax of the game.
Thoughts on characters: Hush goes after Bruce when he gets wind that the Court is also making moves against him. He's the villain of the first part of the game and he wants his vengeance on Bruce Wayne. I like the idea of him continuing to skin people's faces to steal their identities. Hush can be the villain that gets Bruce's head back in the game. And then, from there, awesome shit happens.
After the Joker killed Jason Todd, he's brought back by the Court of Owls, brain-washed, and given the mask, and becomes their enforcer in Gotham. But he's still devious and clever and has his own plans and machinations.
Plus, we could do the labyrinth that the Court of Owls use to try and break Bruce:
The Talons would just be super-dangerous mooks, honestly. I dunno, there's more stuff we can think up.
Rather than going straight out with Justice League, I'd love it if Rocksteady just expanded the city of Gotham into a full-on city, and then took on Snyder's approach that Gotham is a city that generates pure nightmare for its inhabitants. It is a reflection of that which has caused you the most fear and pain and suffering. That approach would work perfectly after all the shit Bruce has gone through. Thematically, it can tie into Hush as an antagonist of Batman, Azrael as a failed successor, The Red Hood as his son, so Bruce see his own failures as a father reflected, and The Court of Owls as his surrogate parents.
Fucking thematic narrative arcs everywhere up in this bitch.
Also: No more single night events. It borders on the hilarious that it's perpetually night and that all this shit happens in one single night. Rather, structure the game like a mini-series or series, with each side-quest as an episode and a long over-arching narrative that ties into the side-quests that ebbs and flows. The narrative in AA and AC begins to suffer as we get closer to the end and there's no room for it to breathe. Structure it like a series, each section with a beginning, middle, and end and a continuing story that drives the plot forward. I'd love to be able to play as Batman at night and Bruce in the day occasionally. Have the game take place over a few months. When the Court attacks, that you can make a one-night event at the climax of the game.
Thoughts on characters: Hush goes after Bruce when he gets wind that the Court is also making moves against him. He's the villain of the first part of the game and he wants his vengeance on Bruce Wayne. I like the idea of him continuing to skin people's faces to steal their identities. Hush can be the villain that gets Bruce's head back in the game. And then, from there, awesome shit happens.
After the Joker killed Jason Todd, he's brought back by the Court of Owls, brain-washed, and given the mask, and becomes their enforcer in Gotham. But he's still devious and clever and has his own plans and machinations.
Plus, we could do the labyrinth that the Court of Owls use to try and break Bruce:
The Talons would just be super-dangerous mooks, honestly. I dunno, there's more stuff we can think up.
Changed a few things to make it my dream.
GafferGamgee
Neo Member
Not sure about that review either...
This comment of "its not set in Arkham Asylum and it doesnt tell Batmans Origins"
I think its pretty clear from what we have seen so far that this game tells the story of when Batman went from fighting Mob bosses and really became introduced to the psychopathic super villains he would later begin to fight on the regular...
Hence the Origins title...
With the exception of Black Mask I cant think of somebody who would be put in the Asylum over Blackgate until he starts taking down the likes of Joker, Croc, Bane etc...
Thats been my take on it anyway.
This comment of "its not set in Arkham Asylum and it doesnt tell Batmans Origins"
I think its pretty clear from what we have seen so far that this game tells the story of when Batman went from fighting Mob bosses and really became introduced to the psychopathic super villains he would later begin to fight on the regular...
Hence the Origins title...
With the exception of Black Mask I cant think of somebody who would be put in the Asylum over Blackgate until he starts taking down the likes of Joker, Croc, Bane etc...
Thats been my take on it anyway.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Man, I hope we can visit Arkham Asylum for "the first time", even if it's only one short level. I loved that game. That would be awesome
GafferGamgee
Neo Member
that would be pretty awesome...
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I wanna see this kinda marketing and art style for the next Batman game. Screw those Unreal 3 models, let's go all artsy fartsy here:
Rocksteady's next game should have dusk and dawn moments too. They have a really cool moody art style, but I wanna see it evolve more.
Rocksteady's next game should have dusk and dawn moments too. They have a really cool moody art style, but I wanna see it evolve more.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm down with anything. 1950s Batman, Dark Knight Returns Batman, Darwyn Cooke lookin' Batman
as long as Hush isn't there.
as long as Hush isn't there.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Hush has the worst motivations for being a supervillain ever. It's hilarious just how petty they are.
The Arkham version of Hush should be given different motivations. Make him more twisted and depraved. Give him different reasons for wanting to steal Wayne's identity. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIET, they didn't let Strange try to usurp the throne of the Batman, have Thomas Elliot do it!
I gotta be careful. I don't want to come across as too agreeable or likable.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Rocksteady, looking back on it, I DEMAND DICK GRAYSON AND DAMIEN WAYNE AS BATMAN AND ROBIN.
Honestly, just fucking let Bruce retire. Do something new, unusual, awesome! If you wanna do co-op, I'm cool with that, and I hate co-op, but I love Grayson/Damien team up so much, I'd be cool with it.
It'd bring a sort of levity among the darkness, cause Bruce is so fucking dour. I mean, I know he's Batman, it's his thing, but it's just... hilarious at this point.
My God, the hit your reputation would take.
Honestly, just fucking let Bruce retire. Do something new, unusual, awesome! If you wanna do co-op, I'm cool with that, and I hate co-op, but I love Grayson/Damien team up so much, I'd be cool with it.
It'd bring a sort of levity among the darkness, cause Bruce is so fucking dour. I mean, I know he's Batman, it's his thing, but it's just... hilarious at this point.
My God, the hit your reputation would take.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
The next-gen Rocksteady Arkham game should be like DC's Battle for the Cowl. I always felt the story for that was rubbish but the idea of everyone in Gotham, both hero and villain, having it out was genius for something that needs minimal story like a video game. Bruce doesn't even have to be dead, just have a flimsy excuse that leaves Gotham City in danger from a metric ton of villains.
- Heroes to include: Batman (obviously), Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl (Cassandra), Batwoman, Huntress.
- Keep the Batcave.
- Keep the Batplane, but add the Batmobile and the Redwing so you can drive around the city.
Basically the Batman: Gotham City game I wanted when Arkham Asylum was first announced.
- Heroes to include: Batman (obviously), Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl (Cassandra), Batwoman, Huntress.
- Keep the Batcave.
- Keep the Batplane, but add the Batmobile and the Redwing so you can drive around the city.
Basically the Batman: Gotham City game I wanted when Arkham Asylum was first announced.
Shit, I need to finish some loose ends on Arkham City so I can make room.
Omega_Tom_Hanks
Banned
Don't wanna start yangin' up in this bitch.
grosvenor_92
Member
Pre-loading right now and I hope it's good. If it sucks I won't really care as i got it for free.
Matt2thefuture
Member
I wanted to play it so badly I cancelled my GMG order and bought else were so I can preload. If you can't tell from my avatar I <3 me some Batman.
Tokubetsu
Member
I think the "single night" story device could still work. They have just never gone the whole way with it. Pressure needs to be applied, stakes need to actually feel like they're being raised. Some kind of dynamic enemy system where, regardless of what point you are in the story, getting tougher/harder the longer you take to do objectives/complete the game.
The other route to go is something like NotTheGuyYouKill was saying. Give us Batman the detective. give us a scenario that takes place over a week. A prologue showing our villains movie pieces together for Batman Hell Week #141947194, then we get hell week then maybe an epilogue where we see teasers for the next game's villains and maybe the fate of our current ones.
The other route to go is something like NotTheGuyYouKill was saying. Give us Batman the detective. give us a scenario that takes place over a week. A prologue showing our villains movie pieces together for Batman Hell Week #141947194, then we get hell week then maybe an epilogue where we see teasers for the next game's villains and maybe the fate of our current ones.
I was really impressed by the recent playthrough video. Sure it looks similar to Arkham City, but the graphics look more impressive, that snow, suit...it felt more dark and fluid. And the soundtrack samples were brilliant. I loved the MP beta, I'm just not sure whether to invest when next-gen is so near. Could just trade a bunch of games in for a discount.
After skimming over the 2 hour PS3 video that was posted above, I gotta say the city looks amazing. I am gonna guess it takes a good 10 minutes to cross the whole map.
North Gotham where Arkham City took place, really looks amazing now that its not flooded, doesn't have the Riddlers pressure plates everywhere and is rebuilt.
Bat hype at maximum. PC version with Nvidia tech should make this game look even more amazing.
North Gotham where Arkham City took place, really looks amazing now that its not flooded, doesn't have the Riddlers pressure plates everywhere and is rebuilt.
Bat hype at maximum. PC version with Nvidia tech should make this game look even more amazing.
Going to be playing the multiplayer on PC??
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
We need to get some Owlman up in here. Maybe next time.
I'm listening to the soundtrack right now. It's really good.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
yup, NOT a good sign.
i'm skipping this anyways, it just screams cash-in to me and every video I've seen has just re-inforced that notion. I'm happy with just AA and AC
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Yeah. It's worrying. Which is really weird... how could they have gone wrong?
The story set up is simple, but ingenious. The engine, the free flow combat, the systems, everything is already in place. So what's the deal? Also, very little marketing.
keltickennedy
Member
I just got the chance to play a little bit of it (probably 45 mins). Nothing to really judge from having such a short time playing, BUT the combat seemed a little sluggish compared to Batman AC. It's hard to explain till you actually play it, but they seemed to close some of the windows of opportunity for counters after performing certain moves.
I just played Arkham City yesterday and really felt the difference.
I just played Arkham City yesterday and really felt the difference.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Rocksteady/WB should fire their other writers and hire me and Ephemeris.
Rather than going straight out with Justice League, I'd love it if Rocksteady just expanded the city of Gotham into a full-on city, and then took on Snyder's approach that Gotham is a city that generates pure nightmare for its inhabitants. It is a reflection of that which has caused you the most fear and pain and suffering. That approach would work perfectly after all the shit Bruce has gone through. Thematically, it can tie into Hush as an antagonist of Batman, Azrael as a failed successor, The Red Hood as his son, so Bruce see his own failures as a father reflected, and The Court of Owls as his surrogate parents.
Fucking thematic narrative arcs everywhere up in this bitch.
Also: No more single night events. It borders on the hilarious that it's perpetually night and that all this shit happens in one single night. Rather, structure the game like a mini-series or series, with each side-quest as an episode and a long over-arching narrative that ties into the side-quests that ebbs and flows. The narrative in AA and AC begins to suffer as we get closer to the end and there's no room for it to breathe. Structure it like a series, each section with a beginning, middle, and end and a continuing story that drives the plot forward. I'd love to be able to play as Batman at night and Bruce in the day occasionally. Have the game take place over a few months. When the Court attacks, that you can make a one-night event at the climax of the game.
Thoughts on characters: Hush goes after Bruce when he gets wind that the Court is also making moves against him. He's the villain of the first part of the game and he wants his vengeance on Bruce Wayne. I like the idea of him continuing to skin people's faces to steal their identities. Hush can be the villain that gets Bruce's head back in the game. And then, from there, awesome shit happens.
After the Joker killed Jason Todd, he's brought back by the Court of Owls, brain-washed, and given the mask, and becomes their enforcer in Gotham. But he's still devious and clever and has his own plans and machinations.
Plus, we could do the labyrinth that the Court of Owls use to try and break Bruce:
The Talons would just be super-dangerous mooks, honestly. I dunno, there's more stuff we can think up.
I like your style. I'll like it even more if I can play as an Owl (Strix would be nice) and Jason.
Idk, it's been two years since Arkham City. I'm ready for something new, even if it's not by Rocksteady. If you listen to Eric Holmes (head dev) talk about Batman and this game, it appears like there's a lot of passion going into it. Whether their passion will translate into a great game is the question.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I wanna see a twisted Tommy Elliot like this:
He wears other people's faces as masks. So much potential for creepiness there, rather than the contrived reason that he just wanted his parents money and got mad at Bruce's family cause they were nice to him, so he steals Bruce's face.
God.
Looks, if you're slicing off your face, killing people to take their facial bits, and stitching a new face, let's go full out bananas. Oh man. Let's do that face stitching bit from Snyder's 'Death of a Family' with Elliot instead of Joker. Use bits of it, not the entire thing, but there's potential there.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I wanna see a twisted Tommy Elliot like this:
He wears other people's faces as masks. So much potential for creepiness there, rather than the contrived reason that he just wanted his parents money and got mad at Bruce's family cause they were nice to him, so he steals Bruce's face.
God.
Looks, if you're slicing off your face, killing people to take their facial bits, and stitching a new face, let's go full out bananas.
Does your interpretation of a new Rocksteady Batman game also involve a leaner Batman? I've kinda gotten over muscle neck Batman.
Hope this ends up like BS2 in that regard then because I actually liked it more than Bioshock Infinite.