Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Titled

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I saw that title, and I thought of this:

As a result of Batman v Superman (2016), the Supreme Court added an amendment to the landmark Avengers Act of 2012 (also known as Feige's Law).

The act had previously laid out groundwork for a multi-superhero team up movie, stating that each individual hero must have had at least one (1) previous appearance in an earlier film - be it theirs or another hero's.

Batman v Superman resulted in the Snyder Act, which states that multiple heroes could be introduced prior to a team-up film.
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Discotheque said:
If they removed that one really stupid shot of Clark jumping over the truck and watching it destroy an entire building then that complaint would be baseless

But it's there...so yeah he's pretty destructive in the film. I hope batman smacks some sense into him
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You mean the front/bottom floor of that empty building?

EDIT: It's not even a building, it's a fucking empty parking garage.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
Sure it is.
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It's not.

The common complaint is Clark not giving a fuck about civilians in that final cluster-fuck, that he racked up a high body count, not that he "destroyed Metropolis". That the Superman in MoS is not really Superman.

Among many other things. Like the final battle being too long and boring despite the amount of shit they threw up on the screen, poor character development or beating the viewer over the head with its Jesus message.
 
Discotheque said:
If they removed that one really stupid shot of Clark jumping over the truck and watching it destroy an entire building then that complaint would be baseless

But it's there...so yeah he's pretty destructive in the film. I hope batman smacks some sense into him
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If snyder addresses this in the sequel then he will labelled a visionary for knowing the long term plot since beginning . See how that works ?
 
BLACKLAC said:
It's not.

The common complaint is Clark never gave a fuck about civilians in that final cluster-fuck, that he racked up a high body count not that he "destroyed Metropolis" that the Superman in MoS is not really Superman.

Among many other things. Like the final battle being too long and boring despite the amount of shit they threw up on the screen, poor character development or beating the viewer over the head with its Jesus message.
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Wait how did SUPERMAN rack up a high body count, who did he kill besides Zod in Metropolis
 
BLACKLAC said:
It's not.

The common complaint is Clark never gave a fuck about civilians in that final cluster-fuck, that he racked up a high body count not that he "destroyed Metropolis"
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"Destroyed Metropolis" is almost EXACTLY the common complaint, and it's almost always shorthand for the longer explanation you just gave.
 
I don't know why people would even get excited for this.

It's Snyder at the helm, and he's going to fuck up the Dark Knight Returns story so goddamn badly it hurts.
 
A ZACK SNYDER JOINT

Better than the terrible Worlds Finest, but still kind of lame. "Man of Steel: Something Batman-ny" would have done me fine.
 
I still can't believe Clark's transformation into/decision to become Superman was so lazy and unengaging after Snyder gave us something as magnificent as the birth of Dr. Manhattan.
 
For a sequel to a Superman movie they sure are highlighting the fact that it's a Batman and Justice League vehicle.

Can't wait for a solo Superman reboot in the next 20-30 years :(
 
PairOfFilthySocks said:
I don't know why people would even get excited for this.

It's Snyder at the helm, and he's going to fuck up the Dark Knight Returns story so goddamn badly it hurts.
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Then it's a good thing he's not adapting the Dark Knight Returns story then. He said it's influencing how they're doing Batman and that's what we've been seeing. They have said they're not adapting the DKR story itself.

Just like the complaints regarding Man of Steel. It would be good for people who are going to complain to have knowledge of what they're complaining about and not something that's made up in their mind or they want to be true.
 
No, not really. But it will show him learning from his mistakes which is always good

Anyways it wasn't even who caused the destruction that put me off. Just the sheer amount of it. Blockbusters with all these collapsing buildings and explosions are getting kind of stale

Man of Steel came at the unfortunate summer where we had pacific rim and Star Trek 2

And the year before it avengers with giant worm machines breaking everything too

It gets a bit tiring. Hell I think winter soldier lost a bit of steam when the air carriers started falling (again lmao)

I think man of steel had a lot of good ideas, but it was let down by it's script. If that shit got a second look it would have been quite amazing. Instead it's half baked. Fwiw the world engine destruction scene is the best in the film, only moment where I felt like i was watching a superman movie
 
I look forward to the retconning of other superheroes into the world to join the Justice League and the fact that it'll even further undermine the extremely silly keep-your-powers-a-secret subplot from MoS.
 
Maninthemirror said:
Wait how did SUPERMAN rack up a high body count, who did he kill besides Zod in Metropolis
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Zod is there because of him, no one dies if he never sets foot in that derelict ship but regardless, anyone in that 7-11, anyone crushed under the rubble when he fights Zod.

SOB even had the nerve to tongue kiss this chick that was poorly built up as a love interest in the middle of ground Zero.
 
Effect said:
Then it's a good thing he's not adapting the Dark Knight Returns story then. He said it's influencing how they're doing Batman and that's what we've been seeing. They have said they're not adapting the DKR story itself.
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So it'll have a grizzled Batman who fights Superman in a big power suit but none of the decades of history between them that makes that fight dramatic?
 
I'm confused about two things:

A) Why do Batman and Superman by default have to be enemies? Seems counter-intuitive.

2) Why "v" instead of "vs." in the title, just to save marquee space? Or am I supposed to actually say "V" out loud?
 
Effect said:
Then it's a good thing he's not adapting the Dark Knight Returns story then. He said it's influencing how they're doing Batman and that's what we've been seeing. They have said they're not adapting the DKR story itself.

Just like the complaints regarding Man of Steel. It would be good for people who are going to complain to have knowledge of what they're complaining about and not something that's made up in their mind or they want to be true.
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After seeing Man of Steel, I'd imagine people would be even more justified in their pessimism of this film than they were when they saw Sucker Punch.
 
Maninthemirror said:
The trend is everything sounds like shit despite a similar naming convention for other movies where no one raised a red flag on those at this level . Its basically confirmation bias due to perception about WB dc movies , Snyder and everything related to MoS universe. It happens everytime in every mos news
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier makes sense though since the Winter Soldier is a character in the movie which is a sequel to the first Captain America movie, which was also titled similarly. And, you know, it was the title of a series in the comic:
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Dawn of Justice is simply a dumb phrase as a subtitle, paired with Batman VEE Superman COLON...makes it incredibly clunky.
 
Even Batman and Superman is better. Also, talk about a slap in the face to Supers since it's his sequel. He should be the headliner lol

PS: That Batman logo is horrific
 
badcrumble said:
So it'll have a grizzled Batman who fights Superman in a big power suit but none of the decades of history between them that makes that fight dramatic?
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The history of the characters themselves is still bigger than the history of whatever continuity they're following.

Besides, this is not TDKR. We don't know what factors they'll use to dramatize this fight. Let the story do it's own thing before bitching about it.
 
badcrumble said:
I look forward to the retconning of other superheroes into the world to join the Justice League and the fact that it'll even further undermine the extremely silly keep-your-powers-a-secret subplot from MoS.
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Nonsense, it was totally the plan all along to lead into Justice League because you can see the logos of various fictional DCU corporations in a few scenes if you squint closely, and they used Green Lantern's girlfriend even if they couldn't be bothered to spell her name right.
Never mind that nothing in MoS even hints that superpowers or costumed superheroes have existed on Earth-Snyderverse prior to the events of the film.
 
If they do a Justice League bring all the heroes together concept, Wonder Woman has to show at some point, and you just know in your head she's going to look like shit.
 
People are still going to call this batman v superman. the subtitle only implants DC's future intentions of a Justice League movie.

Anyone calling it Age of Ultron? No, they're calling it Avengers 2.
 
BadAss2961 said:
The history of the characters themselves is still bigger than the history of whatever continuity they're following.

Besides, this is not TDKR. We don't know what factors they'll use to dramatize this fight. Let the story do it's own thing before bitching about it.
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Actually we kinda have an idea. Not only did they quote the comic, but its the one where Bruce is standing over Clark and saying "I beat you.". All hail the Batgod.

Granted it was General Swanwick who said it at the announcement. Who knows? Maybe it was more literal than it seemed.
Father_Brain said:
Nonsense, it was totally the plan all along to lead into Justice League because you can see the logos of various fictional DCU corporations in a few scenes if you squint closely, and they used Green Lantern's girlfriend even if they couldn't be bothered to spell her name right.
Never mind that nothing in MoS even hints that superpowers or costumed superheroes have existed on Earth-Snyderverse prior to the events of the film.
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Except the giant spaceship.

Also the world engine is something that Mongul uses to create/operate Warworld.
 
badcrumble said:
I look forward to the retconning of other superheroes into the world to join the Justice League and the fact that it'll even further undermine the extremely silly keep-your-powers-a-secret subplot from MoS.
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That's not necessarily a retcon. Typically the main Justice League members aren't public until some event brings them out and together. Besides that, scenes with Pa Kent were 14 years before the events of Man of Steel. There's better criticism to toss at his movie.
 
Im generally very optimistic about this flick, but that's just a plain absurd title.

BUT

it doesn't matter, it clearly communicates what the movie is about and people will flock to it in droves. Another billion sold.
 
What willl the title drop be like?

*After Batman and Superman save the day*
"Those two heroes. The ones we need, but not the ones we deserve. The truly are....the World's Finest..."

"No.....They are..... the beginning of the Dawn of Justice."
 
Father_Brain said:
If Iron Man 2, Thor 1, or Cap: TFA had been subtitled Rise of Vengeance, it'd have been a clunky title for much the same reason.
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The First Avenger is just as clunky and excessive, but no one cares. No one even remembers that subtitle except fans using its initials to distinguish it from the sequel.
 
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