Sibersk Esto
Banned
I think we're all forgetting that no kryptonite means no Metallo or Titano the super ape.
And that I cannot abide
And that I cannot abide
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Batman vs Superman: World's Finest Three-Year Wait
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morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I think we're all forgetting that without kryptonite we cannot have a trite scene with Lois and Clark on a date and Lois ordering desert while saying, "Chocolate is my kryptonite!"
MisterHero
Super Member
Krypton is much more massive than Earth. Even without the sun, Superman has the proportional strength of ants, can jump like a grasshopper, etc.The sun gives him powers
Batman ain't doing jack shit to Supes. A freaking terraformer couldn't destroy him.
As for kryptonite, growing the particulates from MoS into kryptonite crystals isn't out of the question.
I'd be fine with him reneging on this (it wouldn't even really be reneging since he only says there was no kryptonite in MoS, with no comment on its existence in the universe going forward). Bring on the kryptonite.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I'm with you on that. Kryptonite itself is a byproduct of making Superman too strong.
It's one of the reasons I always preferred Martian Manhunter. Dude is overpowered as fuck, but his weakness is common, easily produced fire.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
That's another thing, there is no debris that went on "a journey" in MoS, the planet did a weird stasis explosion, basically all debris stopped in its tracks right after the explosion. And even if it did go on "a journey", krypton is so far away, debris would simply never reach earth (27 lightyears away).
Jor-El made a big deal about the sun and the atmosphere of earth, so it's definitely both things that empower him, which makes a tiny piece of krypton rock just the dumbest possible thing to have in the movie
Maybe it's not part of Krypton but part of Earth that was changed while the World Engine was active?
That's a stretch but possible I guess. Still holding out hope I don't have to endure Cavill dropping like a bitch because of a rock. Unless that Rock was Black Adam. >_>
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I liked it's use in Superman: Birthright where Luthor was obsessed with it because it was evidence of intelligent life on other planets, since he could never relate to anyone on earth
I think Secret Origin did the same thing but to a lesser degree
More like Kryptonite is what allowed them to make him so strong. It gave writers an easy out, because no matter how crazy they made his feats, they could always point to it and say "See! Something can beat him!"
It's always been a lame plot device and one of the weaker parts of the lore.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Massive stretch though, remember he was fighting the world engine through clouds of crude krypton atmosphere and particles, and he still managed to power through it.
I just don't see how a piece of "krypton" rock is going to affect him, considering what's been established in MoS.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
Even Donner superman powered through lifting a Kryptonite Island into space. If they do introduce Kryptonite, I think it'll only make him vulnerable to conventional attacks, as opposed to sapping his strength and inducing pain.
Anyone know the t-shirt Snyder is wearing in the Save the Bats video? Seems cool
Don't worry, they'll give Metallo an aura of "Krypton atmosphere". No need for kryptonite.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
And that was because of their decades long friendship in the comics... whereas here, it's supposed to be the first time they meet. I'm not sure how they are going to make that work.
Just have Batman taunt Supes about the fact he killed Zod, that's he's a murderer, that should make him hold back... probably.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Probably gonna have something to do with how shitty he felt killing Zod, which will likely become the source of this Superman's establishing the no-kill rule.
Also, just because the last film didn't have any Kryptonite doesn't mean this one won't. I'm certain Luthor or Wayne (or both) will end up synthesizing it based on some sort of scientific study of the Kryptonian shit littered around Metropolis after Man of Steel. It won't be a rock on a chain.
hell, imagine the completely synthesized, glowing green batarangs made out of treated kryptonite that batman starts chucking at Superman during the fight.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I'd rather not imagine it cause it's really stupid.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
but it's too late now!
It's there!
Lodged in your brain. Glowing. Pulsing with the sickly green radiation of a dead planet.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Let's hope it goes better than his ASM2 collaberation
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Here come the drums
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
oh jeez, that ASM2 soundtrack was all shitty wubdub noooooooooooo
Sibersk Esto
Banned
DonasaurusRex
Online Ho Champ
i wonder how batman will weaponize this kryptoninan atmosphere to neutralize superman, because we all know he's gonna beat supes
Discotheque
Banned
Oh fuck this is gonna be so awful
Unless the mad max soundtrack turns out great, junkiexl is scoring that. But there were wubs all over the trailer
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Junkie XL's collaborated on the Man of Steel soundtrack, too.
I believe he also worked on The Dark Knight & Dark Knight Rises.
Junkie XL != Wub. At least, not as a rule.
edit: although there was some wub in Zod's theme - however it was tied specifically to the World Engine - which was in and of itself a Dubstep Machine, so it was appropriate.
broncobuster
Banned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zYB1PLjKv0#t=316
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqJDLzIXDps#t=121
Yes, in fairness he is credit to good tracks on Man of Steel.
Kryptonite doesn't "turn the tables" on Superman, villains like Metallo, Titano, Kryptonite Man barely pose a threat to him.
He defeats them regardless whether they have Kryptonite or not.
Simo
Member
The Mad Max comic con trailer was all trailer stock music, nothing in it was by Junkie XL. He did sampling work at home like Zimmer for a year before George Miller approved it and then set up shop in Sydney with a full orchestra to record the score.
Honestly though the collaboration isn't that surprising considering Zimmer and Snyder met with Junkie earlier in the year at Warner Bros. studios lot.
Discotheque
Banned
i really liked the opening track of that trailer though, hoping that makes it into the film.
and i didn't know about junkie working with zimmer before.
I actually remembered nothing of the ASM2 soundtrack so I decided to listen to the main theme last night...
My stars it was so bad.
No villain "barely" poses a threat to Superman or any hero unless they're complete comic relief/fodder. Superman beating these people doesn't mean they aren't formidable, it just means he's a hero that overcomes the odds and beats his villains, just like every other Superhero.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Heh. I like this.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Batm...-Interest-Problem-With-Dark-Knight-68016.html
Junkie XL is collaborating with Zimmer specifically because Zimmer doesn't wanna fuck with Batman's music anymore.
So Zimmer will score the Superman stuff, and Junkie XL will do the Batman stuff.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Batm...-Interest-Problem-With-Dark-Knight-68016.html
Junkie XL is collaborating with Zimmer specifically because Zimmer doesn't wanna fuck with Batman's music anymore.
So Zimmer will score the Superman stuff, and Junkie XL will do the Batman stuff.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I've never heard of Junkie XL.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
I wonder what the pitched scene was, since supposedly MoS wasn't officially the start of the DCCU till after it had released and DC figured out what it wanted to do going forward.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I remember Snyder saying he wouldn't have done that even if it'd gotten past Nolan, because he also doesn't like the practice.
(although watch BvS have one)
(although watch BvS have one)
I'm gonna say that the Daily Planet scene was gonna be it and it was just moved.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Just saw this on SHH.
Cavill got a little drunk me thinks.
So Cavill loves chocolate?
The shops from this will be lovelyJust saw this on SHH.
Cavill got a little drunk me thinks.
They've also worked together on Inception as well.
Inception, Dark Knight Rises, Man of Steel. That's damn good enough of a resume as far as I'm concerned. Especially with Zimmer overseeing everything. He seems to put out good work when working alongside Zimmer
For the better... at this point it would come across as a Marvel rip off if they started aping that idea. They should however do as much as they can to intertwine the stories with easter eggs and subtle foreshadowing.
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