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Batman vs Superman: World's Finest Three-Year Wait
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Bobby Roberts
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Even if it was an official account (whose account again? I follow that link and I don't see who it belongs to, just the pic) all its doing is guessing at what's going on. There's no actual information in that information.
Schweinehund
Member
thought that said alan scott eastwood.
He looks like he could play a super hero. We're basically down to Hal and Shazam now eh? Of those two he looks more like Hal. Then again we basically have like 5 or so empty slots for potential villains. (Flash could potentially have multiple villains, Aquaman Orm/Oceanmaster, WW could have cheetah, ares or circes, Batman/MoS solo, don't know who will play Brainiac, GL's villain (though they should get Mark Strong back)).
He looks like he could play a super hero. We're basically down to Hal and Shazam now eh? Of those two he looks more like Hal. Then again we basically have like 5 or so empty slots for potential villains. (Flash could potentially have multiple villains, Aquaman Orm/Oceanmaster, WW could have cheetah, ares or circes, Batman/MoS solo, don't know who will play Brainiac, GL's villain (though they should get Mark Strong back)).
Batman may appear in the Suicide Squad
Not surprising with Joker in it
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2015/01/20/batman-may-appear-in-suicide-squad-film/
Not surprising with Joker in it
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2015/01/20/batman-may-appear-in-suicide-squad-film/
Didn't a recent rumor state we would see footage of Batman on a monitor or something? Like Waller was keeping tabs on him.
Man, he really looks like his dad.
He was in Fury too so there's a chance
Major Gripex
Member
What's the concensus on him acting wise?
Haven't seen him in anything, myself.
Supposedly, this is a shirt worn by Batman v Superman film crew members:
Baman in his Hulkbuster suit.
I'm pretty sure I saw him in some crappy SyFy movie last year, but those are never a good place to gauge any actor's talents since the dialogue is always abysmal.
Sevket-Erhat
Member
Supposedly, this is a shirt worn by Batman v Superman film crew members:
I am in (as if I wasn't from day one)
Fits nicely. If that Joker bit is true, that makes sense.
Though I'd rather a solo Batman movie be about someone else... Atleast for the first one. Or Joker is just part of it.
Sevket-Erhat
Member
Riddler or Scarecrow perhaps ?
Scarecrow has been done. Riddler, maybe.
I would say Court of Owls. Or something like Black Mask coming into the picture, taking control of all the crime families and using their resources to launch a bunch of supervillains at Batman (think Arkham Origins without the stupid twist).
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Red Hood.
Makes for an absolute perfect first movie villain.
Flashbacks that build up the DCCU(especially with us starting late in Batman's career), "new" villain, gets Joker in there for WB but in a side/subvillain role.
We're still too close to Winter Soldier for the reveal to not feel redundant. It would fit with the Joker's role, but I dunno...
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Idk, if they didn't play up the twist too much I think it could work.
Red Hood would also have a different style role so it wouldn't be a repeat of Winter Soldier either.
I just would want some distance from the Joker. I mean... by the time this happens, it'll have been 10 years since Dark Knight, but still, we'll only have had one Batman movie in-between with different villains (Bane, Catwoman, Talia).
I don't want it to be like the Spider-Man movies where literally every other movie has had Green Goblin.
Schweinehund
Member
CoTO is my choice as well. Batman films should be mysteries, not martial arts action flick (though the Talons could fill in that role quite easily). Long Halloween or Hush would also be a nice choice, though Halloween would be hard to convert to a film considering how many time jumps there are.
Though after reading Zero Year, Riddler could be a great villain if written well.
Just really want to see the detective aspect of Batman. Nolan's films touched on it so little with the ballistics test but we need more than that.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Riddler strikes me as an extremely difficult villain to write well. His whole schtick is basically that he's desperate for people to acknowledge his genius, but unlike most such characters, he really is the smartest man in the room (when that room doesn't contain Batman). Most writers accomplish this by dumbing down everyone that isn't Batman or the Riddler, but that's extremely unconvincing. Couple that with the fact that he relies on tests of wit and word games rather than mad science (mostly), and you really do need a writer as clever as the character is supposed to be.
Hush is fucking nonsensical. Narratively, its nothing but a bunch of random villain cameos, connected by a shoestring by Jeph Loeb desperately trying to justify who Jim Lee felt like drawing at the time. The mystery to it is fucking bananas.
The Cretan
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I want Court of Owls for the next solo Batman movie. This way we can see the martial arts master, detective, full of gadgets (they aren't into the story so much but they can add them very easily) Batman. We didn't see the first two aspects of the character so much in Nolan's trilogy.
Schweinehund
Member
ah, I haven't gotten around to reading it yet, just heard good things about it (though it seems divisive). If it's going to be a good film, no matter the comic it is adaptating, it should take the beats of a story and work itself within that frame, rather than doing a 1:1 approach.
I could see Under the Red Hood working if they alter some aspects of the story. I can't imagine there being more than two Robins to the mainstream audience (would likely be Dick and Kelley), so they could explain why Robin is a girl (IIRC we're getting a girl robin for BvS) instead of a boy (as people usually see them), so Dick (or alternatively Jason) would be the one killed. Otherwise they have to introduce all the other Robins (which could be a burden for writers). and I'm not sure if that would add anything to the story, we don't even know the scope of WB's plans for DCU and we already know there is a Titans show in the work for TNT. I'm a little skeptical we'll get much of the Bat Family, WB might be tepid on it after the B&R movie, and would like to test the waters first with BvS.
WB needs to stop being fucking cowards about it and just embrace the Bat Family. Whether it be classic Robin (Dick) and Batgirl (Barbara), or Nightwing, Oracle, Robin (Tim), Batgirl (Steph) and Red Hood - whatever. But if they continue to shy away from that stuff, it just makes them look completely afraid of their own source material. There are other Batman books out there than Dark Knight Returns.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
well it is dc
Tell me about. I've never anticipated a film more. Wish I could buy my IMAX ticket right now!It is both funny/sad
That the three-year wait is almost down to a year.. since means its been a long road, but still a long road to go!
I know I'm in the minority about this, but I don't care about seeing or even really want to see any Bat-family members. I prefer my Batman movies with him running solo. I liked what Nolan did with Blake and Selina in TDKR, but that's probably about as far as I'd like to see it go.
Marion Cobretti
Member
I'm in the same boat.
Schweinehund
Member
I don't think many people would care about the source material other than comic fans. I'd love to see the Bat fam so long as they were introduced in a manner that makes sense to the story. I'm really hoping we're introduced to comic book batman crazy gadgets and all with clayface and other more supernatural bat villains.
Batman is a little different than most heroes in that he has a legacy in place, people associate Robin with Burt Ward and campiness. It doesn't help that the Arkham Games have solidified this view as well (that Robin is integral to Batman). Hell it took until Origins to establish that Alfred is important to Bruce. They need a solid script to flesh out the concept of robin and his/her relation to Batman. Typically they'd be shown as emotional support or basically the element that prevents Bruce from becoming full on Batman, rather than his lackey he barks orders at.
I think the best route to go is if some Batman films were chronological prequels to BvS. In fact I think all the solo movies should be mostly independent stories. I don't think a story like Under the Red Hood or Killing Joke or anything like that could pay off without establishing his universe first and the characters. I don't think people who give a shit if Barbara was shot 30 minutes after she was introduced. Rachael Dawes in TDK paid off well because audiences felt she was an important character and therefore immune to danger.
You're not really the minority. Most casual batfans (played some arkham games, watch nolan's trilogy, maybe some TAS) share the same opinion as well. I feel that just jumping into the Bat Family without some history is going to be a hard sell when it comes to tying the audiences emotions to them.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I'm not holding my breath for any bat family members, even if I would like them on screen
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Hey i'd be fine with no Joker in comics, movies, cartoons, games and DTVs for the next 10 years but you know DC/WB are going to use him no matter what.
Carrie Kelly is seeming like she is in.
Also Nightwing will be in this universe without a doubt(even if he won't be used much).
Yeah, I'm not stupid. The Joker is a big villain for a reason, but I'd rather they find a better way to use him going forward instead of putting him in a central villain role again. More often than not, it's other villains whose plans he comes in to fuck up, just kinda for fun.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Fuckin' A
Jena Malone would've been a great Barb/Batgirl.
*sigh* Don't remind me...
BadAss2961
Member
Would be cool to get a Killing Joke flashback at some point. If he's in Arkham during Suicide Squad, terrorizing the Gordons could be the last thing he did before he ended up back there.
Schweinehund
Member
still have him pegged for Jimmy. Some people think Jimmy is younger but he's just got that Jimmy face and he's the same age as clark atleast in new52. I don't see anything menacing or unique about his face that makes you think he's a villain.
"getting into emotionally" + cgi legs, makes me think that Jimmy with prosthetic rumor is true.
is actually doomsday
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Did y'all see the quote from the choreographer?
It looks like we're finally going to see a martial artist Bruce on film. It seems like Zack Snyder is a comic fan because his comic movies are on point.
It looks like we're finally going to see a martial artist Bruce on film. It seems like Zack Snyder is a comic fan because his comic movies are on point.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I feel like even if he's not a comic book fan, Snyder is a very "comic-booky" director.
If that makes any sense.
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