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Battlefield 1 |OT| Make War Great Again

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WhiskerFrisker

Member
Lemnisc8 said:
TL;DR fighter planes are awersome

I've always been one of those players that is reasonable on foot, average in a tank, but excelling somewhere in the sky (I actually sucked in the planes but the helicopters were my bag in bf4), so I was really nervous about flying in this one.

I spent all my time getting medic, support, scout and assault to 10, then worked on the tanker a little and am now around tank 4-5 before even getting in a plane. I was apprehensive about it because I didn't 'get' the jet; too much lock-on and spam and I just couldn't cope.

I was wrong to wait. I'm not a bomber though, too slow and cumbersome although still pretty devastating, it doesn't fit with my play style. Attack plane? Yeah, I loved it. Loved the combat but found fighters difficult to out turn and relied on switching to tail gunner to take them out (I'll add at this point that I agree with dude on almost all his points about the tail gun, it's just gone a little too far). I used the standard lmg>bombs>flare version mostly although found the tank hunter fun, but less effective than if I was on foot so a bit of a waste.

However the attack planes are definitely where I excel. If the enemy is constantly spawning planes I will definitely go with the bomber destroyer variant. Noticed iRawr also mention this variant, and I feel almost unkillable in it, and the speed boost means you can get away from most other attack planes on your tail (which is a godsend since no tail gun).

The rockets pack a serious punch and have learnt that it's better to keep off the back of bombers and come in from its sides where it's vulnerable. If you get good hits on your rockets (which are tricky to use but rewarding when you get it right), you can sometimes finish them off in the one run with your gun for an easy triple.

Against attack planes, I'll test the water to check for a tail gunner, if not, I'll get in close, REAL close, and let rip. They're very dead shortly after that. Against good pilots and gunners it becomes more of a challenge but with the greater weaponry, superior agility and a speed boost on top of that to get away in a hurry and they tend not to last more than one or two runs from different angles.

The only real threat is another attack plane of the same variant, but so far I've always managed to get away in this plane either by finding friendly AA or various fancy flying to make them crash or make a mistake so I can get out of their sight line and away from them. I have been shot down and I have made mistakes while learning the nuances so I'm not infallible but if I'm boots on the ground and I get bombed EVER then I'm coming up there to get my revenge.

Other than that, when the enemy are sick of being shot down it usually turns into an AA spam-fest and it can get boring when there's nothing to shoot down, especially taking into account that you have other teammates also looking to shoot down enemy planes as well, it can get boring in the plane as it's not so effective on infantry.

Also... for people that bail out of planes, please don't. It sucks, and I'm going to try and ram you. I've found this following tactic to work well against any pilot who doesn't use first person to look behind: taking a chunk of health off with the gun (50% will do, we don't want to do too much damage) before allowing them to think they have lost you (it's better to get behind in underneath in case a pilot does look behind).

Most pilots will fly crazy for a bit waiting to take damage, do NOT take the opportunity yet. Allow the pilot the false sense of relief as he will then take the opportunity to try and repair while flying straight or on a fixed curve - get in there close and unload all rockets right on his/her tail for an instant kill.
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Fighter planes are indeed godlike. The speed in combination with the weapons makes it so damn good. I like it more than the Attack Plane only because I can outmaneuver almost all other planes and AA gunner's shooting at me.

Do you play on PC? If not, how do I look around in first-person view on consoles? 150 hours played and I have no idea how to do it.
 
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iRAWRasaurus

Banned
WhiskerFrisker said:
Fighter planes are indeed godlike. The speed in combination with the weapons makes it so damn good. I like it more than the Attack Plane only because I can outmaneuver almost all other planes and AA gunner's shooting at me.

Do you play on PC? If not, how do I look around in first-person view on consoles? 150 hours played and I have no idea how to do it.
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IIRC its clicking L3 on the stick.
 
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Azzawon

Member
Playing for the first time in a while on XB1, but has a recent patch ruined the framerate or is it just me? It used to run smooth as butter but I've just played two games of TDM and struggled to compete as I'm getting hitching and framedrops constantly. Just tried a hard reset and will try to play again but definitely a weird experience - just wondering if anyone else has the same issue.
 
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Capsov

Member
Azzawon said:
Playing for the first time in a while on XB1, but has a recent patch ruined the framerate or is it just me? It used to run smooth as butter but I've just played two games of TDM and struggled to compete as I'm getting hitching and framedrops constantly. Just tried a hard reset and will try to play again but definitely a weird experience - just wondering if anyone else has the same issue.
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Ive felt that its actually been running better. I play mainly rush and operations.
 
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Jack Scofield

Member
Anyone notice a difference in zooming after a recent patch? Some vehicles/emplacements will toggle zoom, while others require you to hold L2 down. It's not a big deal but it's strange. Or maybe it was always like this and I just can't remember.
 
DaciaJC

DaciaJC

Gold Member
Jack Scofield said:
Anyone notice a difference in zooming after a recent patch? Some vehicles/emplacements will toggle zoom, while others require you to hold L2 down. It's not a big deal but it's strange. Or maybe it was always like this and I just can't remember.
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Have the same problem on PC. It definitely was not always like this.
 
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WhiskerFrisker

Member
Jack Scofield said:
Anyone notice a difference in zooming after a recent patch? Some vehicles/emplacements will toggle zoom, while others require you to hold L2 down. It's not a big deal but it's strange. Or maybe it was always like this and I just can't remember.
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Yes. More specifically, tanks just require a single button press and they stay zoomed in. Gun placements still require me to hold the zoom button.
 
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Hakkelus

Member
JDB said:
I still hope one day DICE will move away from the entire Premium model. Free maps that are available to everyone is the way to go. Doubt that'll happen any time soon, though.
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They don't care what is "the way to go", they care about what makes them the most money. And it's a shame so many people are willing to go along with this crap and making it possible for them.
 
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disillusion386

Member
For the console players, what control schemes do you use for planes? Sometimes I would mess around with the bombers or attack planes, but then I just crash or get killed right away because I couldn't maneuver properly.

Also, is there a way to practice flying the planes outside of the SP campaign?
 
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iRAWRasaurus

Banned
disillusion386 said:
For the console players, what control schemes do you use for planes? Sometimes I would mess around with the bombers or attack planes, but then I just crash or get killed right away because I couldn't maneuver properly.

Also, is there a way to practice flying the planes outside of the SP campaign?
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I am default on everything except I changed invert vertical flight or look (don't remember which one). I use either the ground support attack plane or the bomber killer fighter plane. I think the fighter planes are easier to use for new pilots due to personal experiences. No idea if you can just load into a empty server to mess around but I learned from crashing many times :p

I don't think there is any way to practice flying outside of SP, which I don't think is a good way to practice. Since the SP plane controls different from MP plane I believe.

Try watching some tips from some youtubers. Keep trying and you will get the hang of it! This is actually the first time in a BF game where I learn to fly planes and do well. It's pretty fun once you get the hang of it.
 
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disillusion386

Member
iRAWRasaurus said:
I am default on everything except I changed invert vertical flight or look (don't remember which one). I use either the ground support attack plane or the bomber killer fighter plane. I think the fighter planes are easier to use for new pilots due to personal experiences. No idea if you can just load into a empty server to mess around but I learned from crashing many times :p

I don't think there is any way to practice flying outside of SP, which I don't think is a good way to practice. Since the SP plane controls different from MP plane I believe.

Try watching some tips from some youtubers. Keep trying and you will get the hang of it! This is actually the first time in a BF game where I learn to fly planes and do well. It's pretty fun once you get the hang of it.
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Oh maybe I'll try checking out an empty server. I'll try to find some youtube videos on it. So far most of what I've seen are on KB/M, and they also just give tips as opposed to teaching how to actually maneuver. Lol, I basically need to learn what to do with my fingers.
 
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RebornYeti

Member
disillusion386 said:
For the console players, what control schemes do you use for planes? Sometimes I would mess around with the bombers or attack planes, but then I just crash or get killed right away because I couldn't maneuver properly.

Also, is there a way to practice flying the planes outside of the SP campaign?
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I'm horrible with proper terms for flying, but if I wanna go up, I move the joystick up. I'm not too positive if that's considered inverted for flying or not though lol.

And there is no other way to practice flying other than to practice in actual matches, which sucks. I wish they would either bring back Air Superiority or include a Test Range like they had in BF4.

EDIT: I'm thinking of writing up a proper guide for flying in BF1 (for consoles). I think I basically have everything down pat, but I just need to figure out how to put it into words haha.
 
DOWN

DOWN

Banned
I started the campaign at launch and stopped because I thought the tank story was so awful I couldn't finish it

But I plowed through and liked every other War Story a lot

So the verdict is skip the 1st War Story and breathe free
 
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WhiskerFrisker

Member
disillusion386 said:
For the console players, what control schemes do you use for planes? Sometimes I would mess around with the bombers or attack planes, but then I just crash or get killed right away because I couldn't maneuver properly.

Also, is there a way to practice flying the planes outside of the SP campaign?
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Default is the way to go. Warning: Do not get into a bomber plane if you're learning how to fly; It's too slow to get a hang of flying and you'll most likely get shot out of the sky by planes, AA Gunners, and
tanks
. You most likely will clip a tree though.
 
P

Psychoward

Banned
disillusion386 said:
For the console players, what control schemes do you use for planes? Sometimes I would mess around with the bombers or attack planes, but then I just crash or get killed right away because I couldn't maneuver properly.

Also, is there a way to practice flying the planes outside of the SP campaign?
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Legacy or whichever has accelerate on RT and slow on LT.

and the SP campaign isn't even good to practice flying because you can't roll manually for some reason, but no, there's no good way to practice flying. No fighter squadron mode and no practice range.
 
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disillusion386

Member
Thanks for the tips. I ended up hopping on an empty Conquest server and tested out different control schemes. Oddly enough, I felt the most comfortable with Veteran for buttons (throttles on the triggers) and Legacy for the sticks. Now just gotta test it out with actual players.
 
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Nyx

Member
Been playing Medic for awhile now to get it to rank 10 and boy do I love the Selbstlader Factory. So satisfying to kill with
 
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Theorry

Member
Poor guy. Getting killed by his own Tripwire bomb haha.

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Forerunner

Member
Nyx said:
Been playing Medic for awhile now to get it to rank 10 and boy do I love the Selbstlader Factory. So satisfying to kill with
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Just wait until you get the other Selbstalder!
1.0


It's a piece of junk.

Actually to go more in depth. The Selb 1906 is a weird gun. Technically it does have one of the fastest TTK and also is one of the most accurate, however the five round clip really does hold it back a lot. Some people suggest increasing the clip size, however that would pretty much make it the go to weapon for medic and completely overshadow the other weapons. I'd be happy with just a buff to the reload speed since you're going to be reloading constantly.
 
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Psychoward

Banned
what's the best vehicle loadouts? At 250 per pop I don't wanna mess up. I remember hearing good things about the trench fighter plane or something and I've seen the flamethrower tank steamroll people in close quarters although it may have been nerfed since I last really played.

also is there any reason at all to use the Gewehr Infantry variant over the Carbine variant? The Carbine seems to outclass it in every metric statswise while also getting an optical sight
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
Loading menus can sometimes take so long I'll exit the game completely and retry

Does anyone know how to customie vehicles if you're not in the middle of a match? Add flamethrower etc.
 
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Psychoward

Banned
Kastrioti said:
Loading menus can sometimes take so long I'll exit the game completely and retry

Does anyone know how to customie vehicles if you're not in the middle of a match? Add flamethrower etc.
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No I don't think you can, and you can only customize those when you have a vehicle selected

lol
 
Meccs

Meccs

Member
I'm still convinced they changed something with the last patch. I get killed behind cover constantly and shot by people not even looking at my direction etc. Was fine before.
 
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terrible

Banned
Meccs said:
I'm still convinced they changed something with the last patch. I get killed behind cover constantly and shot by people not even looking at my direction etc. Was fine before.
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It's been like that the entire time for me. It feels like BF4 before they upped the tickrate.
 
Meccs

Meccs

Member
terrible said:
It's been like that the entire time for me. It feels like BF4 before they upped the tickrate.
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Even before the last patch? I felt like it was ok but I only played about 8 hours since I just got the game. But I agree, at the moment it really feels like when BF4 came out...
 
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terrible

Banned
Meccs said:
Even before the last patch? I felt like it was ok but I only played about 8 hours since I just got the game. But I agree, at the moment it really feels like when BF4 came out...
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Yeah it seems unchanged since launch to me. It's better or worse depending on how laggy everyone in a given server is probably but I've been getting lots of WTF moments since launch. It's not unplayable but after BF4 I can't help but feel like it's a step back in terms of the frequency of dying behind cover and junk like that.
 
DaciaJC

DaciaJC

Gold Member
5taquitos said:
So how exactly do I go about finding a game of Standard Infantry Rifles?
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If you're on PC, you might try opening the server browser, allowing it to show all (non-empty) servers, and searching "rifles." Not sure about consoles, but I assume the process would be similar. I think there might be an option under custom game rules in the browser for SRI if you want to make a special filter, but I personally haven't tried it yet.
 
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Forerunner

Member
PsychoWARD23 said:
what's the best vehicle loadouts? At 250 per pop I don't wanna mess up. I remember hearing good things about the trench fighter plane or something and I've seen the flamethrower tank steamroll people in close quarters although it may have been nerfed since I last really played.

also is there any reason at all to use the Gewehr Infantry variant over the Carbine variant? The Carbine seems to outclass it in every metric statswise while also getting an optical sight
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Trench Fighter is good. For the Heavy Tank it doesn't really matter, they are all good. For the Light Tank, you want the Flanker. The Landship is still kind of eh.
 
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Forerunner

Member
I finally finished the fucking legendary Bludgeon after 92 hours, lol. I still need two more pieces for the Sawtooth Knife though.

Actually I'm done lol. I decided to buy a few packs and I finished the Sawtooth.
 
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Alpende

Member
Just got the platinum. Had to level scout to rank 2 and that was it. I really don't like that class, the only positive thing are the flares.
 
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terencecah

Member
Which is the best hipfire SMG for assault? i'm liking the regular m1918 so far, is the trench version good? I like how fast it shoots

Is it just me or are none of the SMG's meant to be used in ADS? The sights bounce around too much for me
 
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