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Battlefield 3 | Console Community Thread | Pleasant Entertainment
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Aaaaaaah... thanks a lot!!!
You solved one of the misteries of this game for me, hahahaha...
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I sopt and sometimes it doesn't work (PS3)
It does. I think the T-UGS has a slightly longer range though.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Not exactly.. T-UGS is a bit easier to hide and not as big as a MAV
Yeah, but the mav is more versatile. You can park it on unreachable places and even on places where the enemy will have trouble shooting it.
Maybe faceless or seks can confirm this but I don't remember hearing a beeping sound when I'm close to an enemy mav like when I'm close to a t-ugs.
Dreamgazer
Member
Post patch, MAV and t-ugs are now suppose have the same range.
Although some still claim that the MAV's range is larger (was actually 25% longer pre-patch)
MAV has an obvious beep also. Although I'm not sure if it's proximity adjusted like the t-ugs.
The T-ugs beeps louder as enemy approaches it, making it the preferred tool for camping snipers who can't focus on their map.
T-ugs vs. MAV:
T-ugs
Pro: The T-ugs' scan is constantly on. Any moving target running at faster than crouching speed within its range will be constantly displayed on map. It is also much difficult to spot, since you can't see the player's name unless the cross-hair is exactly pointing at the tiem.
Con: The t-ugs will not detect anyone who is crouching, in prone or moving at a slow enough speed.
MAV
Pro: MAV is able to scan any moving target regardless of speed. MAV can also be moved to inaccessible areas. Furthermore, it can be used to 3D spot when in flight, while still maintaining its general AOE. Other stuff: destroy enemy equipment, detonate enemy claymores, ram a chopper blade <3)
Con: MAV scans in sweeps. In other words, it'll scan your enemy for 1-2 seconds, and then they'll be off the mini-map until the next sweep. MAVs are much easier to spot, not just because of its size, but also because it has a more reflective surface (brighter in dark areas.)
Personally I use the MAV more just because it's easier to pick up + no worrying about movement speed. I rarely have my motion sensor destroyed (position it well), so its size is never a concern for me.
Although some still claim that the MAV's range is larger (was actually 25% longer pre-patch)
MAV has an obvious beep also. Although I'm not sure if it's proximity adjusted like the t-ugs.
The T-ugs beeps louder as enemy approaches it, making it the preferred tool for camping snipers who can't focus on their map.
T-ugs vs. MAV:
T-ugs
Pro: The T-ugs' scan is constantly on. Any moving target running at faster than crouching speed within its range will be constantly displayed on map. It is also much difficult to spot, since you can't see the player's name unless the cross-hair is exactly pointing at the tiem.
Con: The t-ugs will not detect anyone who is crouching, in prone or moving at a slow enough speed.
MAV
Pro: MAV is able to scan any moving target regardless of speed. MAV can also be moved to inaccessible areas. Furthermore, it can be used to 3D spot when in flight, while still maintaining its general AOE. Other stuff: destroy enemy equipment, detonate enemy claymores, ram a chopper blade <3)
Con: MAV scans in sweeps. In other words, it'll scan your enemy for 1-2 seconds, and then they'll be off the mini-map until the next sweep. MAVs are much easier to spot, not just because of its size, but also because it has a more reflective surface (brighter in dark areas.)
Personally I use the MAV more just because it's easier to pick up + no worrying about movement speed. I rarely have my motion sensor destroyed (position it well), so its size is never a concern for me.
Thanks man, really needed this info! Still have no idea how the average player is meant to know all this. Where did you get this info from?
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
They are simply not, and they won't know unless they read about it online. DICE lack of a tutorial is a complete joke and the average joe probably has no idea what half the things are in BF3 multi. Not to mention the major changes that happen with patches, unless you are on the forums, you have no idea.
Really need a better tutorial and an in-game way to communicate to players about updates and changes made to the game. I am convinced the lack of those are by design and exactly what DICE wants though.
Dreamgazer
Member
Uh...how do you think people know about these thing?
Do you think Dice has some all access guide to BF3 somewhere?
Players tested it out to learn this stuff, like no one taught faceless his out-of-bound tactics.
That being said, the mortar is so unappreciated in rush
Do you think Dice has some all access guide to BF3 somewhere?
Players tested it out to learn this stuff, like no one taught faceless his out-of-bound tactics.
That being said, the mortar is so unappreciated in rush
The Faceless Master
Member
there's so much basic stuff that people just don't know. a tutorial would help.
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
I've got an idea. How about short tips in between loading screens! Brilliant! Certainly that will suffice to properly inform players of the nuances of BF3.
Because it got nerfed and is pretty much crap now. Hit marker. Hit marker. Hit marker. No medic boxes. So they're either healing faster or the damage is dismal.
I remember when I could 4-shot a tank with the mortar if they didn't move and two-shot disable it. Now it seems impossible to even do that.
Old Gimlet Eyes said:
Except even those aren't accurate: Squad Perks only stack AFTER YOU SPAWN. So the first person to spawn in the game before the others in that squad gets only THEIR perk until they respawn. The loading screen makes it seem it's automatic and will stack as soon as someone chooses a different perk and spawns. No such thing.
Honestly, the only thing they need to explain is the fucking spot button and kit item deployment. Anything else can be gotten via trial and error.
Also the MAV range has been nerfed to where it isn't the "go-to" beacon anymore. You do have an advantage in using it for hard to reach areas (but on the downside having to refly it to those areas if you get killed and not revived) where the T-UGS can't reach, but the T-UGS is smaller and can be placed up a floor or down a floor and thus "see" where people are. If you hide them in the dark or hard to see areas they're impossible to find at times.
Dreamgazer
Member
Yeah, but it's so useful against "all defenders near m-com" tactics on non-vehicle maps. Pop the m-com up, and I easily get 3-4 kills in those scenarios + help the team arm and destroy. Also wish people pulled up the mortar more when I have the mav up.
The smokes useful, but there's no kill ability. I do what you say and all I get are hit markers now after it got nerfed. It's pure WTF. I can understand nerfing it to deter spam. But I can hit two markers in the area and not get a kill (or at least damage them enough to where a third pop if they're still disarming kills them) is crazy and why I haven't carried it. Screw that shit.
Hey, guys. Thanks to all of you for helping me to clarify the differences between MAV and T-UGS.
My last games as recon using the MAV I was the best recon and that with 0 kills, hehehe. I got a lot of motion sensor ribbons, so my general level went up a lot.
It is wonderful that you can use the MAV to deactivate enemy gadgets... and my jaw dropped when I discovered you can deactivate enemy claymores!!!
This game is fantastic <3
My last games as recon using the MAV I was the best recon and that with 0 kills, hehehe. I got a lot of motion sensor ribbons, so my general level went up a lot.
It is wonderful that you can use the MAV to deactivate enemy gadgets... and my jaw dropped when I discovered you can deactivate enemy claymores!!!
This game is fantastic <3
Dreamgazer
Member
Olimpia:
That PYR clan has got to be the shittiest clan I've ever dealt with. Ignoring that whole useless squad thing on Dpeak. Someone (mbopy22) from your your team even switched over, so they can figure out where I'm placing the beacons (at which point I quickly moved it and killed a bunch of morons who went for the old spot.) Talk about freaking shady...
Then the next game, they all joined up together to team stack. Half way through, they start losing all the flags and almost got spawn camped at C. This whole time, one lonely recon was sitting in A, waiting 20 minutes for someone to spawn in and help cap. Thank god rockscar joined on that game.
That PYR clan has got to be the shittiest clan I've ever dealt with. Ignoring that whole useless squad thing on Dpeak. Someone (mbopy22) from your your team even switched over, so they can figure out where I'm placing the beacons (at which point I quickly moved it and killed a bunch of morons who went for the old spot.) Talk about freaking shady...
Then the next game, they all joined up together to team stack. Half way through, they start losing all the flags and almost got spawn camped at C. This whole time, one lonely recon was sitting in A, waiting 20 minutes for someone to spawn in and help cap. Thank god rockscar joined on that game.
The Faceless Master
Member
you think it's bad now? wait until school's out for summer!
lostsupper
Banned
I'm committed to doing the "Drop 'em like Liquid" achievement this weekend. Can I interest anyone in some swearing and mission restarts?
The Faceless Master
Member
i wish you the best. i had to do it twice and i'd rather be spawn trapped as the US on Metro.
olimpia84
Member
lol, they are definitely not the best around. The reason I switched during that game is because I was helping my non-gaffer friend (marcePY) since he had some kind of bet with a PyR guy in your squad (his name was ciclonxever or something like that). The reason mbopy switched sides was to find out where this ciclone guy was so they could take his dogtag. It was definitely one of the most boring games in my BF career but at least I added some points to my scout heli stats.
If I weren't currently out of town, I'd venture with you to the depth of hell.
Oh, come on: It wasn't that bad with me.
Not really. GAF got banned off one because we turned their three flag bleed around to win. Bunch of butthurt losers.
The Faceless Master
Member
it was that bad both times. and it's not you, it's just that specific mission is just badly designed and implemented.
Dreamgazer
Member
facless: I wish gaf can play dpeak defense like that round
You tell a fucking recon to put down motion sensors, and he became a mav whore.
Fucking no win.
then it's always the same fucking shit with rush. No one wants to stay near the m-com, watch dream take on 5 guys and a fucking tank.
Where is everyone else? "frontlines", driving the vehicle away from the base. flying in a fucking useless chopper.
It's the same as always. If I'm in the top 3, that mean the defenses are shit.
You tell a fucking recon to put down motion sensors, and he became a mav whore.
Fucking no win.
then it's always the same fucking shit with rush. No one wants to stay near the m-com, watch dream take on 5 guys and a fucking tank.
Where is everyone else? "frontlines", driving the vehicle away from the base. flying in a fucking useless chopper.
It's the same as always. If I'm in the top 3, that mean the defenses are shit.
Rubbish King
The gift that keeps on giving
Same as my gaf handle.
I wont be on tonight though...
Dream! I missed out!? Crap!
finally got around to adding you and you apparently have a full friends list! Mr popular i see!
Any ps3 GAF on?
If you are on ps3 i will happily do it with you, i dont have mic though so you'll need skype or steam chat etc
EDIT: ahhh achievement...
Dreamgazer
Member
You're going to find that problem with most of us >.>
just drop a message and people will try to make some room.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I had no idea I was full up... I'll trim some fat later. Please resend.
I'm terribly addicted to Dragon's Dogma at the moment though... probably won't be on BF for a couple more days. Game is so awesome I can't stop playing. My irl friends are probably going to send a search party out for me, since I've barely surfaced for air since getting it.
The Faceless Master
Member
hahahaha oh wow... i had to break out the M26 Dart again... for some reason half of the other team was using it!
I haven't seen the m26 dart in a while actually, quite good.
What on PS3 or 360?
I'm jonesing for some Oman bad. GODDAMN IT ISP, FIX MY CONNECTION ALREADY.
So I can also grind the last 3000 kills I need in BC1 for platinum and can put it to rest. *sigh*
New job is going to throw a wrench in my playtime(s). Gonna focus on BC1 mostly since there's fewer players while also getting the CQC achievements (if any) when CQC launches but a month later. *sigh*
AlmostMilk
Member
It's really disappointing that we have to choose between power tripping admins and in game glitch bs. If I join a dice server, it's M26 Dart city. If I join a custom server, I get kicked for dominating the other team.
adamsappel
Member
I got killed by a USAS-12 with frag rounds last night. I guess he didn't get the memo. And even though the 870 got a frag buff, I don't think I've ever been killed by it.
Rubbish King
The gift that keeps on giving
Dreamgazer
Member
That's the sad thing.
USAS-12/M26-DART is forever tainted.
You'll look like a scrub using it even if it get fixed.
Better yet, I saw someone commit suicide with a USAS a couple of days ago!
Now that takes some effort.
The Faceless Master
Member
nah, dart won't be tainted when it's fixed. it'll be like FAMAS...
I personally hate getting my dog tags taken. It's like oh hey you're ass wasn't paying attention to your surroundings and now you're getting fucked up for it.
plus i love my 7 star knife
I imagine most of you guys have already seen this:
PS3 Gaf, what's your instance in this package? Are you guys getting it?
I'm not proud to admit that I'll buy it. It's 15 bucks per map pack if you disregard B2K which most of us already own. I would probably get then all without the extras.
I hope enough of you guys bite the bullet, I'm not looking forward to play mostly with randoms.
I've been playing Diablo a lot lately, and Max Payne too but I'm missing steamrolling with GAF.
PS3 Gaf, what's your instance in this package? Are you guys getting it?
I'm not proud to admit that I'll buy it. It's 15 bucks per map pack if you disregard B2K which most of us already own. I would probably get then all without the extras.
I hope enough of you guys bite the bullet, I'm not looking forward to play mostly with randoms.
I've been playing Diablo a lot lately, and Max Payne too but I'm missing steamrolling with GAF.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
There are boats under kharg island now =/
FUCK. I better get on that for boat service stars before they patch it like I did Vietnam.
No I didn't