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[AlmostMilk]

They just said in the stream that in hardcore mode for BF4, your bullet count in your clips are remembered so if you shoot and reload without using all the bullets, you will have to reload to that clip and only have the amount of bullets left in the clip. Not always a full clip reload. Pretty nice feature.

 

[OdysseusVA]

They just said in the stream that in hardcore mode for BF4, your bullet count in your clips are remembered so if you shoot and reload without using all the bullets, you will have to reload to that clip and only have the amount of bullets left in the clip. Not always a full clip reload. Pretty nice feature.

Are they currently playing Hardcore? I noticed that yesterday and thought it was a neat addition.

 

[burnfout]

They just said in the stream that in hardcore mode for BF4, your bullet count in your clips are remembered so if you shoot and reload without using all the bullets, you will have to reload to that clip and only have the amount of bullets left in the clip. Not always a full clip reload. Pretty nice feature.

Only in hardcore mode.

 

[TheSeks]

They just said in the stream that in hardcore mode for BF4, your bullet count in your clips are remembered so if you shoot and reload without using all the bullets, you will have to reload to that clip and only have the amount of bullets left in the clip. Not always a full clip reload. Pretty nice feature.

Too bad with the way the game plays/you'll be spawning too often for that to be impacting you.

Unless you're playing sniper-dick, which I guess is possible since it's RuinsBattlefieldCore...

 

[lostsupper]

They just said in the stream that in hardcore mode for BF4, your bullet count in your clips are remembered so if you shoot and reload without using all the bullets, you will have to reload to that clip and only have the amount of bullets left in the clip. Not always a full clip reload. Pretty nice feature.

Magazine.

 

[AlmostMilk]

Too bad with the way the game plays/you'll be spawning too often for that to be impacting you.

Unless you're playing sniper-dick, which I guess is possible since it's RuinsBattlefieldCore...

Maybe. It seems like a lot of people playing are running out of ammo quite frequently. The commander keeps failing to drop ammo for the team. Also, is sprint not unlimited anymore?

Magazine.

Whatever. You know what I mean.

 

[tn2007]

Too bad with the way the game plays/you'll be spawning too often for that to be impacting you.

Unless you're playing sniper-dick, which I guess is possible since it's RuinsBattlefieldCore...

Sorry I run through ammo with ammo perk all the time. When you play with 64 players you will understand.

 

[Evolved1]

Magazine.

Maybe he's talking about handguns!

 

[TheSeks]

Sorry I run through ammo with ammo perk all the time. When you play with 64 players you will understand.

Unless you're surviving with suppressing going on, you're missing my point.

If you're PTFO and dying way before that point, it's basically pointless to have that mechanic.

If you're camping and sitting in area, sure: It's neat... I guess... but for most people they're going to be dying way before that point.

 

[lostsupper]

Maybe he's talking about handguns!

Still a magazine.

Also, signing on. Bros!

 

[OdysseusVA]

Maybe he's talking about handguns!

Still, it's magazine.


Edit: You, sumbitch

 

[TheSeks]

Still a magazine.

Also, signing on. Bros!

Correct, unless it's a LMG or the Garand (sup BC2/1943) Then it's a clip.

From here.

 

[OdysseusVA]

My Gold expired lol Anyone have a trial they don't plan on using?

 

[AlmostMilk]

My Gold expired lol Anyone have a trial they don't plan on using?

Dude, just buy another year.

 

[Evolved1]

Huh... weird, when I did my 235 cert we called them clips. Instructor made a point about it actually.

Eh... learn something new everyday I guess.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Dude, just buy another year.

I should since I'm getting the Day 1 Edition of Xbone

 

[lostsupper]

Correct, unless it's a LMG or the Garand (sup BC2/1943) Then it's a clip.

From here.

Sort of. A clip is a tool that loads internal magazines, like those in an M1 or bolt rifle.

 

[AlmostMilk]

I should since I'm getting the Day 1 Edition of Xbone

Thought everyone here was PS4PS4PS4? and that's not until November.

Sort of. A clip is a tool that loads internal magazines, like those in an M1 or bolt rifle.

Clip is a slang term for a magazine. This is a useless debate.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Thought everyone here was PS4PS4PS4? and that's not until November.

People changed their mind once they saw the advantages and value.

Clip is a slang term for a magazine. This is a useless debate.

This requires a serious discussion.

 

[vixlar]

Unless you're surviving with suppressing going on, you're missing my point.

If you're PTFO and dying way before that point, it's basically pointless to have that mechanic.

If you're camping and sitting in area, sure: It's neat... I guess... but for most people they're going to be dying way before that point.

I really think soldiers carry too many bullets on BF3. I remember Bad Company 2 that it was a pain to grab an engineer because you finish your bullets too soon. And you should keep stealing weapons. In this game I think I've been out of bullets like three or four times. Not more. And that's without the extra bullets perk.

 

[lostsupper]

Ody, we can scratch up some Live for you.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Ody, we can scratch up some Live for you.

?

 

[TheSeks]

I really think soldiers carry too many bullets on BF3. I remember Bad Company 2 that it was a pain to grab an engineer because you finish your bullets too soon. And you should keep stealing weapons. In this game I think I've been out of bullets like three or four times. Not more. And that's without the extra bullets perk.

I've ran into a bunch of "no ammo" situations... suppressing. SKS on defense has like 58 rounds in reserve, 38 rounds in the magazine. I think ammo just gives you 10-20% more so that'd be... like... 80 or so rounds in reserve. Whoopie? Running out of ammo is easy there. But for support/LMG? I dunno outside of suppression/camping times.

But that's my point: Most people aren't going to see that situation so including it in a "hardcore"/higher damage mode is pointless. This isn't a "skill" thing that THN wants to dickwave in, this is big-picture observation of how most games and players play out.

 

[The Faceless Master]

I really think soldiers carry too many bullets on BF3. I remember Bad Company 2 that it was a pain to grab an engineer because you finish your bullets too soon. And you should keep stealing weapons. In this game I think I've been out of bullets like three or four times. Not more. And that's without the extra bullets perk.

nah, any time you get on a good kill streak, ammo becomes scarce.

 

[tn2007]

I've ran into a bunch of "no ammo" situations... suppressing. SKS on defense has like 58 rounds in reserve, 38 rounds in the magazine. I think ammo just gives you 10-20% more so that'd be... like... 80 or so rounds in reserve. Whoopie? Running out of ammo is easy there. But for support/LMG? I dunno outside of suppression/camping times.

But that's my point: Most people aren't going to see that situation so including it in a "hardcore"/higher damage mode is pointless. This isn't a "skill" thing that THN wants to dickwave in, this is big-picture observation of how most games and players play out.

Sorry but my point was about player count. More players = more stuff to shoot at = need more ammo. But than you had to bring up skills as if you even had any. Anyways big picture the clip thing should only be hardcore mode. BF3 already has a problem with people dropping ammo so why make a bigger problem out of it. I hope just Faceless comes to PC because I can just see the amount of whining your gonna be posting when you get your shit pushed in. But if you do come I'll make sure I shit on you like I did on PS3 and make you rage quit like always/or switch to the winning team. Can someone tell me if PTFO means quitting on your team or changing teams? If so SEKS PTFOs all the time.

 

[Rebel Leader]

nah, any time you get on a good kill streak, ammo becomes scarce.

yep. we're speaking from experience

 

[Evolved1]

Sorry but my point was about player count. More players = more stuff to shoot at = need more ammo. But than you had to bring up skills as if you even had any. Anyways big picture the clip thing should only be hardcore mode. BF3 already has a problem with people dropping ammo so why make a bigger problem out of it. I hope just Faceless comes to PC because I can just see the amount of whining your gonna be posting when you get your shit pushed in. But if you do come I'll make sure I shit on you like I did on PS3 and make you rage quit like always/or switch to the winning team. Can someone tell me if PTFO means quitting on your team or changing teams? If so SEKS PTFOs all the time.

I think PTFO means "play the fucking objective".

And btw tn2007... you better get a PS4!

 

[TheSeks]

I love how THN continues to dickwave his skill while completely missing the point.

Even with higher player counts (more so with higher player counts!) players are going to die before running out of ammo. The gimmick DICE is introducing is pointless. Hardcore damage rate being lower than the standard means you're going to be burning less ammo in general and possibly dying way before the ammo burns out anyway.

It doesn't matter if there's more players or less players the damage rate is going to be the same the maps are probably going to be the same the chokepoints/etc. are going to be the same and at the end of the day 95% of players aren't going to run into that gimmick/situation.

 

[The Faceless Master]

I love how THN continues to dickwave his skill while completely missing the point.

Even with higher player counts (more so with higher player counts!) players are going to die before running out of ammo. The gimmick DICE is introducing is pointless. Hardcore damage rate being lower than the standard means you're going to be burning less ammo in general and possibly dying way before the ammo burns out anyway.

It doesn't matter if there's more players or less players the damage rate is going to be the same the maps are probably going to be the same the chokepoints/etc. are going to be the same and at the end of the day 95% of players aren't going to run into that gimmick/situation.

but you're better than 95% of players and you will run into that situation. it's not just a gimmick for you.

 

[lostsupper]

Tn2007 and TheSeks need to hug it out.

 

[vixlar]

nah, any time you get on a good kill streak, ammo becomes scarce.

Oh, that explains it all :-( (no killstreaks for vixlar)

But with bullet boxes being infinite now, is not difficult to find one over there.

 

[TheSeks]

ANYWAY Faceless, Dream, Rock, Bo, Toda: If ya'll want to play 1943 tomorrow or Saturday I'm free to do that. Just send a message on PSN to let me know.

 

[Evolved1]

Anyone up for a bit of no-map hardcore? I'm in the mood for some slower-paced shenanigans.

 

[tn2007]

I think PTFO means "play the fucking objective".

And btw tn2007... you better get a PS4!

I preorder the day it became available on amazon. And I know what ptfo means.

 

[tn2007]

I love how THN continues to dickwave his skill while completely missing the point.

Even with higher player counts (more so with higher player counts!) players are going to die before running out of ammo. The gimmick DICE is introducing is pointless. Hardcore damage rate being lower than the standard means you're going to be burning less ammo in general and possibly dying way before the ammo burns out anyway.

It doesn't matter if there's more players or less players the damage rate is going to be the same the maps are probably going to be the same the chokepoints/etc. are going to be the same and at the end of the day 95% of players aren't going to run into that gimmick/situation.

You only die if you run around like a fucking retard. If you take your time and get picks, you will have kill streaks and eventually run out of ammo. Again my point was that 90% of the people that play BF3 are already bad so why make it worst by adding stupid gimmicks. But than again you were the smart guy that wants to remove stats. Which is something all the noobs say.

Btw SEKs why don't you go reset your stats again since you don't care about your stats.

 

[Overdoziz]

 

[The Faceless Master]

so yeah, i dunno... i might go for a PS4 since i know everyone will have one... but i'm still gonna go for PC. and maybe i'll win an Xbox console for a third time in a row!?

 

[Rebel Leader]

so yeah, i dunno... i might go for a PS4 since i know everyone will have one... but i'm still gonna go for PC. and maybe i'll win an Xbox console for a third time in a row!?

and sell it?

 

[TheSeks]

I dunno why you'd want to win the new X-box... The exclusives there aren't really worth the pain in the ass DRM. :/

 

[AlexBasch]

Got back into BF3 after a long hiatus thanks to the Souls games.

And now I'm losing CTF games in five minutes.

Maybe the Souls games weren't the reason I took a break from this.

 

[Liquidsnake]

Guys can you help me:

Is the party system still broken?

I wanted to know if I can party up with a friend, and play MP stick together post match and just keep playing.

Possible?

 

[TheSeks]

Guys can you help me:

Is the party system still broken?

I wanted to know if I can party up with a friend, and play MP stick together post match and just keep playing.

Possible?

If a squad of 2-4, yes. Anything above that it'll split your "party" to be even on both sides. The party system itself isn't "broken." The auto-balance is what breaks it.

 

[Liquidsnake]

If a squad of 2-4, yes. Anything above that it'll split your "party" to be even on both sides. The party system itself isn't "broken." The auto-balance is what breaks it.

Thanks man, its just the two of us.

 

[TheSeks]

Thanks man, its just the two of us.

Do note that if you're joining a server that is even balanced it will split you in regards to filling the last two slots (11 on each team and you two are joining will make 12 on both sides). This is the auto-balance that is doing it in general, not the party-system.

Tn2007 and TheSeks need to hug it out.

Anyway Dreamy, Faceless, Rock, Bo: 1943 around 2-3PM tomorrow, yes? yes?

 

[lostsupper]

It sure seems like you both care given the amount of beef you're airing here.

 

[Dreamgazer]

Anyway Dreamy, Faceless, Rock, Bo: 1943 around 2-3PM tomorrow, yes? yes?

I got work at 2-3 pm.

Also abu confirmed that he's getting a ps4 next gen.

Can someone tell me if PTFO means quitting on your team or changing teams? If so SEKS PTFOs all the time.

The TanKing is right you know.

 

[TheSeks]

Ah, so it'd have to be after 5 tomorrow then. I dunno if Rock is able to do that but I know Bo is.

 

[The Faceless Master]

and sell it?

no, i'd keep it.

I dunno why you'd want to win the new X-box... The exclusives there aren't really worth the pain in the ass DRM. :/

if i got the console for free, i could see myself trying Titanfall. that game looks really interesting!

Ah, so it'd have to be after 5 tomorrow then. I dunno if Rock is able to do that but I know Bo is.

i'm in!

 

[TheSeks]

if i got the console for free, i could see myself trying Titanfall. that game looks really interesting!

Going to be available on PC anyway. B)

i'm in!

DATS one. And you say you're in so you better be there anyway if Rock, Dream and Bo don't show up.

(And we should play some BC1 sometime to record Deconstruction)

 

[Evolved1]

I got work at 2-3 pm.

Also abu confirmed that he's getting a ps4 next gen.

Now we just need to get Crak to come back... it's going to be ridiculous having PS360GAF on one side, all at once.

We're gonna be like Voltron, but instead of combining to form robot guy it'll be a giant steamroller.