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Battlefield 4 |OT| Prepare to Leave Beta... Nevermind

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PC R11 update details, also another major update coming next week.

R11 PC SERVER UPDATE CHANGE LIST
-Fixed a common server crash
-Fixed an exploit where a player could get unlimited ammo on mortars by redeploying them
-Fixed an issue where your score displayed in the scoreboard was cut in half during double xp events
-Removed the possibility for server admins to kick players on official servers by using PunkBuster
-Game mode counter can now be set up to 400% for Ranked servers and 500% for Unranked servers. In addition, idle time out can now be set up to 86 400 (24 hours) for both server types
More here.
 

TheOther

Neo Member
"-Fixed an exploit where a player could get unlimited ammo on mortars by redeploying them"

I had a feeling it was not supposed to work that way... =)
 

excaliburps

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"-Fixed an exploit where a player could get unlimited ammo on mortars by redeploying them"

I had a feeling it was not supposed to work that way... =)

Yep. So annoying being constantly spammed with no consequences.

not sure if posted but commander mode is live on google play. ( requires tablet that is at least 7")

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.game.warsawcommander_row

apparently it also works on mobile but its buggy. have not tried it on my HTC One since its 700MB etc

Going to try this on my Nexus 4! Haha! Hope it works!

EDIT: Frick! Says device isn't compatible! So "7 needed...kinda like porn.
 

TheOther

Neo Member
Yep. So annoying being constantly spammed with no consequences.



Going to try this on my Nexus 4! Haha! Hope it works!

EDIT: Frick! Says device isn't compatible! So "7 needed...kinda like porn.

Ye, tablet only apparently :/ a shame, pretty sure it'd be a fine experience on phones as well.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
PC R11 update details, also another major update coming next week.

More here.

-Fixed an exploit where a player could get unlimited ammo on mortars by redeploying them

Wasn't that already fixed? You CAN'T get a mortar from ammo boxes now. To "exploit" the ammo issue, you have to go to your mortar, pick it up. Quickly redeploy it and then get back into cover to shoot it some more.

Unless that's what they mean. In which case the mortar just got even more useless.

This is so true.
I haven't seen anyone get past the first set of objectives. Everyone just camps on the ship in nooks and crannies sniping all the people swimming to the carrier.

I have. On 64 AND 32 player servers.

Use the boats, RUSH the objectives, and for the love of god abuse the hell out of the attack boat while keeping it up.

Seen all the sets about 10 times on PC now.

On 64-players it's harder because of more players, but it isn't a terrible Rush map. You want terrible? Go to Hainan Resort and get back to me. I've only seen the full-sets ONCE and only seen second set five times in the 50 rounds I've played on that map. Attackers have NO chance if the AA is good and the defense grabs the RHIB's and swivels the guns around to where it 1) prevents the RHIB's from respawning on the attackers side and 2) gives infinite ammo machine guns to pick off swimmers and hammer the helicopters along with the AA.

And on 64-players it's BANANAS because the defense is so packed into that small area it's literally impossible to go anywhere without running into an enemy within microseconds.
 

TheOther

Neo Member
Wasn't that already fixed? You CAN'T get a mortar from ammo boxes now. To "exploit" the ammo issue, you have to go to your mortar, pick it up. Quickly redeploy it and then get back into cover to shoot it some more.

Unless that's what they mean. In which case the mortar just got even more useless.

I'd assume that's what they mean.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
I'd assume that's what they mean.

Mortar as useful as a wetfart like BF3's, confirmed.

I can launch three volleys at a tank and not disable it like I can in BF3. WTF DICE? And now you're not gonna let me respawn it or get more ammo for it? Pass.
 

MDSLKTR

Member
Any chance of Dice patching some AA in the ps4 version? Killzone spoiled me... Game is amazing when it works tough, bought the digital version so I'm glad I'm stuck with it.
 

Cyborg

Member
Aim with L2, shoot with R2. Basically, the triggers. They're the best triggers I've ever used on a controller. Still not as good as L1/R1 :(



I just reaally miss the responsiveness of R1...

But on the PS3 version you can shoot with R1 and aim with L1.
 

dkeane

Member
Can't believe this is still completely broken on PS4. Tried to play games last night and was kicked every single match. And I don't even try to play conquest anymore.
How a game like this gets shipped is beyond me. What a clusterfuck.
Never would have got it if I knew it'd be this bad. I'm used to Battefield having bugs for a while after release, but this is unplayable.
 
Mortar is ridiculously good on flood zone. I found the machine gun turret by E is also really useful as you can hit a good section of the rooftop. People are usually so focused on other players running around that they don't see either of these coming.
 
Mortar is ridiculously good on flood zone. I found the machine gun turret by E is also really useful as you can hit a good section of the rooftop. People are usually so focused on other players running around that they don't see either of these coming.

I never really used it much in BF3 but I am really enjoying it in this one. I like how they seem to be a little random on where they hit. If you land some hits on a tank or apc it does some decent damage.
 

Spl1nter

Member
Seks you havent played hainan resort rush with me than. I have won on it multiple times. You have to start out strong with a good initial push and have a recon with squad beacon. Also littlebird with 2 guys with javelin or sraw can take out the aa.
 

Naked Lunch

Member
It sucks but this is all par for the course for DICE. The BF games rarely work at launch. Usually takes them a month to get it up and running. Its been that way since BF Vietnam on PC. BF2's launch was atrocious with hot fix patch after hot fix patch - in recent years, 1943 and BC2 barely worked at launch either.

Somehow by some miracle BF3 launched without many hitches and I thought DICE finally righted the ship. No go with 4. I love Battlefield so much that I put up with it . My friends always try to take a day off from work for a Battlefield launch - but we all know better - that shit aint going to work.

Once they finally do get the actual game working - it will be unbalanced as hell. The gameplay patches usually take DICE 6 months at the least to get it acceptable. Just how DICE rolls...
 

93xfan

Banned
Usually I don't go this route... but when a company screws over their consumers this much, they owe something to their fans aside from just getting it fixed.

Their has to be something given on their end that shows that they know this isn't acceptable. Give us a 6th map pack for free. Give us money off of BF5 premium. I don't care what it is, as long as it costs them something. It will be a good reminder for an arrogant company that bragged about pulling it all together and avoiding a delay.
 

Jito

Banned
Wow the mortar is so fucking useless now, you get 5 shots with it then have to wait for it to reload the ammo. No one used them in the first place and now no one at all is going to use one!
 

Tak3n

Banned
PC R11 update details, also another major update coming next week.


More here.



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Fixed the Mortar Bug :(

I went from Skill division 7 to division 3 using that Mortar, was decimating the maps, I can not believe out of all the bugs they fixed that as a priority

On the other hand it will be nice to get back to shooting a gun again
 

Bombless

Member
Can't wait for the Xbone players to join this glorious thread of game instability.

Also, that mortar change...I haven't actually used it more than a few episodic times. 2 hits kills with a ridiculously short ammo to start with makes it laughable enough already.
 

EVIL

Member
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Fixed the Mortar Bug :(

I went from Skill division 7 to division 3 using that Mortar, was decimating the maps, I can not believe out of all the bugs they fixed that as a priority

On the other hand it will be nice to get back to shooting a gun again

was probably a very easy bug to fix.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Seks you havent played hainan resort rush with me than. I have won on it multiple times. You have to start out strong with a good initial push and have a recon with squad beacon. Also littlebird with 2 guys with javelin or sraw can take out the aa.

YOU NEVER PLAY RUSH!

What is this!? What is this lie!?

Jito said:
Wow the mortar is so fucking useless now, you get 5 shots with it then have to wait for it to reload the ammo. No one used them in the first place and now no one at all is going to use one!

BF3 all over again. I honestly don't know why DICE included them in the first place. Pre-nerf in BF3 they were annoying. Then once you played around with them post nerf as an anti-tank/LAV stealing tech, they became something of their own.

But hassling Infantry? Get out, they don't do enough damage kill.

And now in BF4 they hit random spots from where you target (so no more precision hitting tanks in the ass to disable quickly tank stealers), and need 2-3 hits on infantry to kill them.

And now can't respawn. Or get ammo quick enough to use them effectively.

Fuck it.
 

scogoth

Member
It sucks but this is all par for the course for DICE. The BF games rarely work at launch. Usually takes them a month to get it up and running. Its been that way since BF Vietnam on PC. BF2's launch was atrocious with hot fix patch after hot fix patch - in recent years, 1943 and BC2 barely worked at launch either.

Somehow by some miracle BF3 launched without many hitches and I thought DICE finally righted the ship. No go with 4. I love Battlefield so much that I put up with it . My friends always try to take a day off from work for a Battlefield launch - but we all know better - that shit aint going to work.

Once they finally do get the actual game working - it will be unbalanced as hell. The gameplay patches usually take DICE 6 months at the least to get it acceptable. Just how DICE rolls...

Wut?

You could still ground glitch for the first two weeks after launch. That alone makes it one of the most broken launches.
 

aro52

Member
Aim with L2, shoot with R2. Basically, the triggers. They're the best triggers I've ever used on a controller. Still not as good as L1/R1 :(

I just reaally miss the responsiveness of R1...

I'm actually ok with L2+R2 on PS4, and made the transition pretty quickly. (and I played A LOT of BF3/BF4 on PS3)
I think it helps that your finger naturally rest on the triggers now. Just need to train the brain to move UP for grenades and spot.
 

Tak3n

Banned
People are saying on the Dice forums that the PC patch has made them crash even more...

But don't worry, you wont get killed by a Mortar :)
 
The china rising assignments and associated weaponry and equipment are now displayed in battlelog.

Lots of references to bombing raids and bombers. Is that for the UCAV? SUAV? Or something else...?

EDIT: Battlefield 4 Wikia lists the Bomber as a new vehicle. Bomber planes?
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Yeah... no conquest = no battlefield. Rush, TDM, DOM lol please... i also own COD and it does similar much better.

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Conquest is fine but it gets majorly boring. Give me Sabo/Obliteration or Rush over it anyday.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Wait seks, you saying obliteration is good? Isnt that mode infantry only?
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Wait seks, you saying obliteration is good? Isnt that mode infantry only?

...No? It's LAV/Helicopter/Tanks and infantry.

CoD's Sabotage/Oblieration is "infantry only" but that's because it's CoD.

Here the vehicles play an important role of protecting the bomb carrier or transporting them.

You haven't played it? It's probably the best new addition to the series.

Defuse is "Seach and Destroy" from Call of Duty but it's not grabbing me like S&D did in CoD4.

Nope. It's best with vehicle maps, IMO.

No way man... Infantry only in Sabo can be as good as the vehicle maps.

That's probably the one time Operation Locker was fun for me. Zig-zagging with the bomb across the map to avoid people chasing me all the way to C and arming it.
 

Big_Al

Unconfirmed Member
I've been surprisingly really enjoying the infantry only modes in BF4. I especially love Domination, it's such a fun, quick. intense experience. The destruction just makes things even more fun. I like all the modes really from what I've played. Operation Locker is a blast on 16 player pistol only domination.
 

Grief.exe

Member
Conquest used to be my favorite mode, but I have only been playing Domination due to BF4 not having any good infantry maps.

I need to play more obliteration.
 
So a few questions;
Can you create a party either in or out of the game then join a server and have everyone on your squad/same team? Super frustrating to see a friend in a game only to see yourself on the opposite side of the battlefield.

How do I set up shots with the camera on the a10? By the time I got the lock on and fire, the missile goes over them
 

Zomba13

Member
I can't seem to play this anymore. Battle log has an update, I download it and run it and cant connect to any games, it just wants me to update every time I try and join a game.
 

kudoboi

Member
Going to try this on my Nexus 4! Haha! Hope it works!

EDIT: Frick! Says device isn't compatible! So "7 needed...kinda like porn.

it doesn't officially support phones. you would have to sideload it. someone said it works on nexus 5 but zooming and some buttons doesnt work
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
So a few questions;
Can you create a party either in or out of the game then join a server and have everyone on your squad/same team? Super frustrating to see a friend in a game only to see yourself on the opposite side of the battlefield.

No. You have to do it like you said: Join and pray there is space on their team. Yes, it sucks.

You can join them however and if there's space on their team it'll let you over there... but at the cost of breaking them from their squad (of friends, most likely) to put them with YOU in a new squad.

Terrible.

Zomba13 said:
I can't seem to play this anymore. Battle log has an update, I download it and run it and cant connect to any games, it just wants me to update every time I try and join a game.

Not just me then. Guess I go back to playing Payday tonight instead of playing BF4?
 

Zomba13

Member
Not just me then. Guess I go back to playing Payday tonight instead of playing BF4?

I still don't get why the fuck Battle log is an actual fucking website with a plugin and not just the main menu of the game. When you want to play have it launch via the game and if you want to look at your stats and other shit online have them on a website like what Bungie did with Halo.
This just causes more problems than it's worth.

EDIT: I've appeared to fix it. Tried removing/uninstalling the battle log via control panel and reinstalling, didn't work. Went into the addons section (firefox) and into plugins and saw that it wasn't showing up right. Was like it wasn't installed correctly. Removed it from the list, re run the install and refreshed and now it's showing up right in the add-on list and battle log is letting me join a game.
Seems a bunch of people are getting this problem.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
...No? It's LAV/Helicopter/Tanks and infantry.

CoD's Sabotage/Oblieration is "infantry only" but that's because it's CoD.

Here the vehicles play an important role of protecting the bomb carrier or transporting them.

You haven't played it? It's probably the best new addition to the series.

Defuse is "Seach and Destroy" from Call of Duty but it's not grabbing me like S&D did in CoD4.



No way man... Infantry only in Sabo can be as good as the vehicle maps.

That's probably the one time Operation Locker was fun for me. Zig-zagging with the bomb across the map to avoid people chasing me all the way to C and arming it.
Still waiting for my PS4!

Thanks for the info, i pretty much only played Conquest on BF3 (And a bit of Conquest Domination and CTF)
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Ahh, I was wondering where you were at!
I ended up keeping my pre-order and went BF day 1... as unstable and crash heavy as it's been I've still had a shitload of fun. Need more of the old GAF crew to play with... randoms suck and none of them use their mic.

I'm there as soon as I find a system. I'll be looking with some haste this weekend, since I actually have some time off and there are a few stores around (out in the boonies) that might have them.
 
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