OdysseusVA
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How else is EA going to win Worst Company in America again?
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How else is EA going to win Worst Company in America again?
I would imagine they would have to push an update to allow us to play.
Where does it state on there that we have to wait? Or that we are just getting the regular version of the DLC and not the premium expansion pack?
Psychoward
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Nowhere do I see in that update a fix for the sound cutting out or chromatic aberration bug... great.
Joke's on you, most of the DLC was already made in advance.
They're all 'Premium Expansion Packs', that's just what these DLCs are called. You seem to have missed that part. :/
If you were to get it as soon as Premium gets it, it would have said as much. "As soon as available" clearly indicates when Regular Joe can purchase it, not Premium Joe. Otherwise they'd be liable to discount Premium to all those buying that for breaking the terms of that service agreement.
Shitty the player base gets divided already but at least you didn't pay extra for the game for this, or did you? (In that case have a word with your retailer I'd say, because you shouldn't have)
You're making a mountain out of a molehill with your interpretation of the word "premium." There aren't two versions of the expansion packs. There's one version of each pack that is released two weeks early for Premium members.
You're not "waiting" any extra period of time.
Really? Clearly?
I'm just going purely by the wording in the advertisement, no outside factors or anything else. If you are making a contract with someone, you put everything in writing, you do the same in advertising.
I'm not using any logical leaps to arrive at this conclusion, just purely reading what has been stated.
If that had been the case they would have clearly said two weeks after Premium members, or stated so in the fine print, which I looked for.
PoweredBySoy
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Good night sweet prince.
Eat a fat one, DICE. I'll wait.
I'm more excited for your goddamn patch anyways.
I too went on what's written in that IGN statement.
PR for pre-order/limited edition: "as soon as available".
PR for Premium: "you get all DLC 2 weeks before everyone else"
If these two statements doesn't make it clear premium trumps everything then I'm sorry you were deluded by something that wasn't there and have to "wait an extra 2 weeks" like every other non-premium player.
The digital deluxe edition includes the DLC for free as well, not the standard one though.
Yes, you are correct, but if that were the case they needed to make that incredibly clear on the purchase page for the base version of BF4.
For example, 'Receive China Rising as soon as its available*
*2 weeks after the initial Premium launch.'
When you are drawing up a legal contract at point of sale, you cannot leave information intentionally out like that.
I understand exactly where you are coming from and the logical leap you are making. That leap needed to be made clear on the pre-order page, not after outside context. That is why it is a breach of contract with myself.
BadlyCookedTurkey
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I bought the digital and I've got the China Rising maps listed.
2AM PST/11AM UTC
Vehicle whore.
BadlyCookedTurkey
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I thought that was the patch. Battlelolg says it's available.
Feels good don't it
"The game update will start to roll out at 1AM PST/10AM UTC Dec 3, followed by the actual China Rising content around 2AM PST/11AM UTC."
Battlelog lies.
RebornYeti
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Anyone can see the maps listed. I don't know how it works for PC and Playstation, but when I got my game, it had a code I needed to redeem to get access for China Rising. If you didn't get that, you don't get the maps (for free).
Darryl M R
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Sorry to hear that, did you manage to get any of the other silencers unlocked through a battlepack (I'm assuming they are all the same just different looks), I'm hoping to throw a silencer on my ace 23. I just unlocked it yesterday and HATED the gun. Then I unlocked a few attachment and I love it.
That bugged as shit silencer is my last unlock for the gun lol.
They are all the same yeah, but i like the chinese one -.- which is the default unlock that is bugged lol.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Shit's not letting me play right now. I got a few games in then crashed and can't log into battle log. Xbox one btw.
Also, wtf is up with "quick play conquest" taking me to TDM or some other random game.
Also, what DLC do you need for CTF? I'm premium and it says I need DLC for it.
Also, wtf is up with "quick play conquest" taking me to TDM or some other random game.
Also, what DLC do you need for CTF? I'm premium and it says I need DLC for it.
I told you this, dude.
They're going to give higher priority to premium players than people that pre-ordered and didn't give them more money.
I know and I understand where you guys are coming from. My argument rests solely upon the information that was provided to retailers and by EA itself.
When you are at point of sale, you can't rely on context provided elsewhere, you have to provide all relevant information. The information that was provided leads one to believe that you will get China Rising day one.
this sums it up.
Unconditional
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this stupid POS game. It's the only game on my PC that constantly crashes on launch due to "Nvidia Kernel" and directX crap. I can't even get the game to launch. Anyone fix this issue?
My PS4 retail copy of BF4 says on the front of the box:
"Includes Battlefield 4 China Rising Expansion Pack" and my copy has the sheet with the China Rising download code, even though I didn't preorder anything at all.
I did not buy Premium.
So what's the story, will I be able to play the China Rising maps on PS4 in a matter of hours / tomorrow, or what?
Between early access for premium members and the fact that Xbox One owners get the DLC maps first (they already have Second Assault), I'm really freaking confused!
"Includes Battlefield 4 China Rising Expansion Pack" and my copy has the sheet with the China Rising download code, even though I didn't preorder anything at all.
I did not buy Premium.
So what's the story, will I be able to play the China Rising maps on PS4 in a matter of hours / tomorrow, or what?
Between early access for premium members and the fact that Xbox One owners get the DLC maps first (they already have Second Assault), I'm really freaking confused!
You're not reading it right. It states that you get a free Premium expansion pack, which you are. Nothing there states you get it the same time as people who pay for a Premium membership.
Well, China Rising's maps have been added to the filter. As for China Rising itself: No patch yet.
Except for the part that I am granted a Premium Expansion pack and that it is ready to play as soon as it is available?
Again, legally, they cannot say one thing and use outside context to prove that incorrect. At point of sale, they are advertising a certain product, I am not reading it incorrectly you are just using outside information to justify the status quo.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
You're trying way too hard. It's quite clear what the packaging means AND what premium offers.
From my perspective, you guys are trying too hard to defend a corporation for using logical leaps to trick their consumers.
Again, I am just trying to argue the legality of the issue at point of sale. EA promised a certain product, but they aren't delivering that product. Just because the knowledge of premium exists, does not allow them to advertise something separately.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Except that they are. Premium just gets it early. China Rising is released later to everyone. What you bought was a game with a free access code to china rising when it's available, not when it's early.
If premium didn't even exist the expansion pack wouldn't be available tonight.
There is no legal issue at all in anything you're trying to bring up.
This is akin to a kid sticking his fingers in his ears yelling "nuh uh!"
It's a non issue man, give it up. There's far bigger problems with the game.
weekend_warrior
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After complaining about how bad the game is I have to admit it finally starting clicking around level 15. The weapons are a lot better when you start unlocking scopes and grips, and the engineer finally has enough to deal with tanks and helicopters. Recon has been my favorite (the RC helicopter is AWESOME), and getting close to unlocking the C4 for support class, which was my favorite class style in BC2.
CheDominik
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I don't really see the problem here, you will get china rising eventually for free just a bit later. I don't see how that is false advertising.
Speaking of china rising: Premium includes this, right? Don't know yet whether or not I should buy Premium or just the DLC for now. Bought it digitally, so no code for me
Speaking of china rising: Premium includes this, right? Don't know yet whether or not I should buy Premium or just the DLC for now. Bought it digitally, so no code for me
Maybe you aren't getting the point. We have certain consumer rights associated with point of sale and advertisement information. Everything about the sale must be in writing on the sale, that is why you the actors read off the fine print on the drug ads. Should they not be allowed to tell us those downsides and require us to figure that out on their own?
Using words like, "as soon as it is available," does not leave any room for interpretation. If China Rising is available tonight, then, according to the writing on the store page, it should be available for those who pre-ordered.
Not based on some arbitrary Premium requirement that requires outside context and quite the leap to reach.
Like I said earlier, this is the perfect example of what should be on the page, 'Receive China Rising as soon as its available*
*2 weeks after the initial Premium launch.'
I don't really see the problem here, you will get china rising eventually for free just a bit later. I don't see how that is false advertising.
Speaking of china rising: Premium includes this, right? Don't know yet whether or not I should buy Premium or just the DLC for now. Bought it digitally, so no code for me
Keep in mind I am not arguing in context to the Premium offers. I am arguing in context with what was sold to myself and everyone else on the pre-order page.
Steelyuhas
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I don't really see the problem here, you will get china rising eventually for free just a bit later. I don't see how that is false advertising.
Speaking of china rising: Premium includes this, right? Don't know yet whether or not I should buy Premium or just the DLC for now. Bought it digitally, so no code for me
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Stephen_drewz
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What's the best LMG? Your opinion of course.
Just started Support last night after getting a service star(100 kills) with each of the Assault Rifles. Now working my way through support. So far only used the U-100 and the M249. U-100 was far better IMO.
Just started Support last night after getting a service star(100 kills) with each of the Assault Rifles. Now working my way through support. So far only used the U-100 and the M249. U-100 was far better IMO.
Shaundakahl
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The server goes down! We were tearing some shit up, too.
I personally love the LSAT. I got a service star with it and after unlocking the night vision scope for it, I just go on killing sprees with it haha.
I got Premium today and the two Gold Battlepacks I got with it were filled with stuff for the MX4 and U-100 again -___- I dunno why but most of my Battle Pack unlocks are for those two guns and the AK-12.
I primarily run Support when I'm not trying to get unlocks and I'm not running another class situationally. I find the LSAT to be very strong in medium to long range encounters and the RPK excellent at slightly closer range to long range. Since you unlock the LSAT so early, I recommend picking it up and seeing how it feels to you. I used it exclusively until I unlocked the RPK.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/Eric WK/weapons/695790/xbox360/
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