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Battlefield 4 |OT| Prepare to Leave Beta... Nevermind
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ElzarTheBam
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Good point, I might make it my shotgun only map too.
Unknown One
Member
Probably, I feel that RPGs and Tanks should be rewarded with instant kills if they land a hit. It's rather hard and limited to hit a helicopter in a tank with it's limited viewing angles.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Im just about to buy the Xbox One version of this game.
Any AusGAF users have comments on how the servers are down under, is it worth it to buy this on Xbox One in Australia I see alot of my old mates in the US are absolutely loving it, but im stuck in Australia for the next few months so i need to know how the MP is here.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I just want my Battlefield 4 fix and im not gonna do it on PC just cuz i havent played M/KB in forever and i fear i will suck too much ass.
Any AusGAF users have comments on how the servers are down under, is it worth it to buy this on Xbox One in Australia I see alot of my old mates in the US are absolutely loving it, but im stuck in Australia for the next few months so i need to know how the MP is here.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I just want my Battlefield 4 fix and im not gonna do it on PC just cuz i havent played M/KB in forever and i fear i will suck too much ass.
Regret Truth
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WTF!?
I get this error more than half the time I try to join a server! Help!
I get this error more than half the time I try to join a server! Help!
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I hope not... >_>
Also, the double XP weekend this weekend - is it for everyone or just for premium members?
Premium exclusive event.
Nonsense.
The UMP-45 has been my favorite gun in Battlefield (hell, and in other games for that matter) since Bad Company 2. I just love it. Only a 25 round mag, but that .45 cal round packs a punch so you only need to land a few hits. It's super accurate too.
I run with an HD-33 sight, silencer, green laser, and stubby grip on mine and it's great.
Game is good. Depends on your connection of course, but for the most part things are really smooth on Australian servers (if that's what you're asking?)
AnotherNils
Member
I agree. I'm curious as to their reasoning on giving the transport chopper more health, though.
Unknown One
Member
I can understand why transport has more health. It's a flying coffin after all. The minigun is near useless.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Yup pretty much exactly what I was asking.
Just making sure the servers are stable and that there are actually enough players.
I dont want to be sitting in empty games over and over, 64 players is alot and i dont know if BF4 sold that well on XB1 in Australia.
Will purchase the game in exactly 1 hour and 30 minutes.
user8503492
Banned
I'll say it again, as I always do...Carbine as "all class" is beyond stupid.
Every class should have a pro/con..
Medic/Assault has the AR yet trades vehicle stopping power and/or repairing
Support has the LMG which should be godly in a non-mobile setting and C4 which is a vehicle stopper with risk associated to it.
Recon has the sniper rifle and assorted "eyes" and tactical equipment for insertion of troops, along with C4 and its risk associated uses.
Now the Engineer...it has the works in means of vehicle elimination and upkeep. Be it hard hitting rockets or Slams/Mines which work wonders. Now the downside of this class should be the PDW..but 99.999% of the player base has abandoned this weapon for the Carbine, and rightfully so.
Many Support players have even tossed aside the pro/cons of the LMG in favor of the All-Pro Carbine.
The Carbine is comparable to many of the AR's even surpassing some of them, so why not pack anti/pro vehicle abilities as well as be outfitted with an amazing gun selection?
Because...the game is a tucking boring clusterfuck of Carbine packing Engineers...every corner you turn in a vehicle or on foot is 9 Engineers with Carbines ready to smoke your ass or blow you up...
Picking and playing a class should come with penalties and pro's...a "best of both worlds" setting makes things stagnate and round after round of "which team has the most Engineers wins"
Should work like this..
Engineer- PDW/Shotgun (exactly like BF's Anti-Tank/Engineers weapon sets)
Medic/Assualt- All weapons accept Sniper Rifle (complete lack of vehicle ability balanced due to mastery of guns)
Support- LMG/Shotgun/PDW(Big powerfully guns close and far with C4/Clays/Mortars for explosives bonus)
Recon- Sniper Rifle/Carbine/PDW/DMR (Its the sniper class mixed with the Spec-Ops class)
Does this idea severely kick the Engineer class in the nuts when it comes to gun play?..FUCK YES! And it should..
BF4 is about large scale battles that are Vehicle-centric, hence you get the best tool set to use/destroy these vehicles, then you should get screwed some how.
When an Engineer isn't driving a vehicle, repairing a vehicle or eliminating a vehicle his main thought while facing a swarm of soldiers is "This isn't my specialty!"..not "Oh, I got my AK-5C...let me pick these guys off from 100 meters!"
Every class should have a pro/con..
Medic/Assault has the AR yet trades vehicle stopping power and/or repairing
Support has the LMG which should be godly in a non-mobile setting and C4 which is a vehicle stopper with risk associated to it.
Recon has the sniper rifle and assorted "eyes" and tactical equipment for insertion of troops, along with C4 and its risk associated uses.
Now the Engineer...it has the works in means of vehicle elimination and upkeep. Be it hard hitting rockets or Slams/Mines which work wonders. Now the downside of this class should be the PDW..but 99.999% of the player base has abandoned this weapon for the Carbine, and rightfully so.
Many Support players have even tossed aside the pro/cons of the LMG in favor of the All-Pro Carbine.
The Carbine is comparable to many of the AR's even surpassing some of them, so why not pack anti/pro vehicle abilities as well as be outfitted with an amazing gun selection?
Because...the game is a tucking boring clusterfuck of Carbine packing Engineers...every corner you turn in a vehicle or on foot is 9 Engineers with Carbines ready to smoke your ass or blow you up...
Picking and playing a class should come with penalties and pro's...a "best of both worlds" setting makes things stagnate and round after round of "which team has the most Engineers wins"
Should work like this..
Engineer- PDW/Shotgun (exactly like BF's Anti-Tank/Engineers weapon sets)
Medic/Assualt- All weapons accept Sniper Rifle (complete lack of vehicle ability balanced due to mastery of guns)
Support- LMG/Shotgun/PDW(Big powerfully guns close and far with C4/Clays/Mortars for explosives bonus)
Recon- Sniper Rifle/Carbine/PDW/DMR (Its the sniper class mixed with the Spec-Ops class)
Does this idea severely kick the Engineer class in the nuts when it comes to gun play?..FUCK YES! And it should..
BF4 is about large scale battles that are Vehicle-centric, hence you get the best tool set to use/destroy these vehicles, then you should get screwed some how.
When an Engineer isn't driving a vehicle, repairing a vehicle or eliminating a vehicle his main thought while facing a swarm of soldiers is "This isn't my specialty!"..not "Oh, I got my AK-5C...let me pick these guys off from 100 meters!"
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And if the engineer had PDW like they did in BF3 and everyone was using them... what would you be saying then?
Frankly, I don't disagree that Carbines shouldn't be all-class and that PDW's should be (like BF3. Oh hey! But--I'm biased toward using the FN P90 on all classes if need be while having it be my main gun on recon... so...), but that's not really the issue with the Carbine's.
Frankly, I don't disagree that Carbines shouldn't be all-class and that PDW's should be (like BF3. Oh hey! But--I'm biased toward using the FN P90 on all classes if need be while having it be my main gun on recon... so...), but that's not really the issue with the Carbine's.
Unknown One
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Carbines are too good to be an all kit weapon. Probably needs a nerf.
That's pretty obvious, but that doesn't really change my question: If everyone was still using them post nerf, what then? Change "Carbine" to "PDW, LMG, Sniper, DMR, Assault" whatever you want to pick for all-class.
Now, what?
Kane Zakharov
Banned
Yup, and the MTAR-21 is basically an all class assault rifle because of how they still didn't change the damage output on it.
Commander mode in this game is so incredibly boring. The only thing you manage to do as a commander in this game is to either snowball the match harder if your team is winning, or be a UAV spam bot if a match is even and there is a commander on the enemy team. It also does a poor job in explaining how some of the mechanics of commander mode work. For example, why does tagging someone as an HVT have a cooldown, and how long is the cooldown? Why can I seemingly only do it to a specific number of people? And the UI needs work too, instead of clicking on individual players on the map that aren't squad leaders, I have to scroll through the squads on order to find the person I want to give orders to so they can perhaps focus on an objective that is near them and can be handled, then again it doesn't matter all that much because squad leaders never accept orders anyway.
It also feels like the role of a commander makes the recon class less useful, why use a motion sensor/TUGS when your commander has a low cooldown UAV that can detect the enemy within a large radius and lasts for a good amount of time?
Unknown One
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It's to late to change any of that other than a nerf to the weapons. If the weapons were spread among Assault and PDW, people would cry about it. I doubt Dice has the balls to do that.
Something should be done in terms of Carbines though. I have literally no reason to not use it as an Engineer and Support.
Something should be done in terms of Carbines though. I have literally no reason to not use it as an Engineer and Support.
...Because C4
T-ugs/C4 combo?
Honestly, the bigger question I have with Commander is: Why does the Cruise Missile have a set limit (IIRC) over refills. As far as I can see, you have to use those VERY effectively (which isn't a bad thing) but if you're joining after someone leaves as a previous commander, you have NO Cruise Missiles to use. I guess it's to prevent rejoiners from abusing it, but damn if that isn't annoying.
Beacon/C4
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4x Scope, tac light and one chance to headshot them. Thats a real recon, do or die, no room for error.
fuck defensive perk, a fucking sniper rifle at 2 ft should kill you no matter where you are hit
^also cruise missiles don't have limits? Do they? I remember just spamming them after their very very long cool down but I don't play commander much.
I've come to the conclusion queue is broken in BF4 PC. I'm 4/4 on queue, yet I instantly load the game, and come back to a fail to connect to server message. So it's either the queue (the server hadn't a spot) or other 4 guys got the same error while they were trying to connect. I don't understand how this game went from: really bad > bad > playable > decently stable > bad > very bad.
Agreed with that.Nonsense.
The UMP-45 has been my favorite gun in Battlefield (hell, and in other games for that matter) since Bad Company 2. I just love it. Only a 25 round mag, but that .45 cal round packs a punch so you only need to land a few hits. It's super accurate too.
...Because C4.
That's missing the point of his question.
"Why would you run a spotting item when a commander is online?"
Because that "large radius" believe it or not... isn't that large. It's good if you cover A or B in Rush but it doesn't cover both. Same for Conquest. You can EMP/UAV a flag or an area between two, but it doesn't see both.
Whereas placing a T-ugs down will have a "UAV effect" show up for a flag/crate that the commander doesn't need to cover then. He can "push forward" in Rush or move to a different flag.
But let's turn that around:
I said it at launch and I'll say it again: With a Commander and T-ugs/etc. being able to spot you, why would you run a flash-suppressor/sound-suppressor when you're going to be found by a Commander/T-ugs (if you're running) 99% of the time?
"Because no one is Commander all the time." Yes, but that's missing the point of the question.
Never play Op Locker CQ? UAV covers damn near half the map. The point is spotting is so prevalent in this game that tugs/motion are not worth carrying as recon even without a commander. Beacon and C4 are way more useful in CQ/Rush/Oblit then TUGS.
^and because suppressor is cool! Nothing more bad ass than have a 40x ballistic scope and a suppressor on my sniper rifle so I can shoot dick all.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
I actually had no idea you had a set limit on how many cruise missiles to use, yet another thing that isn't explained very well/at all in commander mode. >.>
Edit: I think the TUGS/Motion sensor don't show the position of the enemy in real-time like the commander UAV does too.
Edit: I think the TUGS/Motion sensor don't show the position of the enemy in real-time like the commander UAV does too.
One of the only times I don't hate recon teammates is when they use a T-UGS around objectives I'm attacking or defending. Not even kidding. It's almost a completely guaranteed cap or defend when they do that. A beacon can be nice but outside of a complete squad wipe you can usually spawn on a teammate and get back into action fast enough. C4? Meh. T-UGS is way more useful.
edit: I'm talking about conquest or domination specifically. I don't play rush or obliteration.
First, why the fuck are you playing Operation Metro 1.5?
...I really need to get to bed and not debate this with you because you're not going to believe it, but here. I'll humor you:
Operation Metro 1.5 Last-Gen-Babby-mode:
UAV
EMP.
Other map(s):
To correct myself. You CAN cover both crates in Rush, but that's generally not going to happen if a commander is "fishing" around to find people.
EMP thrown in.
It's "large" but not as large as you want to make it to be. Operation Locker is the only exception to that rule (that I've seen playing Commander which I don't do often because THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIXED THE FUCKING SEAT ISSUES) and that's partially due to the map size (I'm going to assume Operation Metro is nearly similar but less an issue depending on if they moved flags in Conquest and definitely not as much an issue in Rush due to spacing) of Locker compared to the rest of the maps more than anything.
And as you can see: It doesn't cover the ENTIRE map, there's still "holes" that the T-ugs placements can fill from a recon helping the commander "cover" the map.
I'm not even sure it's a set limit, but there's times where the Cruise Missile option is greyed out and I chalk it up to that. I have no clue why it doesn't let me use it in modes that allow it (see: Conquest).
Finaaaally unlocked that ink blotch. Haven't been so frustrated at the game since I was rank 5 and getting donged on by literally everyone.
And now to unlock Blue Tiger. Are any shotguns better than the rest? I haven't used them in this game yet. Hope to blow through this assignment pretty quickly... I'm really not the kind of player that rushes in close if I can help it.
The on the positive side, I'll never touch a PDW again!
And now to unlock Blue Tiger. Are any shotguns better than the rest? I haven't used them in this game yet. Hope to blow through this assignment pretty quickly... I'm really not the kind of player that rushes in close if I can help it.
Just started to really play the MP the last two days and this is how I also feel. The engineer is the best allrounder. His ability to destroy vehicles is a big necessity. You have no chance against tanks without a rocket launcher.
I like to play medic in every shooter and I am really overthinking my decision of not picking the engineer as my class. Also doesn't help that it seems like the assault/medic playstyle isn't really that useful with fast respawns, long gadget swap times and the bad placement of the gadgets on the dpad.
BigJonsson
Member
rofl
what a comeback
Or the other team all quit
what a comeback
Or the other team all quit
the_log_ride
Member
My first time squadding up with GAF. GGs to all. Never had my bro-bar fill up so fast.
The Faceless Master
Member
EPIC 500 TICKET COMEBACK
I randomly ended up in a game with a couple GAFers while playing on my guest account. I was just messing around on Rogue Transmission until I realized that and figured I better smarten up and try to win lol.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/32/425539403021515584/981266169/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/32/425547377488132928/981266169/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/32/425553461573548864/981266169/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/32/425539403021515584/981266169/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/32/425547377488132928/981266169/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/32/425553461573548864/981266169/
They could make another commercial out of that historic match.
I notice my squadmate's tank is stuck on a railing, so I drive over and push him off, but then I get stuck in the same spot and he has to dislodge ME. Only in Battlefield!
ggs dudes.
I recognize your name.
*looks at my last post*
Yep. What are the odds of randomly getting in your game? Hilarious.
ElzarTheBam
Member
kriskrosbbk
Member
Yo, PC gamers,did you experience lag/rubberbanding on CQ 64 players and when did this get a fix for you ? Are you still experiencing it or its totally gone? Which maps if yes?
Its really bad situation on Lancang , Hainan and Golmud for us,the PS4 users ?
So how is the current state for you ,I am asking this just to understand if we can get a fix at all ?
PS. 100mbps fibre wired PS4,EUROPE
Its really bad situation on Lancang , Hainan and Golmud for us,the PS4 users ?
So how is the current state for you ,I am asking this just to understand if we can get a fix at all ?
PS. 100mbps fibre wired PS4,EUROPE
all shotguns are great at close range. buckshot is the best ammo type with any red dot sight, i prefer the coyote.
id say you cant go wrong with the 870, m10, hawk 12g, or QB9, but my favorite is to run medic with the m26 and a health pack.
Facism
Member
T-ugs is great. Half the time I'm on teams with people who have little to no game-sense, a commander that doesn't respond to UAV requests and squad-mates that would rather spawn on a capped flag rather than spawning on me whilst I'm capping a flag.
T-ugs allows me to control an area, depending on the cover and landscape. Granted i don't play recon like a loser sniper, I play assault recon with a carbine and c-4.
spawn beacons have their place, but not on my loadout.
T-ugs allows me to control an area, depending on the cover and landscape. Granted i don't play recon like a loser sniper, I play assault recon with a carbine and c-4.
spawn beacons have their place, but not on my loadout.
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