clarky
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Luipadre
Member
I saw this too, but i also saw a firestorm video and it was just as bad. Guy was autospotting and shooting the big red doritos
Avid Reading Horse
Member
I finally watched that video (and a response video he made to another video). I missed the 500 degree per second thing but yeah... the heuristics he seemed to be picking were very arbitrary. What's even wilder is that his demo video of his own gameplay was controller. Towards the end there's a throwaway line about how his tool will detect cheaters regardless of controller or m+k. Which on its face is a farce. If your tool doesn't flag the aim assist from console COD as unnatural, how does it propose to capture 'soft aim' which is the current Catgirl accusation.
Aside from that his explanations weren't particularly clear... the bit I was most confused by was his legs/torso/head ratio... The implication is that if you don't aim at legs enough you're a cheater. I'm pretty sure I've had rounds of say running around on COD4 vacant without aimint at someone's legs.
There is also a weird bit about how it wouldn't be fair to show the full Catgirl video in his tool or something because it was trained on COD data, but also it still proves Catgirl is cheating? And that he thought someone else was cheating but his tool 'cleared' them. So his tool isn't ready for prime time, it issues a fuzzy 'trust score' number, and yet it's also 100% reliable in flagging cheaters. It doesn't really add up.
Speaking of his COD4 gameplay... he really moves around like a bot. But, funnily enough, in terms of pure reaction speed he was actually faster than Catgirl by a frame or two. Though he was also spending a lot more time staring at a door/corner primed to shoot at someone who popped up.
He doesn't seem to know or understand the basics of m+k aim, let along the modern 'aim training' levels. The videos reference that there's a dedicated channel to his tool... so God help me, I might end up going further down this rabbit hole.
That bit was confusing to me as well. Though not so much as to what the CoS tool is doing... but more towards the actual alleged aimbot. The basic "point directly at the guy's head" aimbot would work just fine in BF6, certainly in the alleged cheating clips. You don't need a perfect aimbot. And if you wanted to deal with bullet drop and needing to lead targets you could just hardcode in some average values. This quick dev cycle for cheats thing also doesn't really apply when you have to assume they have access to BF Labs.
I don't know either. From the handcam footage I'd say no. But I haven't even gotten anyone to engage on whether the handcams were cheated as well. And then you can never disprove stuff like "well he toggles on a few times a game when he's going for his best clips". Could happen. But not really falsifiable, and thus not even a worthwhile accusation.
False accusations suck. Accusing people of cheating isn't inherently a virtue. If you can actually prove these things, then yes of course you're providing a service.
Dark Shinobi
Member
Could be different versions of Labs. All the Firestorm footage I've seen was from the Asian labs. Maybe this is referring to one of the other labs sessions that didn't break the NDA.
Luipadre
Member
Hope so
Avid Reading Horse
Member
And after I grabbed lunch this banger was waiting in my YouTube subs for me, coincidentally I've been subscribed to Struh from back when I grabbed Kovaak's and was then subsequently too lazy to put the time into aim training (this catgirl has brought me back and now I am finally dealing with my lack of smooth tracking skills):
The Supergirl bit at 37:17 is wild.
The Supergirl bit at 37:17 is wild.
Anthony Soprano
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Is there a summarized list of changes being implemented since beta?
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A.Romero
Member
They cut some mountain space where snipers used to go prone.
I guess we have to wait until release to understand the true impact.
FUBARx89
Member
Its slightly different nothing to get your knickers in a twist over.
Cunt.
Dying laughing. Didn't see I'd put cunt instead of cut. Thought that's abit harsh to call me a cunt for
but if it's just this below, I don't care. Hated that mountain.The mountains up near Russian base? Where tanks and AA would camp and be an absolute nightmare all match long if people didn't make an effort to kill them.
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
lolDying laughing. Didn't see I'd put cunt instead of cut. Thought that's abit harsh to call me a cunt for
The mountains up near Russian base? Where tanks and AA would camp and be an absolute nightmare all match long if people didn't make an effort to kill them.
clarky
willing to risk it all for BF6!!!! This a different side I've never seen from you bruv lol
bighugeguns
Gold Member
Unless they include proper suppression the game sales will disappoint EA and investors, it's not just a video game mechanic, it's good luck. Trust me.
Imtjnotu
Member
Doubt..... Suppression won't make or break this game
bighugeguns
Gold Member
You doubt, I know.
Imtjnotu
Member
Luipadre
Member
Its crossplay and crossprogression so yes
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
All on the same servers.
Your EA account is what matters not really the platform/store....and since your EA Account can log in on any platform even your progression will follow you.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
clarky
Gold Member
This is a labs map made from a small portion of the full version.
Edit: Portal not labs.
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Luipadre
Member
Isnt it just breakthrough? Spotting seems the same aswell.
clarky
Gold Member
Could be but it was definitely through portal at it was bots only from the brief snippet I watched.
Month till launch. I went ahead and bought this as I had some cash in my steam wallet going spare, I'm ready.
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It wasn't cut down, that dude doesn't know what he's talking about about. They moved some of the map layout into the spawn to prevent the spawn camping problems with that map but the actual size is largely the same as BF3.
clarky
Gold Member
They said they are addressing that before launch. I think this Asian build where all the leaks come from is a bit older.
The guns were ok in the beta until you kitted them out with all the attachments, then they all felt the same. Like you say hopefully they sort that out.
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Luipadre
Member
Looks gorgeous, but the fucking autospot is still ridiculous. Come on DICE fix this shit
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clarky
Gold Member
Should only spot (for yourself) if you are ads. Its a simple fix not sure what's taking so long(if they haven't implemented it already). If visibility is an issue then just make the players have a slight glow like they did before.
Its not rocket science.
Aren't some folks in labs here? Maybe they can shed some light on how the current build is.
clarky
Gold Member
What can we moan about now?
R6Rider
Gold Member
Just keep checking the Battlefield subreddit. They're never not complaining.
clarky
Gold Member
Like all subreddits. I swear, any game you like go to the reddit to kill some time and you'll come away questioning your own taste.
Painful. I nip there with my eyes closed to check out leaks every now and again.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
When the hell will they talk about single player?
Luipadre
Member
They focusing on the more important part, the multiplayer
INC
Member
clarky
Gold Member
For the 7 people who give a shit, im sure it will be soon
HeisenbergFX4
Member
The Call of Shame channel is not a great channel to go by as it seems that guy makes a lot of stuff up
That said it amazes me the amount of people who don't understand how modern aimbots work, well good aimbots anyhow
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Beta is back?
clarky
Gold Member
Labs unfortunately.
This means nothing. Liberation Peak has 6 flags, jets, and choppers. and its a cramped meatgrinder.
I need to see the overhead layout along with the flag placement before it can be fully judged.
clarky
Gold Member
I'm sure there will be something that you can moan about don't worry.
Edit: Here's the Layout.
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ABnormal
Member
Not only vertical recoil, but definitely more bullet spread on the distance during continued gun burst, to require skill in controlled fire and tap fire. Especially for the SMGs and assault rifles, which should not be able to kill at distance so fast, never. Classes must not be all powerful. They should have RELEVANT advantages on close or far combat depending of the class. And RELEVANT disavantages on the other side. It should not be possible to be on par, at distance, between SMGs and LMGs, as LMGs are at loss at close quarters, facing SMGs. Combat at distance, using SMGs and assault rifles, should be feasible only if there's skill in controlling fire and tapfiring. Not that any monkey that holds down the fire button can laser kill everyone at distance using SMGs and assault rifles.
INC
Member
Also blood, already seen this in some of the new gameplay
INC
Member
I think this 1 dude has worked out how to get into servers somehow through portal. Not in a legit way
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I'm sure there will be something that you can moan about don't worry.
Edit: Here's the Layout.
I've seen this before, but this doesn't show the map boundaries. I think most of that upper portion is out of bounds, which makes little sense.